Provided chargers at shops

Gumbo

10 x 22kW AC Chargers at Decathlon Ballymun

Bunch of new chargers going into the Decathlon Store in Ballymun. Confirmed to be free to use for customers.

It's 10 of them, all 22kW AC and free to use. Should be available as soon as Decathlon opens.

Easy go supplied but you must call into the store to get a fob from staff to activate the chargers.

Mod Note: This post was combined from a few posters, and then broken out into a thread for discussion.

Gumbo

unkel wrote: »

It's 10 of them, all 22kW AC and free to use. Should be available as soon as Decathlon opens. Is that today? Ikea is right next door and nothing stopping you to charge at Decathlon if you're vistiting Ikea for a few hours :-)

IKEA deffo opened today, not too sure about Decathlon though.

AndyBoBandy

Gumbo wrote: »

IKEA deffo opened today, not too sure about Decathlon though.

I saw a post on Facebook saying that Decathlon are opening soon, but looking at pictures of the queues at Ikea, will be giving the place a miss for a while...

..at least a year or 2, or whenever a vaccine is discovered.

Sheep Shagger

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

I saw a post on Facebook saying that Decathlon are opening soon, but looking at pictures of the queues at Ikea, will be giving the place a miss for a while...

..at least a year or 2, or whenever a vaccine is discovered.

Store is opening now, will be waiting till the excitement dies down..

9 chargers by the looks and as of right now, nobody using them. Think I read you have time go in side to get a fob to use, can anyone confirm?

Felexicon

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

Store is opening now, will be waiting till the excitement dies down..

9 chargers by the looks and as of right now, nobody using them. Think I read you have time go in side to get a fob to use, can anyone confirm?

10 charge points at the front of the store.

You have to call in to the shop to get a fob to start charging.

Krusty_Clown

Felexicon wrote: »

10 charge points at the front of the store.

You have to call in to the shop to get a fob to start charging.

They're all listed on the EasyGo app as free of charge. Can't see why/how you'd need to go into the store for a fob? Can't you just use your EasyGo fob or the app and charge away?

Felexicon

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

They're all listed on the EasyGo app as free of charge. Can't see why/how you'd need to go into the store for a fob? Can't you just use your EasyGo fob or the app and charge away?

No. They can only be started by the fobs provided in store

AndyBoBandy

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

They're all listed on the EasyGo app as free of charge. Can't see why/how you'd need to go into the store for a fob? Can't you just use your EasyGo fob or the app and charge away?

I would assume Decathlon don’t want folks just turning up to charge without at least visiting the store that had paid for their installation as well as the electricity that will run them.. otherwise they would just be a free for all for locals and Ikea customers.

I would t be surprised if you’d have to leave a few € deposit for a fob as well so as to ensure they are returned.

ted1

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

Can't see why/how you'd need to go into the store for a

They are being provided free for customers, as opposed to free loaders

slave1

Seems perfectly acceptable, along the lines of validated parking, purchases of say, €10+, free charging

AndyBoBandy

What would be annoying though (most likely only in the short to medium term), would be having to queue up for 20 minutes just to get into the store to get a fob, only to start the charge, and then probably only need another 10-15 minutes actually in the store to buy what you need! (I'd assume you wouldn't need to queue back up again to get back in after leaving with a fob to start the charge).

Would be interested to hear from someone that's been and charged on how it all works..

Gumbo

Mod Note: Sorry for any confusion caused, included a bit too much discussion when trying to merge posts. Mea culpa

Black_Knight

Why does this shop need charge points? Would one realistically spend 30+ minutes in there? Supermarkets barely make sense (a typical shop for me would be ~20 minutes). Being free, and not needing a fob is the only reason i'd use them. Covid adding to my shopping time also makes them somewhat worth it.

As mentioned, you need to get a fob from the shop to start charge. Most likely wouldn't bother with the hassle given the length of shop you'd have.

IKEA on the other hand, there's a place that both sides should benefit from having a bank of charge points.

liamog

The Decathlon in Ballymun is a Sports Hub rather than just a store.

The Ballymun store will be a “sports hub”, with more than 4,000sq m of retail space, a large external sports area, including a playground, fitness machines, a football pitch, rollerblading area, bike circuit and space for the store to partner with other sports providers to offer classes in yoga or zumba.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/retail-and-services/decathlon-to-open-new-dublin-store-on-saturday-1.4273828?fbclid=IwAR2_I2U-xLqrBObqAS0fnZpHzL2RGh_PSIrWu7UaJgM4A9HkmTPpOaSxLuM

shanec1928

have you ever been to decathlon before? its very easy to spend half an hour there at a minimum.

a lot of decathlon stores are normally like the above mentioned "hub"

Black_Knight

Never been no. I googled it and briefly read "sports store". It did look rather big in the picture though.

Fair enough. That's pretty damn progressive of them so. Well done.

AndyBoBandy

If your parked outside getting free kWh, you'd be inclined to spend longer in store, thus spending more...

Sound logic on the part of the retailer.

zg3409

Details and photos on the plugshare app. Someone used them last Saturday and checked in on plugshare app.

Apparently IKEA is planning chargers with the help of easygo but still ongoing and no actual work started.

I agree in terms of 30 minutes is not really much of a time to charge. IKEA in other counties have multiple 50+ kW chargers. At least with this many chargers you should get one free. I would prefer them where you can get a proper meal or the likes of a shopping centre with cinema. It really needs 1+ hour visit to be worth my while. IKEA meets that need if you are shopping for a new built house, but I typically spend less than an hour there (including cheap food with shopping).

The fob from customer service is because of freeloaders and IKEA is next door and has zero chargers.

AndyBoBandy

zg3409 wrote: »

Someone used them last Saturday and checked in on plugshare app.

checks plugshare, see's 3 check in's from user: zg3409

:pac:

oinkely

You could spend hours in a decathlon store no problem if you are any way interested in sport! They are a firm favourite when we travel to france on the ferry.

I wouldn't begrudge Decathlon control of their chargers and how they implement access is entirely up to them. I'll be visiting in my leaf whenever it quietens down there, however i would not normally take the leaf as it is just on the limit of the range for the return journey, uncomfortably so! However, if I can get a charge while there I'll save the emissions and take the leaf.

Seriously looking forward to getting a walk around the shop.

Black_Knight

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

If your parked outside getting free kWh, you'd be inclined to spend longer in store, thus spending more...

Sound logic on the part of the retailer.

For grocery shopping i'm not gonna spend an extra half hour shopping to save 18cent. Fair enough if this place has activities etc you can busy yourself/kids with, you might get parents hanging on a bit longer "offsetting" their charging against a coffee. :rolleyes:
IKEA would be another one - I've driven a long way, I need charge, I shall wander for 2-3 hours.

I'd question how busy some of the supervalu slow chargers that ESB put in will be once fees come in.

Gumbo

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

If your parked outside getting free kWh, you'd be inclined to spend longer in store, thus spending more...

Sound logic on the part of the retailer.

This is it. It’s a relative small cost for the retailer to give you some power. You spend with them. And in tour mind you’ll say to yourself the next time, instead of hitting Charlestown I’ll go to Decathlon as they have chargers.

Plus, maybe, their electric costs can be offset against returns etc

Kramer

Decathlon diesel van & a UK reg PHEV.

Royale with Cheese

Call me lazy as fúck but I just wouldn't be arsed going in and asking for a fob and then going back out to the car once I'm there. It's not like you'll be there all day.

slave1

Depends on the car, Leaf with 3.3 charger then not worth it, Zoe or Dual Charge Tesla then worth it

liamog

Even an 11kW charging car would still give you about 100km of range for free in the 90mins you are there doing a sporting activity.

Gumbo

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

Call me lazy as fúck but I just wouldn't be arsed going in and asking for a fob and then going back out to the car once I'm there. It's not like you'll be there all day.

Kinda agree.
If I was to be in there for an hour, I’d get 22 kWh which would be good for about 100km.

unkel

Get the fob, start the charge, go to Ikea next door, do your shop there and have something to eat, come back to a car that has just taken in 60-70kWh

Gumbo

In Decathlon now.
Pulled up and sparked in EV bay.

Member of staff came over and swiped the fob to start the charge.

Proceeded to que up.
Took 8 mins to get in.

KCross

Gumbo wrote: »

In Decathlon now.
Pulled up and sparked in EV bay.

Member of staff came over and swiped the fob to start the charge.

I presume you got lucky with that?
Normal procedure would be to go into the shop to get them to come out with the fob? Bit of a pain if thats how its going to work.

AndyBoBandy

It'd be great if they did come out to you with the fob (particularly while there's queues to get in).

Seems to have made sense putting the EV parking lot right outside the store in full view of staff.

liamog

Just the right place to catch you walking exercising your way to Ikea

Gumbo

KCross wrote: »

I presume you got lucky with that?
Normal procedure would be to go into the shop to get them to come out with the fob? Bit of a pain if thats how its going to work.

I’d say normal procedure once the shop is up and running as normal without C19 restrictions. But with the ques outside etc they have staff Permanently present.

He also ran over and activated a 2017 Leaf while I was in the que.
there was also a 201 M3 charging, one of theism Merc B things and an outlander.

unkel

Charging at Decathlon now @23kW. 5 double chargers, had to get Easygo fob inside. Tried my own Easygo fob, but didn't work. Queue to get into shop less than 10 mins. Massive queue at checkout though! Just had a look, now in unreal IKEA queue as I've been tasked to pick up a few specific things there. About 300 people ahead of me though :eek:

Gumbo

^^^

I was longer queuing to pay than I was to get in
Nice bank of chargers alright and 22kw charging is the icing on the cake.

slave1

unkel wrote: »

Charging at Decathlon now @23kW. 5 double chargers, had to get Easygo fob inside. Tried my own Easygo fob, but didn't work. Queue to get into shop less than 10 mins. Massive queue at checkout though! Just had a look, now in unreal IKEA queue as I've been tasked to pick up a few specific things there. About 300 people ahead of me though :eek:

There are plenty of cheap RDIF copiers out there and then you can just write to your own fob to save you the hassle of going in store EDIT with store's permission
I used to have the software to do this on my phone but it seems to have been lost as I upgraded recently.

This post in no way condones illegal or immoral copying of fobs to circumnavigate externalities

liamog

slave1 wrote: »

There are plenty of cheap RDIF copiers out there and then you can just write to your own fob to save you the hassle of going in store.
I used to have the software to do this on my phone but it seems to have been lost as I upgraded recently, used it to copy Nintendo Amibo's

Maybe don't do that, and instead respect the wishes of the store owner.

Marcusm

unkel wrote: »

Get the fob, start the charge, go to Ikea next door, do your shop there and have something to eat, come back to a car that has just taken in 60-70kWh

Expect to have been clamped for walking off the site!

Calahonda52

slave1 wrote: »

There are plenty of cheap RDIF copiers out there and then you can just write to your own fob to save you the hassle of going in store.
I used to have the software to do this on my phone but it seems to have been lost as I upgraded recently, used it to copy Nintendo Amibo's

As a moderator on this site, where is the integrity in that suggestion?
Is it not fraud?

unkel

Came back to the car 95% charged, it had taken on 59kWh

More than enough to pay for my fuel for the return trip, for the tolls and for the portion of meatballs I had in Ikea

slave1

slave1 wrote: »

There are plenty of cheap RDIF copiers out there and then you can just write to your own fob to save you the hassle of going in store EDIT with store's permission
I used to have the software to do this on my phone but it seems to have been lost as I upgraded recently.

This post in no way condones illegal or immoral copying of fobs to circumnavigate externalities

Calahonda52 wrote: »

As a moderator on this site, where is the integrity in that suggestion?
Is it not fraud?

Being a moderator has nothing to do with my personal posts.
If you are going to Decathlon and don't want the hassle of waiting in a long queue to get the fob then this in a potential option - ask in store or do not do it, some mad queues out there at the minute so could be there quite some time.
Alluded to below...

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

What would be annoying though (most likely only in the short to medium term), would be having to queue up for 20 minutes just to get into the store to get a fob, only to start the charge, and then probably only need another 10-15 minutes actually in the store to buy what you need! (I'd assume you wouldn't need to queue back up again to get back in after leaving with a fob to start the charge)..

Life is about avoiding hassle, like copying the ESB card onto a fob so I don't have to flute around looking for a card when charging up

liamog

slave1 wrote: »

Life is about avoiding hassle, like copying the ESB card onto a fob so I don't have to flute around looking for a card when charging up

Copying your own eCars fob for convenience is ok, duplicating a stores fob which was implemented to ensure only customers use the chargers is unacceptable. I don't think it's illegal, but I'm pretty sure Decathlon would not approve of anybody who does so.

The chargers are provided by EasyGo, so it's clearly a choice the store has made, and a person would be actively abusing that.

Marcusm

unkel wrote: »

Came back to the car 95% charged, it had taken on 59kWh

More than enough to pay for my fuel for the return trip, for the tolls and for the portion of meatballs I had in Ikea

Poor Decathlon subsidising the government (Westlink) and Ikea!

I used to love Decathlon in London. Like a warehouse full of sports things that you’d almost dream didn’t exist.

slave1

Just to be 100% in my previous posts, I am in no way condoning the illegal or immoral copying of a stores fob without their permission, that is in my previous post but maybe not clear to posters.
End of.
Back on topic.....

unkel

I just walked straight to the door, asked the security guy about charging. He told me to go to the customer service desk just inside the doors to get a fob. There were people queuing there too, but I asked straight away for a dongle and got one 2 seconds later. Went back to car, started charge and then queued to go into the shop

Rotary939

Gumbo wrote: »

I’d say normal procedure once the shop is up and running as normal without C19 restrictions. But with the ques outside etc they have staff Permanently present.

He also ran over and activated a 2017 Leaf while I was in the que.
there was also a 201 M3 charging, one of theism Merc B things and an outlander.

The M3 was me. Skipped the queue to get a fob from the returns counter and was told they'd pop out. Waited 10 mins and no sign, went back in and was given the fob. Then queued as normal to get back in, store was nuts, no regard for distancing once inside. Returning everything I got as sizes all over the place lol . And yes, I gave the fob back

Gumbo

Rotary939 wrote: »

The M3 was me. Skipped the queue to get a fob from the returns counter and was told they'd pop out. Waited 10 mins and no sign, went back in and was given the fob. Then queued as normal to get back in, store was nuts, no regard for distancing once inside. Returning everything I got as sizes all over the place lol . And yes, I gave the fob back

I was wondering as I seen you plugged in when I got there.
Then I seen you at your car.
Then I seen the car still there.

I just pulled up and the fella ran over. He must have been in the look out after you’d just been in with them.

Wasn’t you towing a trailer on the M2 this evening was it?

Sheep Shagger

Hope the Facebook post isn't true and that people are actually returning the fobs after use and that they are not down to the last few.

Gumbo

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

Hope the Facebook post isn't true and that people are actually returning the fobs after use and that they are not down to the last few.

Didn’t see anything mentioned about dons on their page. What happening?

Black_Knight

Gumbo wrote: »

Didn’t see anything mentioned about dons on their page. What happening?

They had 22 fobs when they opened, they now only have 2 because people are not returning them. Shameful stuff. This is why people can't have free things. They just abuse it until the courtesy has to be removed.

IEVOA facebook mentioned it in a comment around how to charge there.

Felexicon

Black_Knight wrote: »

They had 22 fobs when they opened, they now only have 2 because people are not returning them. Shameful stuff. This is why people can't have free things. They just abuse it until the courtesy has to be removed.

IEVOA facebook mentioned it in a comment around how to charge there.

They didn't have 22