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Truthvader

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Clumsy?

As clumsy as calling a woman a 'slug'?

Don't you lecture me.

Angus! It is you.

FrancieBrady

Elmo wrote: »

Labour will never enter government with Sinn Fein.

Anything can happen now the war is over.

Topgear on Dave

Not really. I think SF made great hay focusing on the Labour vote the last time they were in government.

They're not exactly on speaking terms in their social media twitter accounts anyway.

RandomViewer

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Yiz shinners are on the wind up goodo today.
A bit like Man u fans laying into Liverpool fans, this week.
But at the end of the, season, Liverpool are champs and Man u are another year without a Premier league.
Keep it up lads, you will eventually win one, like Liverpool this year, could be thirty years or so, who knows.

At the outside 2022 when Mehole won't hand over power to HeathervHumphreys ( highly likely) more likely budget night when the Greens ask for too much

maccored

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Yiz shinners are on the wind up goodo today.
A bit like Man u fans laying into Liverpool fans, this week.
But at the end of the, season, Liverpool are champs and Man u are another year without a Premier league.
Keep it up lads, you will eventually win one, like Liverpool this year, could be thirty years or so, who knows.

SF are exactly where they want to be - the lone opposition party of any strength, in the Dail

RandomViewer

Truthvader wrote: »

Angus! It is you.

Thought he was from Monaghan?

StackSteevens

RandomViewer wrote: »

They are pretty good at doing their homework, expect Meholes banking irregularities to become centre stage,

It's been flogged to death years ago. I well remember Vincent Browne skewering MM about it on his unmisable TV show, a decade or more ago. So it's about as interesting as last year's share prices.

But it'll provide some entertainment for the amnesiacs and the slack-jawed while MM gets on with running the country.

Water John

Mary Lou's first focus is to be seen as the spokesperson for all the opposition TDs.
SF want to swallow both LB and the Soc Dems. AK certainly put down a marker for her in his Dail speech, which was excellent and I hope a more mature AK.

Some have been saying that at some stage the Greens may pull out after 2 years. But 9 Inds voted for the Govn't, so if the Greens decided to leave at that point, then the Govn't would continue.

LawBoy2018

The FF emergency meeting tonight re Calleary's snub is interesting. I'd imagine he'll calm down the concerned councillors though and swallow his pride. What's the alternative? Any other mode of action would be self-destructive.

FrancieBrady

LawBoy2018 wrote: »

The FF emergency meeting tonight re Calleary's snub is interesting. I'd imagine he'll calm down the concerned councillors though and swallow his pride. What's the alternative? Any other mode of action would be self-destructive.

Somebody was on Brendan O'Connor this AM saying the anger was visceral at the convention centre yesterday over the appointments.

Still good old fashioned factional politics even with all the happy clappy PR

gormdubhgorm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Why is it idiotic?

They have come together because that is the only way they can stay in power.

It is more in the national interest. Other alternatives were not viable for various reasons. Leo was ready to go into opposition and take a back seat. But sure, like Kevin Heffernan calling Jimmy Keaveney back in from the wilderness - Leo answered the call when he was required.

FrancieBrady

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Somebody was on Brendan O'Connor this AM saying the anger was visceral at the convention centre yesterday over the appointments.

Still good old fashioned factional politics even with all the happy clappy PR

Source?

Water John

The West have two seats at the Cabinet, Calleary and Naughton. They just don't have votes but the Cabinet never works on a vote, always consensus.

FrancieBrady

Deleted User wrote: »

Source?

Listen back to the show on the player...political commentator...can't think of his name now.

James Brown

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

It is more in the national interest. Other alternatives were not viable for various reasons. Leo was ready to go into opposition and take a back seat. But sure, like Kevin Heffernan calling Jimmy Keaveney back in from the wilderness - Leo answered the call when he was required.

That's one way to spin it.
You could also say he was in a huff took his ball and went home, before the dust settled and MM lured him out for one last hurrah.
Can't see Leo sticking politics for another 5 year.

Finty Lemon

The Change Alliance- what could have been

Taoiseach Mary Lou McDonald
Tanaiste and Public Exp. Alan Kelly
Finance Pearse Doherty
Health Louise O Reilly
Education Aodhan O Riordain
Climate Action + Transport Richard Boyd Barrett
Foreign Affairs/ Brexit David Cullinane
Children Equality Integration Roisin Shortall
Agriculture and Marine Matt Carthy
Justice Maurice Quinlivan
Social Protection Catherine Murphy
Housing and local Govt Eoin O Broin
Higher Education and Science Peader Toibin
Culture and Tourism Holly Cairns
Land Use Biodiversity Michael Fitzmaurice
Chief Whip Aengus O Snodaigh

Truthvader

Finty Lemon wrote: »

The Change Alliance- what could have been

Taoiseach Mary Lou McDonald
Tanaiste and Public Exp. Alan Kelly
Finance Pearse Doherty
Health Louise O Reilly
Education Aodhan O Riordain
Climate Action + Transport Richard Boyd Barrett
Foreign Affairs/ Brexit David Cullinane
Children Equality Integration Roisin Shortall
Agriculture and Marine Matt Carthy
Justice Maurice Quinlivan
Social Protection Catherine Murphy
Housing and local Govt Eoin O Broin
Higher Education and Science Peader Toibin
Culture and Tourism Holly Cairns
Land Use Biodiversity Michael Fitzmaurice
Chief Whip Aengus O Snodaigh

OMG

gormdubhgorm

Bowie wrote: »

That's one way to spin it.
You could also say he was in a huff took his ball and went home, before the dust settled and MM lured him out for one last hurrah.
Can't see Loe sticking politics for another 5 year.

You are probably right on Leo's time left seems very content with himself. Has achieved all he has wanted. Plus he started politics young can't be easy, must be non stop.

ExMachina1000

Our minister for children choice is as strange a choice as the last one.

JohnnyFlash

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Our minister for children choice is as strange a choice as the last one.

Why?

Loafing Oaf

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

It is more in the national interest. Other alternatives were not viable for various reasons. Leo was ready to go into opposition and take a back seat. But sure, like Kevin Heffernan calling Jimmy Keaveney back in from the wilderness - Leo answered the call when he was required.

The 'rebuilding in opposition' stuff was just posturing; Leo knew FG would be going into government with FF from the day of the election count, or at the latest from when Martin 'clarified' his position on coalition with SF

almostover

Finty Lemon wrote: »

The Change Alliance- what could have been

Taoiseach Mary Lou McDonald
Tanaiste and Public Exp. Alan Kelly
Finance Pearse Doherty
Health Louise O Reilly
Education Aodhan O Riordain
Climate Action + Transport Richard Boyd Barrett
Foreign Affairs/ Brexit David Cullinane
Children Equality Integration Roisin Shortall
Agriculture and Marine Matt Carthy
Justice Maurice Quinlivan
Social Protection Catherine Murphy
Housing and local Govt Eoin O Broin
Higher Education and Science Peader Toibin
Culture and Tourism Holly Cairns
Land Use Biodiversity Michael Fitzmaurice
Chief Whip Aengus O Snodaigh

The day an SF TD is minister for justice will be a sad, miserable day for our republic

James Brown

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

You are probably right on Leo's time left seems very content with himself. Has achieved all he has wanted. Plus he started politics young can't be easy, must be non stop.

He's been there done that. He's not interested in being a public representative. He phoned it in for much of his career. Its handy how hes in it for stability and that but if he drops out that's cool too.

James Brown

almostover wrote: »

The day an SF TD is minister for justice will be a sad, miserable day for our republic

They might cover for the rebel alliance should darth Vader be targetted

Truthvader

almostover wrote: »

The day an SF TD is minister for justice will be a sad, miserable day for our republic

Particularly one who is the brother of an IRA terrorist who helped Pearse McAculey escape from jail. Pearse of course went on to murder Garda Gerry McCabe. As you might expect given the Special Criminal Court has impacted so directly on close family friends and Sinn Fein heroes this particular fantasy Minister for Justice will be anxious to abolish it first. Can only speculate on the atmosphere as the new Minister sits down with the Garda Commissioner.

Either Sinn Feiners don't actually know who their own people are or they have some kind of medical issue that allows them to make such a suggestion

FrancieBrady

Bowie wrote: »

He's been there done that. He's not interested in being a public representative. He phoned it in for much of his career. Its handy how hes in it for stability and that but if he drops out that's cool too.

At the end of the day he delivered FG's worst election ever.

Truthvader

FrancieBrady wrote: »

At the end of the day he delivered FG's worst election ever.

but their best government. Strange old world Angus

Finty Lemon

Truthvader wrote: »

Particularly one who is the brother of an IRA terrorist who helped Pearse McAculey escape from jail. Pearse of course went on to murder Garda Gerry McCabe. As you might expect given the Special Criminal Court has impacted so directly on close family friends and Sinn Fein heroes this particular fantasy Minister for Justice will be anxious to abolish it first. Can only speculate on the atmosphere as the new Minister sits down with the Garda Commissioner.

Either Sinn Feiners don't actually know who their own people are or they have some kind of medical issue that allows them to make such a suggestion

11,000 people in Limerick city would not agree with you

Truthvader

Finty Lemon wrote: »

11,000 people in Limerick city would not agree with you

So proud

James Brown

FrancieBrady wrote: »

At the end of the day he delivered FG's worst election ever.

Took over Kenny's mantle of breaking records in homelessness made the housing crisis worse and the hospital trolleys too. Not to be sniffed at.