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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Truthvader wrote: »
    He didnt get a pass . He was fined, put off the road and faces the public humiliation ongoing now. Unlike Yourself and the fellow SinnFein IRA travellers who not only want a pass but glory and celebrate your deliberate murder campaign

    Tis the way we do thinks here truth.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭efanton


    Cal4567 wrote: »
    Think this will blow over. Guess the Indo knew about this a long time ago, but no better time to throw it out there than to celebrate the passing for the first week for FF being back at the helm.

    If that's what's a week's like for Micheal Martin, the poor man will be on the sauce by Christmas. My FF friends tell me that this has been brewing for the last 2 years with noises from many quarters wanting to ditch the previous agreement with FG. If you'd be critical of that and now once your party got the keys to the kingdom (well, part of them) you'd probably be mighty fed up if you or your area hasn't landed one of the top jobs.


    They obviously did know about it.
    Which only confirms that that paper has an agenda of its own.
    Why did they not report it before the government was formed?

    As for this government its obvious that it will not last 5 years.
    We are not seeing the opposition trying to rip the government apart at the moment, its all happening from within.
    We have gone from proposal, to marriage to pending divorce proceedings in a matter of weeks before a honeymoon could even take place. Is obvious that this government is not going to last.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Truthvader


    Ellis and Ferris both faced the penalty for their crimes committed during a conflict/war.

    But you didn't answer the question suprisingly enough.

    Is this how you propose running the country...if somebody is found to have done something wrong, you simply point at somebody else to excuse them or to give them a pass from scrutiny or account?

    Again he didnt get a pass - and no-one is celebrating.

    Plus there was no war. One of thr reasons we know this is the whining and squealing from Sinn Fein about "shoot to kill" policies when the Brits shot back


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    efanton wrote: »
    They obviously did know about it.
    Which only confirms that that paper has an agenda of its own.
    Why did they not report it before the government was formed?

    As for this government its obvious that it will not last 5 years.
    We are not seeing the opposition trying to rip the government apart at the moment, its all happening from within.
    We have gone from proposal, to marriage to pending divorce proceedings in a matter of weeks before a honeymoon could even take place. Is obvious that this government is not going to last.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Truthvader wrote: »
    Again he didnt get a pass - and no-one is celebrating.

    Plus there was no war. One of thr reasons we know this is the whining and squealing from Sinn Fein about "shoot to kill" policies when the Brits shot back

    Cowan driving drunk wasn't part of FF's campaign so unlikely it would be celebrated.
    The fact you want to shut down any discussion on it is a poor attempt at censorship.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Bowie wrote: »
    That's drunk right?

    Unless you are in the Healy-Rae Party . :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 69,249 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Truthvader wrote: »
    Again he didnt get a pass - and no-one is celebrating.

    Plus there was no war. One of thr reasons we know this is the whining and squealing from Sinn Fein about "shoot to kill" policies when the Brits shot back

    You are attempting to give him a 'pass' by pointing over there at somebody else.
    He is being scrutinised at the moment because this affair was hidden from his leader (allegedly).
    Unless you are saying it is ok for a senior minister to drink drive aas long as he serves his time/pays his penalty?

    Is that what you are saying?


  • Registered Users Posts: 56,486 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Bowie wrote: »
    That's drunk right?

    Not necessarily.

    Drunk is an ambiguous term when applying it to every situation.

    Hence why he was not convicted of “drunk driving.”


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Truthvader wrote: »
    FFS all this po faced puritanical virtue signalling. Cowan barely over the limit, michelle ONeill travelling to Dublin, mary Lou traipsing around Belfast, measuring who was where at a funeral. All bollockology of no relevance to anything

    Ah, now. This lockdown has had a peculiar affect on some. Don’t be a spoilsport.


  • Registered Users Posts: 56,486 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Bowie wrote: »
    Nobody ever was so.

    There have been plenty drunk behind the wheel. Plenty absolutely pissed..

    And plenty over the legal limit.

    They don’t always mean the same thing..

    Simple: you can be over the limit and not pissed or drunk..

    Look at those that get caught many hours after their last drink. The next morning type examples..

    Anyway, regardless, he should be sacked

    The breath test is to test for alcohol levels. It’s not a drunk test.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    walshb wrote: »
    Not necessarily.

    Drunk is an ambiguous term when applying it to every situation.

    Hence why he was not convicted of “drunk driving.”

    Nobody ever was so.

    More interested in the likely event that it was kept quiet, put in a drawer somewhere, until now. When Clare Daiy was harangued for nothing.
    Troubling smell of bias from the media.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,540 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    The optics of Cowen having a ministry over Calleary looking even more questionable now.

    A lot of unrest in the FF ranks. That O'Callaghan fella is positively seething. Miriam will remember that next time she has Micheál in front of her.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,540 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    Bowie wrote: »
    Nobody ever was so.

    More interested in the likely event that it was kept quiet, put in a drawer somewhere, until now. When Clare Daiy was harangued for nothing.
    Troubling smell of bias from the media.

    Different strokes for different folks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭christy c


    As someone said in the other thread, it was probably known about and filed in the "wait till he's a minister drawer". Had that been reported at the time I'd say it would hardly have raised an eyebrow.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Truthvader


    McMurphy wrote: »
    Tis the way we do thinks here

    Agree 100% The Michael Collins FG lovefest fudge has gone on too long. Should have binned both portraits and stuck up Van Morrison or Seamus Heany


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Truthvader


    TheCitizen wrote: »
    A lot of unrest in the FF ranks. That O'Callaghan fella is positively seething. Miriam will remember that next time she has Micheál in front of her.

    Fkuc me me me O'Callaghan


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Truthvader


    You are attempting to give him a 'pass' by pointing over there at somebody else.
    He is being scrutinised at the moment because this affair was hidden from his leader (allegedly).
    Unless you are saying it is ok for a senior minister to drink drive aas long as he serves his time/pays his penalty?

    Is that what you are saying?

    If you want to lnow what I am saying; read my posts


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Ah, now. This lockdown has had a peculiar affect on some. Don’t be a spoilsport.

    Hasn't it.

    Suddenly many people are ok with the Healy-Rae it's ok to drive over the limit school of motoring safety.

    And the it's ok for a TD to break the law Michael Lowry school of ethics in political life.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,540 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    Truthvader wrote: »
    Fkuc me me me O'Callaghan

    What's that?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,540 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    Truthvader wrote: »

    Agree 100% The Michael Collins FG lovefest fudge has gone on too long. Should have binned both portraits and stuck up Van Morrison or Seamus Heany

    Listen to Eoghan Harris here.


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    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Hasn't it.

    Suddenly many people are ok with the Healy-Rae it's ok to drive over the limit school of motoring safety.

    And the it's ok for a TD to break the law Michael Lowry school of ethics in political life.

    Said TD took his punishment. Time to move on. Nothing new to see here.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    Said TD took his punishment. Time to move on. Nothing new to see here.

    Haha he needs to be sacked immediately. A nation of ****ing gangsters who do what they like running us


  • Registered Users Posts: 69,249 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Said TD took his punishment. Time to move on. Nothing new to see here.

    You wish.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,540 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    Said TD took his punishment. Time to move on. Nothing new to see here.

    There was a time not that long ago when a Garda would turn a blind eye to such an occurrence, more likely if said TD was an FFGer, less likely if the TD was PBP or SF. One wonders were they slower to inform the local journalist re this TD because of the political party he was in.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Truthvader


    You would think this guy was an avuncular lovely lad whose only task in life was to make everyone happy look after the needy in his community......


    These contributors here seem to think they can sell that image.

    Get on meessage man. Somone in FF was caught over the limit four years ago


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,540 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    Truthvader wrote: »
    Get on meessage man. Somone in FF was caught over the limit four years ago

    Yep and fúck all made about it


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,540 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    Truthvader wrote: »
    Get on meessage man. Somone in FF was caught over the limit four years ago

    This coming from a poster btw that keeps banging on about selected events from a conflict that ended more than 20 years ago. Breathtaking hypocrisy.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    TheCitizen wrote: »
    There was a time not that long ago when a Garda would turn a blind eye to such an occurrence, more likely if said TD was an FFGer, less likely if the TD was PBP or SF. One wonders were they slower to inform the local journalist re this TD because of the political party he was in.

    What? The man was found over the limit. He accepted his punishment. It’s over and done with. Get over it!


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,540 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    What? The man was found over the limit. He accepted his punishment. It’s over and done with. Get over it!

    :pac: I thought you must've been joking above, turns out you're serious. Amazing.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Said TD took his punishment. Time to move on. Nothing new to see here.

    As did Ferris and Ellis yet people seem incapable of moving on.
    I look forward to you telling them to do so.


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