FF/FG/Green Next Government

James Brown

[Deleted User] wrote: »

As i said shout down and sneer whenever your unable to engage to shut down debate...i havnt mentioned any government policies in that post.....

as i said anyone who dare Qs logic of getring into disputes with greiving families must be shouted down (imagine considering this as barrel scraping critism...wtf)



Agh yes....spouting conspiracies in place of political discussion to shut down discussion....yawn :rolleyes:

It's very simple if FF/FG were so great theyd be able to knock any faux criticism out of the park, but they cant. So it's shinners and what not. The mystery is where all the FG votes went and why? Actually that's no mystery.

BonnieSituation

blanch152 wrote: »

Let me explain it again with the facts.

FACT 1: Two ministers of state already got this salary under the previous government for doing a particular job, so it is not a new payment, it is not a payrise on an existing salary.

FACT 2: Three ministers of state got appointed by this government to do the same particular job, instead of two. The third one is a woman.

FACT 3: You and other posters don't want this woman to get the same rate for the same job.

FACT 4: We owe Mary Mitchell O'Connor a few bob

BonnieSituation

Shefwedfan wrote: »

A few days ago you wanted to give all TD minimum wage? Your opinion changes like the wind

New directive?

I thought we were allowed change our opinions when we wanted?

That was the prevailing opinion when FF got lamped with some hypocrisy when it came to this story.

BonnieSituation

blanch152 wrote: »

I want people with the ability to make high-level important decisions under extreme pressure. Very few of that type of person earns as little as the average wage.

Like Barry Cowen and Jack Chambers?

At least we got rid of one of them. Hopefully Jack's "liberalism" will do him in eventually.

RandomViewer

Geuze wrote: »

You are suggesting that TDs get paid 45-47k.

That is way too low.

Newly-qualified accountants aged 26 in Dublin get 48k.

Sol in late 20s in Dublin can earn towards 70k.

Given that being a TD involves long hours, always being available, I think twice the average wage is fair enough.

95k.


Now, travel expenses should be reduced.

Don't know why people bring up accountants and solicitors, it's a tiny niche sector, would they employ 4-5 k people between them.

Elmo

Most likely to last 4 years, The Green’s won’t pull this government down IMO

Elmo

Most likely to last 4 years, The Green’s won’t pull this government down IMO

Galwayguy35

Elmo wrote: »

Most likely to last 4 years, The Green’s won’t pull this government down IMO

They can't because they would be smashed if an election was called, doubt it will last 4 years though.

Galwayguy35

The €16000 pay rise the 2 super juniors got is very unpopular with the public, over this end Naughton is getting a lot of grief about it.

Elmo

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

They can't because they would be smashed if an election was called, doubt it will last 4 years though.

So what will bring the government down? It’s looking likely that Only FG would gain by bring the government down, I can’t see the popularity being depleted staying in Government IMO, and having to draw up a new PfG as they are unlikely to an overall majority.

https://twitter.com/baldoyle55/status/1287408877655425025

ExMachina1000

[Deleted User] wrote: »

https://twitter.com/baldoyle55/status/1287408877655425025

https://www.google.com/amp/s/extra.ie/2020/05/08/news/irish-news/e1million-covid-payment-scam/amp

Over a million euro of tax payers money saved because of great Gardai work. Hundreds of Brazilians trying scam social welfare.

blanch152

Deleted User wrote: »

https://twitter.com/baldoyle55/status/1287408877655425025

Absolutely right.

James Brown

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

https://www.google.com/amp/s/extra.ie/2020/05/08/news/irish-news/e1million-covid-payment-scam/amp

Over a million euro of tax payers money saved because of great Gardai work. Hundreds of Brazilians trying scam social welfare.

That's why we cant have nice things.
I hope they get fined and community service.

Elmo

Generally with JSA and JSB you apply for holiday AFAIK you get a week or 2, the payment is suspended until you return from holidays, on your return you get backpay. If you fail to tell the department then you risk losing your payment, at the very least you’ll have 2 weeks deducted.

Edgware

blanch152 wrote: »

Let me explain it again with the facts.

FACT 1: Two ministers of state already got this salary under the previous government for doing a particular job, so it is not a new payment, it is not a payrise on an existing salary.

FACT 2: Three ministers of state got appointed by this government to do the same particular job, instead of two. The third one is a woman.

FACT 3: You and other posters don't want this woman to get the same rate for the same job.

Well I suppose if she's willing to do "the bit of cleaning" around the place we should give her a biteen extra

Edgware

Bowie wrote: »

That's why we cant have nice things.
I hope they get fined and community service.

Dole frauds make Baby Jesus cry

Brendan Bendar

Hopefully now folk will begin to realise that we are being gamed biggo.

Tipping around, doing ‘this and that’ on the edge of the envelope .

Time we put the boot in on these tossers.

Eric Cartman

The amount of piss taking with the covid payments is insane, luckily its being so heavily publicised that it might make people think about all the other payments being abused in the system.

Brendan Bendar

Eric Cartman wrote: »

The amount of piss taking with the covid payments is insane, luckily its being so heavily publicised that it might make people think about all the other payments being abused in the system.

Plenty of gobshytes writing on the back pages of newspapers don’t agree.

Lefty tossers and smoked salmon socialists.

Curmudgeons.

Bishop of hope

Eric Cartman wrote: »

The amount of piss taking with the covid payments is insane, luckily its being so heavily publicised that it might make people think about all the other payments being abused in the system.

Yeah, we have junior ministers pay hikes to think of.

ExMachina1000

Bowie wrote: »

That's why we cant have nice things.
I hope they get fined and community service.

Not allowing them back in would be a logical step.

They tried to leave the state to return to Brazil but didn't cancel their covid payments. They would have continued to receive the PUP into their accounts every week

Sheepdish1

What role will Eoin Murphy have in Fine Geal now there is a new housing minister?

Rodney Bathgate

Sheepdish1 wrote: »

What role will Eoin Murphy have in Fine Geal now there is a new housing minister?

Eoghan Murphy is a Fine Gael TD, so his role is the same as any government TD backbencher who is not a member of the cabinet etc.

Beasty

Threads merged

Eric Cartman

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Yeah, we have junior ministers pay hikes to think of.

its very possible to think both are wrong...

Scoondal

https://tenor.com/view/dads-were-doomed-gif-10730215The new government is doomed "DOMEd I tells ya"[/B

Bishop of hope

Eric Cartman wrote: »

its very possible to think both are wrong...

Yes of course. And I agree with your original point.
Loads of backlash over the rise now, probably be a pay row with teachers and medical unions and most public service unions.
It wasn't a smart move.

Loafing Oaf

Sheepdish1 wrote: »

What role will Eoin Murphy have in Fine Geal now there is a new housing minister?

He has some organisational position within FG, liaising between membership and parliamentary party or somesuch...

Scoundrel

blanch152 wrote: »

I want people with the ability to make high-level important decisions under extreme pressure. Very few of that type of person earns as little as the average wage.

Don't we all? Now if you could explain how paying useless turds like Chambers and crony nobodies like Hackett and Naughton €140,000 a year achieves that i'll be very impressed.