FF/FG/Green Next Government

Shefwedfan

FrancieBrady wrote: »

It's not 'personal' when you are posing for paprazzi Shef.

Look at the pics...they are PR shoots....buying a new jacket (who gets a photographer out to photograph that? :rolleyes: Having a meal out etc etc.

If it's your private life, keep it private, most others manage it.

The reason photographers are after Leo is because of the amount of people who have so little going on in their own lives they are obsessed with him. Just look at the PBP lady who couldn't even comment on an event Leo went to, posted about the jacket he had on him in the middle of winter. Then when she got hammered abotu the comment took it down?

All the littles minions running around taking photos of Leo when he is not at work and then crying about it. Seriously. Is this the level of politics the country has sunk to?

You tell me Francie, why are you so interested? you seem to constantly talk about Leo personal life, whats the obsession?

Personally I couldnt care what any of them do in personal lives

FrancieBrady

Shefwedfan wrote: »

The reason photographers are after Leo is because of the amount of people who have so little going on in their own lives they are obsessed with him. Just look at the PBP lady who couldn't even comment on an event Leo went to, posted about the jacket he had on him in the middle of winter. Then when she got hammered abotu the comment took it down?

All the littles minions running around taking photos of Leo when he is not at work and then crying about it. Seriously. Is this the level of politics the country has sunk to?

You tell me Francie, why are you so interested? you seem to constantly talk about Leo personal life, whats the obsession?

Personally I couldnt care what any of them do in personal lives

He is 'posing for' the photographer. You are shooting the messenger again

Shefwedfan

FrancieBrady wrote: »

He is 'posing for' the photographer. You are shooting the messenger again

Im not shooting anyone. I asked you a question. You constantly are discussing Leo personal life. What is your obsession with it?

No idea why you think that is shooting the messengar.

Didn't one of the other posters on here have Leo's partner name as his baords name. Like what the hell is that about????

Limpy

I prefer the photo's of Leo doing 10ks with your one after she had the awful fall.

JohnnyFlash

Politicians shouldn't be allowed have a personal and private life.

SEPT 23 1989

we need the strongest government the state has ever had to deal with what's coming down the line for this country

there is too much messing at the moment

Floppybits

Another U-turn now.

Fann Linn

Floppybits wrote: »

Another U-turn now.

They're brutal.
And all those posters on here who spoke about all the experience FG/FF had in govt.

Limpy

Hahaha x 10.

Fann Linn

Can we have an Xcell sheet as a sticky for all their cock ups:
Barry Cowen.
Eamonn Ryan's zzzzzzzz
Junior Ministers Pay increase.
Junior Ministers Pay decrease.
PUP Holiday ban.
PUP Holiday ban roll back

Limpy

Fann Linn wrote: »

Can we have an Xcell sheet as a sticky for all their cock ups:
Barry Cowen.
Eamonn Ryan's zzzzzzzz
Junior Ministers Pay increase.
Junior Ministers Pay decrease.
PUP Holiday ban.
PUP Holiday ban roll back

The O'Gorman fella having to distance himself from a certain LGBT guy.

mattser

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

we need the strongest government the state has ever had to deal with what's coming down the line for this country

there is too much messing at the moment

Just be thankful the alternative to what we have now run from responsibility.

Bishop of hope

blanch152 wrote: »

So, some solicitor in FLAC thinks its wrong?

Quick fix in the Dail tomorrow and its sorted.

Yep. You were right, but not the, right you expected.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0729/1156187-pandemic-unemployment-payment/

rob316

Its FF under the leadership of the old guard, is anyone even slightly surprised? 10 years from now their will be a litany of tribunals to do with this government.

Its such a poor a government with little talent, election again around the corner.

FrancieBrady

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Im not shooting anyone. I asked you a question. You constantly are discussing Leo personal life. What is your obsession with it?

No idea why you think that is shooting the messengar.

Didn't one of the other posters on here have Leo's partner name as his baords name. Like what the hell is that about????

You are inventing a scenario now where I am constantly discussing his 'private' life. I'm not. These are publicity shots he is happy to pose for...ie, he is complicit in it.

James Brown

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Yep. You were right, but not the, right you expected.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0729/1156187-pandemic-unemployment-payment/

This will be interesting. Tore fictitious lumps out of the opposition the last few days over numerous threads for suggesting what HH is now putting a stamp on. It'll be completely fine now of course.
Maybe she just passed the letter?

Brendan Bendar

Bowie wrote: »

This will be interesting. Tore fictitious lumps out of the opposition the last few days over numerous threads for suggesting what HH is now putting a stamp on. It'll be completely fine now of course.
Maybe she just passed the letter?

Still trying to breathe life into that one,bub.

Scoundrel

NEW: Government u-turn. There will be a change of the rules so anyone who travels to greenlist countries won't have their pandemic unemployment payment stopped.

Christ almighty what a shambles it's the government bots and trolls I feel sorry for out all day defending the latest government policy only for a complete u turn the next day and they've to slog away defending that the next day.

efanton

Easy to know FF are back in power


'Pandemic payment legislation means you must be 'genuinely seeking employment''
https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/pandemic-payment-legislation-means-you-must-be-genuinely-seeking-employment-1012639.html

Surely the whole point of the PUP payment was for those that ARE NOT seeking new employment but are unable to work due to covid restrictions. THey still (hopefully) have jobs to go back to once restrictions are lifted. Technically they are still in employment, and still under contract to work.

How is a barman going to seek work elsewhere?
How are the thousand of workers whose job is directly dependent on tourism going to find similar work elsewhere?
If the previous FG government were to be believed that unemployment was down to just a few percent before the covid crisis where are these jobs to be found?

Seriously, we are not two months into a new government and they are making a complete balls of it, and not making any sense at all.

If people are seeking new employment they should be applying for Job Seekers allowance, and there is absolutely zero need for this legislation.

This new legislation makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Not only that but no doubt it is likely to be legally challenged.

Shefwedfan

FrancieBrady wrote: »

You are inventing a scenario now where I am constantly discussing his 'private' life. I'm not. These are publicity shots he is happy to pose for...ie, he is complicit in it.

Duck, dive, dodge. No surprise Francie you don't answer the question.


As I said, I have no obession with the personal lives of TD's. No idea why anyone else would. If you don't want to explain that of course if your choice.

FrancieBrady

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Duck, dive, dodge. No surprise Francie you don't answer the question.


As I said, I have no obession with the personal lives of TD's. No idea why anyone else would. If you don't want to explain that of course if your choice.

Your 'private life' is the one you have when you are not posing for photographs Shef...it ain't rocket science.

smurgen

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Duck, dive, dodge. No surprise Francie you don't answer the question.


As I said, I have no obession with the personal lives of TD's. No idea why anyone else would. If you don't want to explain that of course if your choice.

Desperation.

Fann Linn

smurgen wrote: »

Desperation.

and Deflection.

christy c

I don't remember a more chaotic start to a government
It's a difficult time at the moment no doubt, but a lot of completely unnecessary headlines being generated for themselves.

Shefwedfan

christy c wrote: »

I don't remember a more chaotic start to a government
It's a difficult time at the moment no doubt, but a lot of completely unnecessary headlines being generated for themselves.

You do realize we are in the middle of a Worldwide crisis?

KyussB

Disingenuous arseholes asking anyone to 'genuinely seek employment', when they know there aren't enough jobs, and won't bother creating the jobs themselves - when there is an abundance of sorely needed work (direct government building of houses for one - can be done on a self financing for-profit basis even), ample available money at negative interest rates, and loads of unemployed people to do it and train up to do it.

It's insulting to everyone to pretend that there's enough work for everyone out there. The government need to be the ones directly providing the work with a Job Guarantee.

is_that_so

christy c wrote: »

I don't remember a more chaotic start to a government
It's a difficult time at the moment no doubt, but a lot of completely unnecessary headlines being generated for themselves.

In normal times we wouldn't notice and it would just be shouting matches in the Dail. Now we're watching their every move. It's ironic that the most difficult part of this pandemic may turn out to have been the best managed.

As for the chaos, some ministers are just trying too hard. Being the main man, that falls on Martin, but he too seems to be trying to prove how great a job they can do. I don't think it's all of them and the current concerns do revolve around about 3 departments, all of which have a new minister, with two of them complete newbies.
I also think they are very much handicapped by their now "firmer" approach and having to depend on a very dysfunctional department to deliver what may already be the defining moment of government. It is a schools or bust scenario!

Water John

As Angela Merkel said, the closing down is the easy part, it's the gradual opening up is the difficult part.

christy c

Shefwedfan wrote: »

You do realize we are in the middle of a Worldwide crisis?

I do, and in fairness that makes sense. But there have been stupid things nothing to do with the crisis (Barry Cowen was bad optics no matter what way you look at it).

That said, a glance across the other side of the Dail would send a shiver down your spine.

jammiedodgers

Shefwedfan wrote: »

You do realize we are in the middle of a Worldwide crisis?

Sounds like the ideal time for a pay rise doesn't it.