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RandomViewer

FF thread, call out useless when I see it

FrancieBrady

Shefwedfan wrote: »

John Hume has died, a great man and was critical to peace process

Yet all you can think about is a childish pop at FF........

RIP John Hume a true great of NI

Hume is a great man of Ireland. Why would you be partitionist at a time like this? Hume taught the Dublin government more about a solution than anyone else.

He failed so many times with initiatives but when he teamed up with Adams in the Hume-Adams talks a solution evolved.
The 'solution' was not a NI one but an all island one, involving Dublin integrally in the GFA.
Remember - Hume had to do a solo run outside the SDLP to achievw this breakthrough with Adams.

RandomViewer

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Hume is a great man of Ireland. Why would you be partitionist at a time like this? Hume taught the Dublin government more about a solution than anyone else.

He failed so many times with initiatives but when he teamed up with Adams in the Hume-Adams talks a solution evolved.
The 'solution' was not a NI one but an all island one, involving Dublin integrally in the GFA.
Remember - Hume had to do a solo run outside the SDLP to achievw this breakthrough with Adams.

Think that's why the SDLP imploded after he retired, they really didn't want to interact with the poorer sections of society,

BonnieSituation

Shefwedfan wrote: »

John Hume has died, a great man and was critical to peace process

Yet all you can think about is a childish pop at FF........

RIP John Hume a true great of NI

Unlike John you're a Partitionist to the end Shef.

FF can handle a few pops after their shambolic month (or decade) or so. You're quick enough to have childish pops at all and sundry yourself.

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He wasn't "Ireland's Greatest" for nowt. RIP John.

Yurt2

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I think most people realise he's right. The civil service were never known to be especially hard working and now with a combination of government instability, their unions and covid, they can sit back and watch their box sets without any chance of reprisal against them.

There's always a market for giving civil servants and teachers a kick by people who don't appreciate what they do. Strong functioning institutions staffed and administrated by competent civil servants are the difference between developed countries and failed states. We happen to have a pretty decent one. We'd look more like Moldova if whe didn't have them.


A good civil service is the backbone of a functioning developed state.

Shefwedfan

RandomViewer wrote: »

Not childish, because of the unfortunate situation where we have a basket case for a Taoiseach who will make incompetent digs at others instead of being semi-statesman like in his statements on John Humes death, the man has the people skills of a two year old , sending him to the funeral would be a mistake, let the lepreauchan go and let the rest stay at home.

What your posts show is how childish some of the public have become.....even the death of a person and it’s some petty little post....

Shefwedfan

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Hume is a great man of Ireland. Why would you be partitionist at a time like this? Hume taught the Dublin government more about a solution than anyone else.

He failed so many times with initiatives but when he teamed up with Adams in the Hume-Adams talks a solution evolved.
The 'solution' was not a NI one but an all island one, involving Dublin integrally in the GFA.
Remember - Hume had to do a solo run outside the SDLP to achievw this breakthrough with Adams.

Teamed up with Adams? Good SF spin on that one

SF as usual have no respect for anyone, just trying to score a few points. Disgrace

Quantum Erasure

...some petty little post :rolleyes:

FrancieBrady

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Teamed up with Adams? Good SF spin on that one

SF as usual have no respect for anyone, just trying to score a few points. Disgrace

The 'Hume-Adams initiative' ever hear of it Shef?
Correct me if I am wrong, there are two names there.
All Hume's initiatives up to this had failed.

xl500

While John Hume Was giving away the Money He was awarded from the Nobel Commission Bertie was stashing his in Briefcases and betting it on Horses that's the difference right there

Shefwedfan

xl500 wrote: »

While John Hume Was giving away the Money He was awarded from the Nobel Commission Bertie was stashing his in Briefcases and betting it on Horses that's the difference right there

So now you want to tell people what they can/can’t do with their money?

xl500

Shefwedfan wrote: »

So now you want to tell people what they can/can’t do with their money?

Not really I cant and dont have the Authority to do So But Judge Alan Mahon certainly has heres what he Said

"What did it find against him?

In its final report in March 2012, the Mahon Tribunal rejected much of Ahern’s evidence.

While it accepted his claim that he didn’t have a bank account for years between 1987 and 1993, it rejected his assertion that he had built up around £54,000 in savings by the time.

In all, the Tribunal said that he did not truthfully account for payments of £165,000 made to accounts connected to him.

This included the Manchester dinner with Irish businessmen, where the Tribunal rejected the assertion that two-thirds of the £24,838 figure mentioned was in punts. The Mahon Tribunal said it was solely a Sterling payment of £25,000, and suggesting that Ahern had not been truthful in his evidence."



Did not Truthfully Account means he Lied to the Tribunal

RandomViewer

Shefwedfan wrote: »

What your posts show is how childish some of the public have become.....even the death of a person and it’s some petty little post....

This is the FFG thread, criticism of pointless little pr $#k MM is what it's for. Using John Humes death as an excuse to protect the sleazy Corkonian runt is pathetic even for you.

RandomViewer

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The 'Hume-Adams initiative' ever hear of it Shef?
Correct me if I am wrong, there are two names there.
All Hume's initiatives up to this had failed.

As far as Sheffy's concerned Bertie singlehandedly created and delivered the GFA, everyone else just made the tea

Professor Moriarty

RandomViewer wrote: »

This is the FFG thread, criticism of pointless little pr $#k MM is what it's for. Using John Humes death as an excuse to protect the sleazy Corkonian runt is pathetic even for you.

No it's not. It's the FF/FG/Green thread. No more than the SF thread isn't the SFIRA thread.

RandomViewer

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

No it's not. It's the FF/FG?Dreen thread. No more than the SF thread isn't the SFIRA thread.

What's a Dreen? Doesn't sound insulting enough for the Children of the Quorn

DenMan

Michael Martin is to address the nation this evening.

https://theliberal.ie/recently-appointed-taoiseach-micheal-martin-set-to-address-the-nation-this-evening/

Brendan Bendar

RandomViewer wrote: »

This is the FFG thread, criticism of pointless little pr $#k MM is what it's for. Using John Humes death as an excuse to protect the sleazy Corkonian runt is pathetic even for you.

There won’t be the dull scones with the white shirts and black ties at this funeral, I hope.

I hope and expect that this funeral will be conducted with dignity unlike the pantomime at the previous event.

Put sleazy into another planet.

James Brown

DenMan wrote: »

Michael Martin is to address the nation this evening.

https://theliberal.ie/recently-appointed-taoiseach-micheal-martin-set-to-address-the-nation-this-evening/

So Leo will be giving a sneaky spolier one...oh, wait...

NPHET advising 'cautious approach' to reopening, says Varadkar

Tánaiste Leo Varadkar has said the National Public Health Emergency Team (NPHET) is advising that the Government takes a "cautious approach" to reopening over the coming weeks.

On the way in to a Cabinet meeting this afternoon, he said: "I know that will come as a further blow to some of the sectors that can't be reopened. But we just can't risk moving backward or risk schools reopening."
https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0804/1157163-covid-19-phase-3-decision/

JohnnyFlash

RandomViewer wrote: »

This is the FFG thread, criticism of pointless little pr $#k MM is what it's for. Using John Humes death as an excuse to protect the sleazy Corkonian runt is pathetic even for you.

You need to chill out, my friend.

Shefwedfan

RandomViewer wrote: »

This is the FFG thread, criticism of pointless little pr $#k MM is what it's for. Using John Humes death as an excuse to protect the sleazy Corkonian runt is pathetic even for you.

Breathe.....

Shefwedfan

RandomViewer wrote: »

As far as Sheffy's concerned Bertie singlehandedly created and delivered the GFA, everyone else just made the tea

I would be interested to see the post from thsi character "Sheffy's", sounds like a lovely chap but not sure why he would think only Bertie delivered it.....

The_Conductor

Bowie wrote: »

So Leo will be giving a sneaky spolier one...oh, wait...

Somehow- I can't see this working.
If even Leo can't keep his big mouth shut and out of the business of other Ministers/Departments/the Taoiseach- it doesn't exactly bode well.

James Brown

The_Conductor wrote: »

Somehow- I can't see this working.
If even Leo can't keep his big mouth shut and out of the business of other Ministers/Departments/the Taoiseach- it doesn't exactly bode well.

He was always like that. He's obviously not much of a team player.

The_Conductor

Bowie wrote: »

He was always like that. He's obviously not much of a team player.

Well, if he can't play nice- who wants to take bets on how long before this 'coalition' falls to pieces? The seams are already coming apart.

Scoondal

SMEs and Sole Traders are angry. They are having to negotiate with their insurers, suppliers and loan providers. And they no longer have a date to work towards to re-start trading.
People in nusing homes are subject to visits that are worse than visits to prisioners.
And the smug do gooders say that we are "All in this together". Such ignorance is disgusting.

Shefwedfan

Scoondal wrote: »

SMEs and Sole Traders are angry. They are having to negotiate with their insurers, suppliers and loan providers. And they no longer have a date to work towards to re-start trading.
People in nusing homes are subject to visits that are worse than visits to prisioners.
And the smug do gooders say that we are "All in this together". Such ignorance is disgusting.

So what would you do?

James Brown

I get safety concerns and am on board.
How does one justify opening schools, but not pubs, unless they sell food. Is steak and Kidney pie or crayons a deterant to Covid 19?
Worse case in a pub people act like children and don't observe social distancing...unlike children who...wait a minute..

Scoondal

Leo Varadakar tells restaurants and bars selling food that "customers should be off the premises by 11".

Scoondal

Shefwedfan wrote: »

So what would you do?

Let these people come off social welfare and operate their business in the same way that other business operates. It's called faireness for all.
Does anyone else have questions ?