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FF/FG/Green Next Government

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    #6422
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    People are rightfully livid. This is going to be massive.

    https://twitter.com/NaomiOhReally/status/1296543839159820288?s=19


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    #6423
    Poor_old_gill
    Registered Users Posts: 2,895 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Haven't seen a storm of protest like this during the whole pandemic...he's toast and any with him.
    Government is severe peril.

    Government is done, FF are done.

    Only thing that might save it now is the fact that it might not be safe to hold an election.

    Wouldn’t be surprised to see FF collapse, with TDs defecting to other parties, such is the shambles they have become


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    #6424
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    smurgen wrote: »
    Can you imagine the optics of the same Government that organised social welfare checks at airports organising a golf society piss up during lockdown?


    The government didn't organize the event, you do understand that don't you?



    Did you manage to read the article? or get stuck at headline again?


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    #6425
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Poor_old_gill wrote: »
    Government is done, FF are done.

    Only thing that might save it now is the fact that it might be safe to hold an election.

    Wouldn’t be surprised to see FF collapse, with TDs defecting to other parties, such is the shambles they have become


    Cowan was always a better TD....


    I don't see the government falling but lets say they do? who is going to take over?


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    #6426
    Poor_old_gill
    Registered Users Posts: 2,895 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Cowan was always a better TD....


    I don't see the government falling but lets say they do? who is going to take over?

    I think you might see some defections from FF- is said to you before this came out that I thought the were done as a party & this only adds to my feelings on it.


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    #6427
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    The twatter ratio of his apology is off the scale!


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    #6428
    Scoundrel
    Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭Scoundrel


    How many ministers for agricultural is this now? The arrogance is breathtaking truly breathtaking. Will this shambles of a government even make its first budget?

    Surely there are people in FG thinking "let's pull the plug on these fools now and kill them off altogether"??


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    #6429
    Scoundrel
    Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭Scoundrel


    smurgen wrote: »
    People are rightfully livid. This is going to be massive.

    https://twitter.com/NaomiOhReally/status/1296543839159820288?s=19

    Hes done and no amount of apologising will save him the optics are terrible here its brings to mind Nero fiddling while Rome burns.


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    #6430
    Sierra Oscar
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,503 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    He's going to have to resign.


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    #6431
    Poor_old_gill
    Registered Users Posts: 2,895 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    Scoundrel wrote: »
    How many ministers for agricultural is this now? The arrogance is breathtaking truly breathtaking. Will this shambles of a government even make its first budget?

    Surely there are people in FG thinking "let's pull the plug on these fools now and kill them off altogether"??

    If FG pull the plug then it will only be to keep a safe distance from this sh*t show- if they wanted to finish FF altogether then they would keep giving them more rope by leaving them in Gov.

    Wait until the schools go back & Norma Foley has to handle a crisis


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    #6432
    BonnieSituation
    Registered Users Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    That poster seems to think ranting and raving is how you should act on a public forum, personally I dont think so.


    The "question" is a copy and paste of the question I asked numerous posters yesterday, when none could provide an answer this is the carry on since....personal attacks and ranting and raving from someone who wasn't even part of the discussion.....

    So you're gonna duck and dive as always.

    Grand.


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    #6433
    Gerry Hatrick
    Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    Does anyone know if Phil Hogan was at the event? I've heard he was but he was in Brussels last week so no way he could isolate the 2 weeks before this event.


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    #6434
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Poor_old_gill wrote: »
    If FG pull the plug then it will only be to keep a safe distance from this sh*t show- if they wanted to finish FF altogether then they would keep giving them more rope by leaving them in Gov.

    Wait until the schools go back & Norma Foley has to handle a crisis

    If they can find her for a comment.

    FG can't pull the plug over this, they were at it.


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    #6435
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Poor_old_gill wrote: »
    I think you might see some defections from FF- is said to you before this came out that I thought the were done as a party & this only adds to my feelings on it.

    Why would the party be done? What’s the alternative?

    People spent the last 5 years trying to get FG out, they going to vote them back in?


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    #6436
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,248 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Bowie wrote: »
    If they can find her for a comment.

    FG can't pull the plug over this, they were at it.

    Phil Hogan was there.


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    #6437
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,248 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Why would the party be done? What’s the alternative?

    People spent the last 5 years trying to get FG out, they going to vote them back in?

    They didn't vote FF in either...the electorate get their chance to pronounce judgement on that only at the next election.


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    #6438
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Gerry Hatrick wrote: »
    Does anyone know if Phil Hogan was at the event? I've heard he was but he was in Brussels last week so no way he could isolate the 2 weeks before this event.
    It's being confirmed on the main thread about this.
    And ex-RTE man of the people, Sean O'Rourke.
    I wonder was Hogan's journey from Brussels essential?


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    #6439
    Poor_old_gill
    Registered Users Posts: 2,895 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    Bowie wrote: »
    If they can find her for a comment.

    FG can't pull the plug over this, they were at it.

    They were but with the amount of focus on FF’s utter incompetence then they might get away with it.

    As a said in a diff thread- the oddest thing about this is how it’s not even remotely sinister, it’s just amateurish!

    Gone be the days with politicians were too clever for their own good.

    I wanted this gov to work because, as you know, I’m fairly vehemently anti SF- but it has been a sh*t show & it’s time to pull the plug


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    #6440
    Poor_old_gill
    Registered Users Posts: 2,895 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Why would the party be done? What’s the alternative?

    People spent the last 5 years trying to get FG out, they going to vote them back in?

    Because they have become a shambles.

    They have no impressive or well spoken TDs, they are living off their name & the votes of older ‘lifetime’ members & now they are making an absolute shambles of running a Government.

    FF are done


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    #6441
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    They didn't vote FF in either...the electorate get their chance to pronounce judgement on that only at the next election.

    Do we have to explain AGAIN how an election works?


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    #6442
    threeball
    Registered Users Posts: 8,232 ✭✭✭threeball


    What a fcuking mess of a party FF are. Great front runners when there's money in the kitty and they can lash out a give away budget. Give them a bit of a curve ball and the house of cards comes crashing down. Martin is a shambles of a Taoiseach, Donnelly is a dope with the communication skills of a hermit, the education brief has been one disaster after another. Now you have Calleary who's a obnoxious twit at the best of times and only parachuted in after Cowan had shot himself in the foot. And we're supposed to follow the guidance of these simpletons.


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    #6443
    McMurphy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    The proposed legislation about giving Gardai more power to enter people's private homes without warrants to break up house partys was being discussed at length today on Newstalk..

    In light of this news, it will make great listening tomorrow should they decide to revisit the topic.


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    #6444
    Scoondal
    Registered Users Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Scoondal


    We need to explain something to Dara Calleary. Michael Cawley resigned straight away. Calleary blatently disregarded public health advice.


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    #6445
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Poor_old_gill wrote: »
    Because they have become a shambles.

    They have no impressive or well spoken TDs, they are living off their name & the votes of older ‘lifetime’ members & now they are making an absolute shambles of running a Government.

    FF are done

    Not true and you know it, plenty of FF TD got voted in no problem. The biggest crisis in the party was after the bust. MM got to be Taoiseach and that’s what he wanted. The government won’t fail over this, not a chance, he will continue on and slip away and new leadership will come in place.

    Who are these impressive TD? In Jan I’m sure everyone including yourself was saying FG was a shambles, now are you saying they are not?

    FF TD are how many weeks into a job in the biggest crisis in hundred years, yet people are writing them off. Shocking really.....

    Pull the government so, what’s your alternative?


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    #6446
    Scoondal
    Registered Users Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Scoondal


    This is the government that just keeps giving. What next ?


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    #6447
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,248 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Do we have to explain AGAIN how an election works?

    No.
    The electorate vote...if there is a single majority you can say the party was voted in.
    If it's a coalition the electorate get no say in what that coalition is until next time out.

    Very simple really. This government was not chosen by the people...the people accept the concept of forming coalitions...you can say that okay.


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    #6448
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    No.
    The electorate vote...if there is a single majority you can say the party was voted in.
    If it's a coalition the electorate get no say in what that coalition is until next time out.

    Very simple really. This government was not chosen by the people...the people accept the concept of forming coalitions...you can say that okay.

    The party with most seats win....it’s not that difficult is it Francie, it’s hasn’t changed since republic was created, if you don’t understand that your issue nobody else’s


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    #6449
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Poor_old_gill wrote: »
    They were but with the amount of focus on FF’s utter incompetence then they might get away with it.

    As a said in a diff thread- the oddest thing about this is how it’s not even remotely sinister, it’s just amateurish!

    Gone be the days with politicians were too clever for their own good.

    I wanted this gov to work because, as you know, I’m fairly vehemently anti SF- but it has been a sh*t show & it’s time to pull the plug

    If they changed their housing policy I could live with them.
    ...before the expected implosion.


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    #6450
    Poor_old_gill
    Registered Users Posts: 2,895 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Not true and you know it, plenty of FF TD got voted in no problem. The biggest crisis in the party was after the bust. MM got to be Taoiseach and that’s what he wanted. The government won’t fail over this, not a chance, he will continue on and slip away and new leadership will come in place.

    Who are these impressive TD? In Jan I’m sure everyone including yourself was saying FG was a shambles, now are you saying they are not?

    FF TD are how many weeks into a job in the biggest crisis in hundred years, yet people are writing them off. Shocking really.....

    Pull the government so, what’s your alternative?

    It’s not up to me to decide the next government? That’s not how it works.

    This gov has been a shambles- it’s not like FF are handling a tough situation well or even to a moderate level - they are making a balls of it.

    Martin is in over his head
    Donnelly is in over his head
    Foley is in over her head
    Calleary, well he’s just a goon
    Cowan...

    Come on man- it’s time to face reality here


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    #6451
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Scoondal wrote: »
    This is the government that just keeps giving. What next ?

    Maybe a story about witnesses not going to Garda till they got approval from a political party they wouldn’t be killed if they did

    Oh sorry that’s the opposition , my mistake :-)


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