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Hawthorn Tree

Shefwedfan wrote: »

and?

What is this supposed to mean?

A few posts ago you claimed to be a political expert, that reputation has taken a serious nosedive

Incorrect. I claimed to know more than a poster who suggested everyone criticising the goverment is a SF voter/supporter/shill/shinnerbot. Simplistic nonsense.

Hey...you are doing a great job for your beloved FF. Top marks. Keep it up.

FrancieBrady

Shefwedfan wrote: »

This is what you said Francie





So what answers do the Garda have to give?



If they are investigating well and good but they have zero answers to give.

1. Did they drive somebody out of a restricted zone for a non essential event
2. If the event was 'wrong' why did they not stop it.
That will do for a start

BonnieSituation

Hawthorn Tree wrote: »

I have never voted for SF in my life. I probably never will but I am fast running out of options. SF were total idiots to attend that funeral. I couldn't even tell you who died. Their excuses were utter nonsense. They remind me of the Borg in Star Trek. They are part of the reason our political system is so dysfunctional - we don't have a credible opposition to FFG who have gorged on our taxes for decades. SF have many poor and creepy TDs but they are not in govt and did not go to Clifden. How much more do you want? Why do people give FFG a pass because SF exist?
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You can't blame SF on the dysfunction of FF or FG for that matter.

Where's Labour in all your blame?

SF were a non-entity until 1998 really and even then they talked of peaking in 2016 election. It's not credible to blame political parties for the idiocy of other political parties.

The electorate are to "blame" for this. And the fragmented nature of the Dáil is, based on how votes fell, what they want.

I mean, that Lowry still gas a seat. That the healy-raes still have seats. That tax defaulting developer, Mick Wallace consistently got elected is a testament to the idiocy of the people.

So put the blame where it needs to be put.

And if you really want to throw blame around, look at Labour and Gilmore. If they went into opposition in 2011, that would have been the end of FF and a likely victory for Labour in 2016.

Hawthorn Tree

BonnieSituation wrote: »

You can't blame SF on the dysfunction of FF or FG for that matter.

Where's Labour in all your blame?

SF were a non-entity until 1998 really and even then they talked of peaking in 2016 election. It's not credible to blame political parties for the idiocy of other political parties.

The electorate are to "blame" for this. And the fragmented nature of the Dáil is, based on how votes fell, what they want.

I mean, that Lowry still gas a seat. That the healy-raes still have seats. That tax defaulting developer, Mick Wallace consistently got elected is a testament to the idiocy of the people.

So put the blame where it needs to be put.

And if you really want to throw blame around, look at Labour and Gilmore. If they went into opposition in 2011, that would have been the end of FF and a likely victory for Labour in 2016.

Labour are a disgrace and have been punished accordingly since 2011. Gilmore certainly feathered his own and his wife's nest in Galway.
I detested AK47 during the Irish Water saga but he has improved.

McMurphy

blanch152 wrote: »

They are hiding in case someone asks why are Mary-Lou and Pearse still their representatives after breaking the lockdown rules to go to the show pageant funeral of the good republican up North.

The island wide lockdown was lifted the day before Storeys funeral Blanch, I know this is a difficult time for you, but at least try and pretend you have a clue what you're on about.

Shefwedfan

FrancieBrady wrote: »

1. Did they drive somebody out of a restricted zone for a non essential event
2. If the event was 'wrong' why did they not stop it.
That will do for a start

:P
Francie, what are you talking about? so you now think a Garda escort is a baby sitting service for politicians so they can tell them wrong/right?


Are we back to the Nazi party when the Gestapo would kill people for stepping out of line, is that the plan if SF ever got into power.....:P


This is hillarious how you come up with this, the TD was on holidays, it was a private function. Why would a Garda escort get involved if they even where part of his detail that night?


This is baffling

BonnieSituation

Shefwedfan wrote: »

He is winding up loads of people.....


Plus for someone who people to hold such an low opinion he has managed to get himself the top job in the Country in politics.....

I mean, he clung on as leader of a party with a serious talent deficit.

And he had to go into coalition with FG to be Taoiseach. What a leader he is. He's not even Jack Lynch "good". And that sums him up really.

I guess "winding people up" is more important than coherent and decisive leadership. No wonder you are so enamoured with him and FF.

Sir Oxman

*Unfollows*

BonnieSituation

blanch152 wrote: »

Poor Bobby Storey, if only he could have got the republican funeral he deserved.

I seem to have wandered into the an anti-SF thread again.

Poor_old_gill

Hawthorn Tree wrote: »

Incorrect. I claimed to know more than a poster who suggested everyone criticising the goverment is a SF voter/supporter/shill/shinnerbot. Simplistic nonsense.

Hey...you are doing a great job for your beloved FF. Top marks. Keep it up.

That is not what I suggested actually - I never called anyone a shinnerbot, etc so you can add that to your list of bullsh*t lies today.

I think you might have a split/multiple personalities

And you claimed to know more than I'll ever know without having anything to back it up

BonnieSituation

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Even if he gets fired in the morning he will be paid a fortune of a pension for years


So I woudl say fairly rosey, would you not?

You're proud of his pension pot now?

Poor_old_gill

BonnieSituation wrote: »

You can't blame SF on the dysfunction of FF or FG for that matter.

Where's Labour in all your blame?

SF were a non-entity until 1998 really and even then they talked of peaking in 2016 election. It's not credible to blame political parties for the idiocy of other political parties.

The electorate are to "blame" for this. And the fragmented nature of the Dáil is, based on how votes fell, what they want.

I mean, that Lowry still gas a seat. That the healy-raes still have seats. That tax defaulting developer, Mick Wallace consistently got elected is a testament to the idiocy of the people.

So put the blame where it needs to be put.

And if you really want to throw blame around, look at Labour and Gilmore. If they went into opposition in 2011, that would have been the end of FF and a likely victory for Labour in 2016.

He's never voted SF, hates FF & FG and thinks Labour are a disgrace!

You're arguing with a PDs supporter by the look of things

BonnieSituation

Shefwedfan wrote: »

IT is great to see in the biggest crisis in year in Ireland, with everything going on we have no sign whatsoever of "the best opposition ever"

Look like the Sinners all off hiding somehwere, maybe on holidays abroad but the SF trolls wont mention that???

If in Ireland you would expect them all to be standing outside RTE begging for someone to interview them

Why do they need to do anything?

The government are shooting themselves in the foot left-right-and-centre.

Do we need to rehash the famous saying from Napoleon about interrupting the enemy?

The vox pops and phone ins all morning are all the same; the people are furious. No need for SF or the SDs to do anything really. Alan Kelly had his spoke on the news at one of course.

Brendan Bendar

FrancieBrady wrote: »

And you continue the bull. She of course pointed out the wrong...the FF wrong...but took no wrongdoing on behalf of FG on board. They are partnersd in government, the buck for the actions of the government stops with them all.

The government, some of the opposition, the judiciary, the gardai all have answers to give here.

Incorrect Francie, again incorrect.

She as I heard it implied the Hogan misread the public mood and having seen the set up should have left.

When pressed by Sarah she rightly said about his position that it was up to him to defend it .She wasn’t there so it’s his call.

On the Wolfe issue she, as I saw it , implied his position was untenable.

She gave a very fair crack of the whip to everyone, bearing in mind that they have right of reply on the issue too.

The bullhorn lad from DL can ‘call’ for sackings and ‘action’ all he likes.

People just ignore that auld codswallop, but at the end of the day Regina got it right, was clear how she felt but had to take into account peoples right of a fair right to defend themselves.

So Francie you are way off the mark as usual.

BonnieSituation

Shefwedfan wrote: »

I know the party you supports is corrupt to the core. Illegal activity is not called out and hid. Covered up



Normal parties and normal people will not stick with that. The guys done wrong, it was called out.

Yes, FF are paragons of virtue...

BonnieSituation

RandomViewer wrote: »

SocDems wont get any seats outside of urban areas, old Labour voters, nothing for rural Ireland

I don't think they care.

The urban vote is way more valuable and easier to get.

Why waste time and money trying to get the vote off an old codger in Barraduff who's only gonna vote for a Healy-Rae anyway.

Muahahaha

jaysis I always knew FG and FF in power together would be a car crash but this has turned into an absolute holy mess, people are raging at them.

Whats worse is they have now totally undermined any government advice on restrictions. People who were following the guidelines are just going to go fcuk this, why bother when FFG are making mugs out of all of us. Similar to the Domnic Cummings affair in the UK the behaviour of FFG here has now legitimised others not following the restrictions. Tipp might be the next county for a local lockdown but if FFG call it they just have no credibility anymore to tell anyone what to do and people will ignore it. Kildare are getting a further two weeks of lockdown later today but why would residents there even listen to anything FFG have to say at this stage.

This will have serious consequences for public health, the damage they have caused to six months of public health policy is irreversible now and people are just going to do whatever they want just like FFG did.

McMurphy

Muahahaha wrote: »

jaysis I always knew FG and FF in power together would be a car crash but this has turned into an absolute holy mess, people are raging at them.

Whats worse is they have now totally undermined any government advice on restrictions. People who were following the guidelines are just going to go fcuk this, why bother when FFG are making mugs out of all of us. Similar to the Domnic Cummings affair in the UK the behaviour of FFG here has now legitimised others not following the restrictions. Tipp might be the next county for a local lockdown but if FFG call it they just have no credibility anymore to tell anyone what to do and people will ignore it. Kildare are getting a further two weeks of lockdown later today but why would residents there even listen to anything FFG have to say at this stage.

This will have serious consequences for public health, the damage they have caused to six months of public health policy is irreversible now and people are just going to do whatever they want just like FFG did.

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BonnieSituation

Shefwedfan wrote: »

This is the question, I think I asked this yesterday. I have had no response.


It's similar as everyday on here. Complaining about everything with zero alternatives. No alternative plan


Hurlers in the ditch.

Because you'd never dodge a question yourself.

Do you think the government have handled things well the last few weeks?

If not, what would you have done differently?

James Brown

markodaly wrote: »

SF are in government in the North remember, and they want to be in government in the south.

What do you think of our government's performance on Covid. Do they seem to think they know better than NPHET?

is_that_so

Muahahaha wrote: »

jaysis I always knew FG and FF in power together would be a car crash but this has turned into an absolute holy mess, people are raging at them.

Whats worse is they have now totally undermined any government advice on restrictions. People who were following the guidelines are just going to go fcuk this, why bother when FFG are making mugs out of all of us. Similar to the Domnic Cummings affair in the UK the behaviour of FFG here has now legitimised others not following the restrictions. Tipp might be the next county for a local lockdown but if FFG call it they just have no credibility anymore to tell anyone what to do and people will ignore it. Kildare are getting a further two weeks of lockdown later today but why would residents there even listen to anything FFG have to say at this stage.

This will have serious consequences for public health, the damage they have caused to six months of public health policy is irreversible now and people are just going to do whatever they want just like FFG did.

I think it's more of lack of cohesion, people trying too hard to impress and solo runs on COVID-19. Calleary & Buttimer carry-on was so obviously inexcusable you'd wonder why they could possibly miss it.

FF stupidly keep losing ministers. I think Ms Foley is next in the crosshairs, if anything goes wrong with the schools "plan".

FrancieBrady

Shefwedfan wrote: »

:P
Francie, what are you talking about? so you now think a Garda escort is a baby sitting service for politicians so they can tell them wrong/right?


Are we back to the Nazi party when the Gestapo would kill people for stepping out of line, is that the plan if SF ever got into power.....:P


This is hillarious how you come up with this, the TD was on holidays, it was a private function. Why would a Garda escort get involved if they even where part of his detail that night?


This is baffling

A garda assisting someone in breaking regs Shef? No issue?

Lol.

James Brown

FrancieBrady wrote: »

A garda assisting someone in breaking regs Shef? No issue?

Lol.

The Garda allowed this happen. Every level of the state was present except Michael D.. They couldn't give a flying ****.

blanch152

Bowie wrote: »

What do you think of our government's performance on Covid. Do they seem to think they know better than NPHET?

They seem to know better than the government in the North, anyhow.

Floppybits

blanch152 wrote: »

They seem to know better than the government in the North, anyhow.

You know you are onto a lower when that is your only comeback. I think you have scrapped through the bottom of the barrel and are digging a hole.

Scoundrel

blanch152 wrote: »

They are hiding in case someone asks why are Mary-Lou and Pearse still their representatives after breaking the lockdown rules to go to the show pageant funeral of the good republican up North.

Oh dear oh dear this is all ye have left getting desperate now

FrancieBrady

Emerging locally here that Paudge Connolly (FF genepool Ind) was playing in Spain with the Oireachtas group on 8th August...no quarantine.

Hawthorn Tree

Floppybits wrote: »

You know you are onto a lower when that is your only comeback. I think you have scrapped through the bottom of the barrel and are digging a hole.

Do a find on all Blanch152's posts today.

Every single one mentions SF and/or the IRA.

He is cracking up.

Brendan Bendar

Hawthorn Tree wrote: »

Do a find on all Blanch152's posts today.

Every single one mentions SF and/or the IRA.

He is cracking up.

Nah

He’s correctly going after you, dude.

Getting to you eh?

BonnieSituation

blanch152 wrote: »

They seem to know better than the government in the North, anyhow.

Would you cop on. You'd think you'd at least castigate FF every 5 or 6 posts.

We geddit, Sinn Féin = bad.