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    #692
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users Posts: 16,583 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Snow Garden wrote: »
    I know, I wish the SDs had more hard working and honest TDs like Alan Farrell, Maria Bailey and Dara Murphy (where are all those fake expenses now?).

    Well thats the party you said you voted for, so maybe ask yourself that or are you assuming I'm a member of FG.

    I'm not btw I am not aligned to any of the big parties.

    I'm guessing you do realise the SDs are going nowhere.


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    #693
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    dundalkfc10 wrote: »
    FG Seats 2011 = 76
    FG Seats 2016 = 50
    FG Seats 2020 = 35

    Leos spell as leader summed up, thats leaving out the homeless and healthcare crisis in the country


    You do know Leo took over in 2017?


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    #694
    ELM327
    Registered Users Posts: 22,001 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    You do know Leo took over in 2017?
    Never let facts get in the way of a good shinnerbot :D:D


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    #695
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Snow Garden wrote: »
    It will remind people how corrupt Fine Gael were when setting up Irish Water. And how wasteful it was. The dodgy contracts. The cronyism too.

    Remember this guy....he managed the Poolbeg disaster too.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/former-irish-water-director-got-570-000-retirement-package-1.3217419




    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/call-for-irish-water-boss-to-be-quizzed-on-poolbeg-project-30254848.html


    FG or FF didnt set up Irish water. It was part of the bailout they had to set it up


    You are aware of that?


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    #696
    dundalkfc10
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    The only people stopping SF getting into government is SF.....


    Not sure how you have missed that?

    Keep it up, must hurt that Mary Lou destroyed Leo in the elections


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    #697
    dundalkfc10
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    You do know Leo took over in 2017?

    Yes in just 3 years he has lost FG 15 seats


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    #698
    ELM327
    Registered Users Posts: 22,001 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    dundalkfc10 wrote: »
    Keep it up, must hurt that Mary Lou destroyed Leo in the elections


    Well they both got elected, and their respective parties a similar number of seats. Pretty loose definition of "destroy".


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    #699
    Truthvader
    Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Truthvader


    McMurphy wrote: »
    It's possible that you won't have too long to wait.



    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/siteserv-case-request-for-extension-to-end-of-year-denied-1.4249970

    OK. Now at least I know what you are talking about. Would be very surprised if the FG crowd were involved in any favours to O'Brien of all people. In fairness to them anyone who was caught at anything before was immediately dumped from the party. If they have any wit at all and there is any cronyism etc they would be well advised to root it out themselves and get some internal housekeeping done before any investigation finds anything. Otherwise they really are same as the Haughey/Bertie Fianna Fail of old.

    My impression now is that FG and FF are pretty much the same bar you have the lingering suspicion that FF will eventually do a deal with Sinn Fein maybe not this time round but soon.


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    #700
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,179 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    You do know Leo took over in 2017?

    50-35=15

    He led them to lose 15 seats, their worst result ever at a general election.


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    #701
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    ELM327 wrote: »
    Never let facts get in the way of a good shinnerbot :D:D


    Its f**king gas, I went off to work and come back....how many incorrect posts are on this thread?


    People accuse me of not knowing but really they haven't a f**king clue what is going on.


    Like Irish Water, that was part of the bailout it had to be created, how the f**k do people not realize this?


    The big issue was during the boom, FF and Bertie(Good Man Bertie), put in that Ireland would never have to pay for water, cant remember exact details, thats why everyone went mad because the EU had pushed down to change a law in Ireland......


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    #702
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    smurgen wrote: »
    On first count Sinn Féin’s John Brady got 17,297 25% of the vote in the constituency. Three FG candidates got 15,384 combined and two got eliminated. Great success!

    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/election-2020/wicklow/

    On first count:

    Brady - 17,297

    Harris - 8,765
    Doyle - 4,940
    Timmins - 4,670

    Which equals 18,384, according to the link you provided.

    Even the link to back up your bullsh*t says you’re lying, or you can’t count, or both.

    Regardless of how many votes he got, John Brady got elected to the Dail, as did Simon Harris. FG still got more votes than SF.


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    #703
    Snow Garden
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    StackSteevens wrote: »
    Have you read that the Soc Dems' half-leaderette Catherine Murphy has refused to co-operate with the tribunal into Siteserv/DOB that she was instrumental in having set up?

    So €34m of taxpayers' funds is heading down the swanee while she continues to park her fat backside on the fence - and pretends to be morally superior to the other members of the Dail.

    If a SF/FF/FG TD had tried that stunt, social media would have exploded.

    Yes she is protecting her sources. This commission was supposed to complete in 2015 ffs. It's a complete sham. I am sure they can get to the truth without her ;)

    She is right to protect her resources after years of kicking this can down the road. It was a Fine Gael TD who said in relation to Irish Water that "he felt that there were forces at work with agendas to privatise the utility company." He said he remains “deeply concerned at other agendas".


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    #704
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    50-35=15

    He led them to lose 15 seats, their worst result ever at a general election.


    The poster stuck up since 2011, Leo is in from 2017....the post made no sense....no idea why you are responding either?


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    #705
    ELM327
    Registered Users Posts: 22,001 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Truthvader wrote: »
    OK. Now at least I know what you are talking about. Would be very surprised if the FG crowd were involved in any favours to O'Brien of all people. In fairness to them anyone who was caught at anything before was immediately dumped from the party. If they have any wit at all and there is any cronyism etc they would be well advised to root it out themselves and get some internal housekeeping done before any investigation finds anything. Otherwise they really are same as the Haughey/Bertie Fianna Fail of old.

    My impression now is that FG and FF are pretty much the same bar you have the lingering suspicion that FF will eventually do a deal with Sinn Fein maybe not this time round but soon.


    When you have a 1:1:1 ratio of votes between the three biggest parties, consolidation is the next logical step.
    The only logical consolidation to rule out is FG+SF.


    We could see FFFG or FFSF created from this as the main party in Ireland.


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    #706
    ELM327
    Registered Users Posts: 22,001 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Its f**king gas, I went off to work and come back....how many incorrect posts are on this thread?


    People accuse me of not knowing but really they haven't a f**king clue what is going on.


    Like Irish Water, that was part of the bailout it had to be created, how the f**k do people not realize this?


    The big issue was during the boom, FF and Bertie(Good Man Bertie), put in that Ireland would never have to pay for water, cant remember exact details, thats why everyone went mad because the EU had pushed down to change a law in Ireland......
    I think you not unlike myself have a posting style that people deem provocative.


    Even when you're right, as in this case :D


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    #707
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    dundalkfc10 wrote: »
    Keep it up, must hurt that Mary Lou destroyed Leo in the elections


    I don't support FG.....


    Its a pity you are living in reality....where was all these SF politicians from Feb to May?? all out now shouting on RTE again.....you tell me, why was that?


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    #708
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    ELM327 wrote: »
    I think you not unlike myself have a posting style that people deem provocative.


    Even when you're right, as in this case :D


    I get to the point, some lads on here think they are writing a f**king novel :P:P


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    #709
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,179 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    The poster stuck up since 2011, Leo is in from 2017....the post made no sense....no idea why you are responding either?

    Was Leo a senior member of government since 2011? Yes he was. Keep deflecting to some pedantry to deny where he has led them.

    At least Enda gained seats in 2011. Leo has nothing but failure as a party leader to show for his tenure.


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    #710
    Truthvader
    Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Truthvader


    dundalkfc10 wrote: »
    Keep it up, must hurt that Mary Lou destroyed Leo in the elections

    Yep it hurts that every fourth person you meet lacked the basic decency not to vote for an organisation that carried out a campaign of death and maiming for 30 years only stopping when they were bought off . You are 100% correct


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    #711
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users Posts: 16,574 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    it might have something to do with :

    FG Promises 2011 : cut the quangos
    FG Promises 2016 : abolish USC, welfare cheat clampdown
    FG Promises 2020 : Tax Cuts and more tax cuts.

    FG Deliveries : free for all abortions, marriage equality, more taxes and more dole and the dole Christmas bonus back.

    if FG actually just gave up on any more social 'progress' for twitter likes and delivered even 1 meaningful tax cut, they'd be voted for a hell of a lot more by those in Ireland who work.
    Idbatterim wrote: »
    Its absolute comedy ! Fg are more interested in serving those they will never receive vote, than wiring people. One of the reasons thsy lost a large amount if seats at the election

    Who were people switching their votes to in 2016 and 2020 that they thought were more likely to deliver tax cuts and other 'right wing' policies?


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    #712
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Was Leo a senior member of government since 2011? Yes he was. Keep deflecting to some pedantry to deny where he has led them.

    At least Enda gained seats in 2011. Leo has nothing but failure as a party leader to show for his tenure.


    Oh I agree Leo reign has been a disaster, the moment he moved the children hospital from his own area it went downhill



    Still doesnt change the fact the original post was wrong.


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    #713
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,179 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    I don't support FG.....


    Its a pity you are living in reality....where was all these SF politicians from Feb to May?? all out now shouting on RTE again.....you tell me, why was that?

    So far...that is all FG and FF and the Greens have been doing.

    Some of us see the PfG for what it is...128 days of wishful thinking and the creation of unimplementable fantasy to woo a Green party into making the same mistake it has made before.

    If they succeed in wooing the Greens it will only copperfasten the demise of one of them...grab your popcorn because it's going to be fascinating politics.


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    #714
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Truthvader wrote: »
    Yep it hurts that every fourth person you meet lacked the basic decency not to vote for an organisation that carried out a campaign of death and maiming for 30 years only stopping when they were bought off . You are 100% correct


    Unfortunealty they are still up to it today.....with of course SF still hiding it for them


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/questions-over-paul-quinn-murder-follow-mcdonald-to-rt%C3%A9-debate-1.4162379?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2Fquestions-over-paul-quinn-murder-follow-mcdonald-to-rt%25C3%25A9-debate-1.4162379


    Mary Lou covering up for her lies here....disgrace.....


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    #715
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,179 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Oh I agree Leo reign has been a disaster, the moment he moved the children hospital from his own area it went downhill



    Still doesnt change the fact the original post was wrong.

    It wasn't, because within it is the truth of the statement. As a senior minister and as a leader Leo's delivery for FG has been a disaster.


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    #716
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    So far...that is all FG and FF and the Greens have been doing.

    Some of us see the PfG for what it is...128 days of wishful thinking and the creation of unimplementable fantasy to woo a Green party into making the same mistake it has made before.

    If they succeed in wooing the Greens it will only copperfasten the demise of one of them...grab your popcorn because it's going to be fascinating politics.


    Are you DundalkFC10?


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    #717
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,179 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Unfortunealty they are still up to it today.....with of course SF still hiding it for them


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/questions-over-paul-quinn-murder-follow-mcdonald-to-rt%C3%A9-debate-1.4162379?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2Fquestions-over-paul-quinn-murder-follow-mcdonald-to-rt%25C3%25A9-debate-1.4162379


    Mary Lou covering up for her lies here....disgrace.....

    Things must be getting desperate, let's exploit a victim again.


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    #718
    Yurt2
    Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Shefwedfan wrote: »


    People accuse me of not knowing but really they haven't a f**king clue what is going on.

    It's not an accusation. You don't know what you're on about. Your comments about the Presidency and powers require no further elaboration. That series of posts could only come from someone talking through their hat thinking they're a clever boy, but are actually hilariously wrong.


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    #719
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    It wasn't, because within it is the truth of the statement. As a senior minister and as a leader Leo's delivery for FG has been a disaster.

    Read the post.....

    dundalkfc10 wrote: »
    FG Seats 2011 = 76
    FG Seats 2016 = 50
    FG Seats 2020 = 35

    Leos spell as leader summed up, thats leaving out the homeless and healthcare crisis in the country


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    #720
    Yurt2
    Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Are you DundalkFC10?

    "Not a Fine Gael supporter"

    Of course


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    #721
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,179 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Read the post.....

    Yes...Leo's spell as leader was in there. 2017 until the GE.

    You are just being a pedant in order to deflect from the point.


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