FF/FG/Green Next Government

BQQ

Bannasidhe wrote: »

I have no idea what Bannasheide thinks but I think It's FG's to lose. It's 'their' seat.

I am disagreeing with you saying FF can win it. I explained why - you continued explaining why you thought FF could.
SF might pull it off...

You have no idea what you yourself thinks?

Edit: Oops! Just noticed the misspelling
Apologies

Bannasidhe

blanch152 wrote: »

Yeah, I kind of guessed something like this was in the air from Clare Daly’s interview, it was clear she felt some entitlement to come and go from Ireland to Brussels without quarantining.

Yet it was govt MEPs who expressed such sense of entitlement

MEPs Billy Kelleher (Fianna Fáil), Seán Kelly (Fine Gael), and Ciarán Cuffe (Green Party) have written a joint-letter to the Taoiseach Micheál Martin to ask for MEPs to be made exempt from the 14-day quarantine if they receive a negative Covid-19 test result before and after travel.

https://www.thejournal.ie/meps-write-to-taoiseach-about-quarantine-rules-5191146-Sep2020/

You swung and missed there Blanch.

blanch152

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Yet it was govt MEPs who expressed such sense of entitlement

https://www.thejournal.ie/meps-write-to-taoiseach-about-quarantine-rules-5191146-Sep2020/

You swung and missed there Blanch.

Nope, I think some of our MEPs have been coming and going without quarantining for some time. Let it all come out.

The three lads are trying to cover their arses on this, Ms. Daly felt EP rules overruled Irish ones.

Unlike others around here, I haven’t defended any politician who breached COVID guidelines.

Bannasidhe

blanch152 wrote: »

Nope, I think some of our MEPs have been coming and going without quarantining for some time. Let it all come out.

The three lads are trying to cover their arses on this, Ms. Daly felt EP rules overruled Irish ones.

Unlike others around here, I haven’t defended any politician who breached COVID guidelines.

Neither have I.

I am simply commenting on you going straight to Clare Daly's apparent sense of entitlement when an article was posted saying MEPs from Govt parties wrote a letter asking for an exception.

Bannasidhe

Examiner (or De Paper as we call it in Cork) saying there are 'unexpected delays' in naming the new Commissioner. Apparently Ryan is not going along with "let's just send Coveney" and wants a female named as well as per requested.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40040984.html

They really couldn't organised a fight in a bun factory.

FrancieBrady

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Neither have I.

I am simply commenting on you going straight to Clare Daly's apparent sense of entitlement when an article was posted saying MEPs from Govt parties wrote a letter asking for an exception.

Fairly evident in the thread that the continual pointing at selected others whenever a FG member of government is in the spotlight is a form of defence. Some posters want to talk about anything else other than the transgression relevant at the time.

Exemptions are being handed out by the government...given their track record, it is no surprise there is confusion about the detail of them.

StackSteevens

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Examiner (or De Paper as we call it in Cork) saying there are 'unexpected delays' in naming the new Commissioner. Apparently Ryan is not going along with "let's just send Coveney" and wants a female named as well as per requested.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40040984.html

They really couldn't organised a fight in a bun factory.

I have a very strong objection to the President of the EU Commission trying to influence a sovereign member state in its nomination of its EU Commissioner.

The nomination is entirely our call and she should politely and very firmly be told to back off and mind her own business.

If the clueless postering Green sprouts get their way then there's no point in any Irishman accepting a nomination, as Ursula is going to pick the woman.

However, if Ireland wants to highlight Ursula's stupidiy, then we should call her bluff and nominate Maria Bailey.

Floppybits

StackSteevens wrote: »

I have a very strong objection to the President of the EU Commission trying to influence a sovereign member state in its nomination of its EU Commissioner.

The nomination is entirely our call and she should politely and very firmly be told to back off and mind her own business.

If the clueless postering Green sprouts get their way then there's no point in any Irishman accepting a nomination, as Ursula is going to pick the woman.

However, if Ireland wants to highlight Ursula's stupidiy, then we should call her bluff and nominate Maria Bailey.

I have no problem with the government nominating both Coveney and McGuinness, [probably the only 2 worthy of the nomination. Both are capable of the job and are in good standing in the Europe. Whichever one gets the nomination will be a good choice.

JohnnyFlash

We should nominate Luke ‘Ming’ Flanagan for the laugh.

Loafing Oaf

StackSteevens wrote: »

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However, if Ireland wants to highlight Ursula's stupidiy, then we should call her bluff and nominate Maria Bailey.

Yeah was going to suggest her or maybe Michelle Mulherin if they really want Coveney to get the gig

touts

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Examiner (or De Paper as we call it in Cork) saying there are 'unexpected delays' in naming the new Commissioner. Apparently Ryan is not going along with "let's just send Coveney" and wants a female named as well as per requested.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40040984.html

They really couldn't organised a fight in a bun factory.

A Green Party member told me that there are three positions available and the hold up is they want one. Minister for Agriculture and the two Commissioner nominations. The line up he said Eamonn Ryan is fignting for is

Agriculture: FF Nomination
Commission Nominations: FG Nomination and Green Nomination.

In the event that FG pick Simon Covney for the Commission job then the Greens are insisting that Catherine Martin will be the second nomination.

In the event that FG pick Mairead McGuinness then the Greens are insisting that Eamonn Ryan will be the second nomination.

In the event that FG insist on nominating the two commission positions and a FF Junior Minister gets promoted to Agriculture then the Greens want
one of their own to get that Junior slot. It depends on the role but Francis Duffy is the front runner.

Take that any way you want. The guy I was talking to was a member of their National Exec but isn't any more. He is a bit on the hardline of their party. He wanted Catherine Martin to be leader and did not want to go into government at all.

Bannasidhe

StackSteevens wrote: »

I have a very strong objection to the President of the EU Commission trying to influence a sovereign member state in its nomination of its EU Commissioner.

The nomination is entirely our call and she should politely and very firmly be told to back off and mind her own business.

If the clueless postering Green sprouts get their way then there's no point in any Irishman accepting a nomination, as Ursula is going to pick the woman.

However, if Ireland wants to highlight Ursula's stupidiy, then we should call her bluff and nominate Maria Bailey.

Because that is the hill we want to fight on?
Really?

The job is not the right of an 'Irishman' - there is no reason an Irishwoman can't do the job just as well.
Bailey would more than likely be rejected as unsuitable due to lack of experience so that 'bluff' would be a pointless and stupid own goal.
Did we learned nothing from sending Dustin to Eurovision?

Floppybits

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Fairly evident in the thread that the continual pointing at selected others whenever a FG member of government is in the spotlight is a form of defence. Some posters want to talk about anything else other than the transgression relevant at the time.

Exemptions are being handed out by the government...given their track record, it is no surprise there is confusion about the detail of them.

Seems to be the only response supporters of the parties in government have at the moment.

StackSteevens

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Because that is the hill we want to fight on?
Really?

The job is not the right of an 'Irishman' - there is no reason an Irishwoman can't do the job just as well.
Bailey would more than likely be rejected as unsuitable due to lack of experience so that 'bluff' would be a pointless and stupid own goal.
Did we learned nothing from sending Dustin to Eurovision?

My objection isn't about whether it's a male or female - it's about the President of the EU Commission attempting to interfere with a Member State's right to nominate the candidate or candidates that it wants to - without interference from anyone.

This time around, Frau Van Der Fertility Drugs wants a boy and a girl to be nominated; give in to her and who knows, next time around she might demand that we nominate a left-handed vegan transvestite and a one-legged lap dancer from Sligo, so she can choose who she wants.

She needs to be told - firmly - to back off.

Bannasidhe

StackSteevens wrote: »

My objection isn't about whether it's a male or female - it's about the President of the EU Commission attempting to interfere with a Member State's right to nominate the candidate or candidates that it wants to - without interference from anyone.

This time around, Frau Van Der Fertility Drugs wants a boy and a girl to be nominated; give in to her and who knows, next time around she might demand that we nominate a left-handed vegan transvestite and a one-legged lap dancer from Sligo, so she can choose who she wants.

She needs to be told - firmly - to back off.

Tbh having read your descriptions of female politicians [another example in this post] I suspect you very much have an objection to women in politics.

Either way you can park your objection as RTE are reporting 2 candidates are being put forward. I would just love to see your face if it was McGuinness and Fitzgerald.

FrancieBrady

StackSteevens wrote: »

My objection isn't about whether it's a male or female - it's about the President of the EU Commission attempting to interfere with a Member State's right to nominate the candidate or candidates that it wants to - without interference from anyone.

This time around, Frau Van Der Fertility Drugs wants a boy and a girl to be nominated; give in to her and who knows, next time around she might demand that we nominate a left-handed vegan transvestite and a one-legged lap dancer from Sligo, so she can choose who she wants.

She needs to be told - firmly - to back off.

She 'asked' that we nominate 2...not demanded.
It's been a keynote of hers since she got the job herself. Calm down.

James Brown

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

We should nominate Luke ‘Ming’ Flanagan for the laugh.

He'd be better than Frances. That would be a tragedy rather than a comedy, maybe both actually.

blanch152

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

We should nominate Luke ‘Ming’ Flanagan for the laugh.

If we nominate Clare Daly and Mick Wallace, the EU get two for the price of one, and they disappear from our view. Wins all round.

Scoundrel

Only in Ireland would someone like Frances Fitzgerald who was central to one of the most disgraceful scandals in the history of the state be nominated for such a role. It just goes to show Ireland isn't an old boys club the old girls get in as well.

Will the EU allow Terry Prone to do all of her work over there I wonder?

Floppybits

I heard Joespha Madigan was a disaster on the Tonight show last night, one of her quotes was “There’s a grave and public threat to life with pubs”. We really have a poor choice of politicians on both sides of the house.

McMurphy

Floppybits wrote: »

I heard Joespha Madigan was a disaster on the Tonight show last night, one of her quotes was “There’s a grave and public threat to life with pubs”. We really have a poor choice of politicians on both sides of the house.

Any pub, or just the ones with swings in them that her client badly hurt herself in?

dundalkfc10

Floppybits wrote: »

I heard Joespha Madigan was a disaster on the Tonight show last night, one of her quotes was “There’s a grave and public threat to life with pubs”. We really have a poor choice of politicians on both sides of the house.

It was car crash TV, she never answered 1 question

James Brown

McMurphy wrote: »

Any pub, or just the ones with swings in them that her client badly hurt herself in?

It's ones without food.
Not all chicken wings give Covid number 19 immunity. You need dip the barbecue wings, (must be BBQ) in sauce and you are good to go golfing/drinking/have a house party.

Scoundrel

Floppybits wrote: »

I heard Joespha Madigan was a disaster on the Tonight show last night, one of her quotes was “There’s a grave and public threat to life with pubs”. We really have a poor choice of politicians on both sides of the house.

It's absolute nonsense at this stage there must be a puritanical streak still at heart of government the spirit of McQuaid must still be lingering.

Every other EU country has opened their pubs the sky hasn't fallen in.

Hawthorn Tree

The Ceann Comhairle gave the Clifden Elite both barrels in the Dail today.

Ceann Comhairle Seán Ó Fearghaíl has said everyone makes mistakes, but what happened at the Oireachtas Golfing Society in Clifden was the result of a "collective crass stupidity ... or arrogant delusion ... or both".

He said the event organised by the "self-styled" Oireachtas Golfing Society last month should never have happened.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0902/1162800-clifden-golf-dinner/

Brendan Bendar

Scoundrel wrote: »

It's absolute nonsense at this stage there must be a puritanical streak still at heart of government the spirit of McQuaid must still be lingering.

Every other EU country has opened their pubs the sky hasn't fallen in.

Not true.

Glasgow.... lock down

Spain... big spike

Germany... big spike.

Look what happened in Jays gaff..... Killarney..... Kilkee.......Skerries.

The pot-bellied tankers are starting to get restless.....uhmmm

Hawthorn Tree

Charlie McConalogue (FF) is the new minister for Agriculture.

I think he should just stay at home for a month. Safest.

RandomViewer

Hawthorn Tree wrote: »

Charlie McConalogue (FF) is the new minister for Agriculture.

I think he should just stay at home for a month. Safest.

Would be safest, maybe disconnect phone ,WiFi and telly and not read any newspapers either,

Hubertj

Hawthorn Tree wrote: »

Charlie McConalogue (FF) is the new minister for Agriculture.

I think he should just stay at home for a month. Safest.

as long as he isn't a drinker or golfer he should get past the month

Scoundrel

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Not true.

Glasgow.... lock down

Spain... big spike

Germany... big spike.

Look what happened in Jays gaff..... Killarney..... Kilkee.......Skerries.

The pot-bellied tankers are starting to get restless.....uhmmm

My pot belly and I are quite happy to drink at home but its ridiculous that we are they only country with pubs closed give them a chance like every other industry has been given.