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dundalkfc10

Another cluster from a Meat Plant, the same Meat Plants they stopped testing in as they needed resources in other areas but we were told yesterday they are doing enough tests as needed at minute

dundalkfc10

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Another cluster from a Meat Plant, the same Meat Plants they stopped testing in as they needed resources in other areas but we were told yesterday they are doing enough tests as needed at minute

Source, please.

smurgen

So 28 cases from the one meat factory in Waterford. So a good chance that all the covid cases in the county linked to a meat plant cluster yet we had folks in here defending the stopping of testing in meat plants.

https://twitter.com/Michelle_Byrne_/status/1306305655922450432?s=19

Nevin Parsnipp

blanch152 wrote: »

At the moment the pubs in Dublin are closed, like all of the pubs in the country, even though all of the country is on Level 2. So you could ask the same question of all of the pubs in the country today, rather than Dublin pubs next week.

The reason for that is the difference between the long-term plan and the current situation, and that you have to manage appropriately a transition from the current situation to the long-term plan. Most of the country slots immediately into Level 2. Dublin is in a curious situation in that as part of the transition, it is not immediately clear whether it should be in Level 2 or Level 3.

Simple enough once you apply a little bit of brain to it. Sure it wasn't explained very well, but I quickly grasped what was going on.

Well said Poster ...

dundalkfc10

Deleted User wrote: »

Source, please.

You have your source now. So what do you think of the monumental **** up by Govt/HSE is suspending testing at these plants?
When everyone else was saying how mad it was, they tried the usual nothing to see here it's fine, we know what we are doing. Yet again it's proved they don't know what they are doing

dundalkfc10

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

You have your source now. So what do you think of the monumental **** up by Govt/HSE is suspending testing at these plants?
When everyone else was saying how mad it was, they tried the usual nothing to see here it's fine, we know what we are doing. Yet again it's proved they don't know what they are doing

Thanks. Testing was only temporarily suspended. How else would they know that some were testing positive? No matter what the government do, they’ll still be in the wrong.

dundalkfc10

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Thanks. Testing was only temporarily suspended. How else would they know that some were testing positive? No matter what the government do, they’ll still be in the wrong.

They were told with the conditions the workers live in, are brought to work and how they are on top of each other in work that they should not suspend them.

Another **** up

James Brown

Deleted User wrote: »

Thanks. Testing was only temporarily suspended. How else would they know that some were testing positive? No matter what the government do, they’ll still be in the wrong.

Read like it's ongoing Maryanne. The journo has been chasing Dawn Meats for two weeks looking for comment.

The Waterford News & Star has repeatedly been in contact with Dawn Meats to confirm or deny if the cluster was related to their plant but after two weeks of questioning they have still not commented. link

We've seen the crammed buses and with previous, why stop the blanket testing at all?
So we only find out if people have covid if there's blanket testing at their workplace? Is it not more likely testing stopped, but people were still getting sick? The idea they were testing found cases. Stopped. Then resumed doesn't sound logical. Not saying logic comes into it mind.
Seemingly the staff were told to say nothing by management. Always wise to keep info like that quiet to save face, more important than tracing and tackling a virus :rolleyes:

Peter and John Queally set up Dawn Meats with partner Dan Browne in 1980. Shares are split amongst family members, with majority ownership having resided until recently in IMMOL Ltd,[3] a British Virgin Islands company.[4][5]
The majority of the group's subsidiaries are unlimitedWikipedia-W.svg, which means they do not have to file accounts, and thus offer great secrecy. The strategic use of tax havens such as the Isle of Man and Luxembourg also help to cloak the enterprise's owners - and its true profits.
The Queally Group stands out for its astonishing secretiveness; every possible filing exemption has been made in order to avoid as much disclosure as possible, despite its being in receipt of very juicy grants from the Irish govt, the UK govt, and the EU. link

Now I'm not saying I've the health knowhow of a mechanical engineering student (Donnelly) or a journalism drop out (Harris), but I'd come down on Dawn Meats and their off shore tax resident sweat shop worker ways like a hammer.

Allowances made for business to the detriment of the public. That's our FF/FG party alright.

dundalkfc10

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They have made an absolute balls of opening the country

There have been confirmed cases at this plant since monday evening,its still open....

its a fcuking farce

Look at social media, confusion
Other TDs, confusion
Talking to people around you, Confusion
Certain FF and FG TDs confusion

FF and FG Clearest messages we have gave yet.

That's not adding in fact, there's no plan what to do if a member of cabinet gets a positive test.

You couldn't make it up

dundalkfc10

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

They were told with the conditions the workers live in, are brought to work and how they are on top of each other in work that they should not suspend them.

Another **** up

Soooo, the government are responsible for how workers live? What about personal responsibility?

How, if testing was suspended long term, did they find people positive?

It’s up to each and every one of us to ensure our own safety and well-being. Are we so immature that we cannot think for ourselves?

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

They have made a mess of whole thing

Waterford no cases for weeks,now upon opening up,with fcuk all support...we are on brink of a lockdown....and 28 cases in a meat plant and its let open all week


They are to blame for this mess,noone else

Soooo. The Irish government are responsible for Covid. Shaggers.

dundalkfc10

Deleted User wrote: »

Soooo. The Irish government are responsible for Covid. Shaggers.

They are responsible that the meat factory wasn't forced to shut.

Hawthorn Tree

Tonight Show is good. They are trying to understand the government communications disaster. Roisin Shortall doing well. The opposition
must be starting to pity the government at this point. They are being handed votes too easy with almost weekly screw ups.
Some talk about a FF parliamentary party meeting where Cough Donnelly and MM are blaming the media for the poor communications
It was a live press conference you muppets!! The disastrous Q&A was live too!!

You'd have to wonder if Donnelly faked the cough to escape the onslaught.

Cowboys Ted.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

This is what it amounts too....absolute arrogance anyone worried or speak out about this absolute bollocks of a situation is to be sniggered at

No one is sniggering. Just can’t understand why the idea of personal responsibility is being ignored. We’re told by posters here that testing wasn’t taking place, yet we are being informed by the same posters of numerous positives! Someone is telling porkies.

James Brown

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Soooo, the government are responsible for how workers live? What about personal responsibility?

How, if testing was suspended long term, did they find people positive?

It’s up to each and every one of us to ensure our own safety and well-being. Are we so immature that we cannot think for ourselves?

So following on from your comments. The government were the ones discovered the cluster in the meat plant...allowed it orperate regardless and only admitted it due to a journo breaking the story?

We know Donnelly is incapable anyway.

We cannot rely on private business to put whats best for society above their profits. Something FG either won't learn or couldn't give two ****s about. FF? written off years ago. Greens? Expected better.

Redgirl82

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Soooo. The Irish government are responsible for Covid. Shaggers.

Seemingly

Redgirl82

[Deleted User] wrote: »

They have made a mess of whole thing

Waterford no cases for weeks,now upon opening up,with fcuk all support...we are on brink of a lockdown....and 28 cases in a meat plant and its let open all week


They are to blame for this mess,noone else

No the government are not to blame. Unless they drove down and injected covid into people in Waterford or anywhere in Ireland. I expect they haven’t so if an out break is happening in any part of the country that’s because people are not following the guidelines

If people are too stupid to follow guidelines then no hope for them. Doesn’t make a difference who is in government

Do you understand?

FrancieBrady

Redgirl82 wrote: »

Seemingly

But if the Shinners fail to observe social distancing at a funeral...shock horror 'they are responsible for the spread of covid'. Yes...you are responsible for the spread if you knowingly **** up.

They ****ed up with meat plants - why? Incompetence? Vested interests? You decide.

dundalkfc10

Redgirl82 wrote: »

No the government are not to blame. Unless they drove down and injected covid into people in Waterford or anywhere in Ireland. I expect they haven’t so if an out break is happening in any part of the country that’s because people are not following the guidelines

If people are too stupid to follow guidelines then no hope for them. Doesn’t make a difference who is in government

Do you understand?

The Govt knew about the cases, They never forced the factory to close until inspections, cleaning took place.

You can defend them all you want but they failed here.

I suppose that the government are responsible for this too? https://waterford-news.ie/2020/09/16/another-confirmed-covid-19-case-at-city-secondary-school/

dundalkfc10

No because they have a plan in schools that seems to be working so far.

Your just looking to cause an argument now.

Back to the previous questions about meat plants, do you not agree the Govt when they knew cases had come from the Meat Plant should have made sure it was dealt with ASAP cause you can bet your life if it was a pub it would have Gardaí on premises as soon as cases were known

dundalkfc10

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

No because they have a plan in schools that seems to be working so far.

Your just looking to cause an argument now.

Back to the previous questions about meat plants, do you not agree the Govt when they knew cases had come from the Meat Plant should have made sure it was dealt with ASAP cause you can bet your life if it was a pub it would have Gardaí on premises as soon as cases were known

They were dealt with. Deep cleaning and new work practices. But, as the principal of the school said, personal responsibility has to come in to play.

dundalkfc10

Deleted User wrote: »

They were dealt with. Deep cleaning and new work practices. But, as the principal of the school said, personal responsibility has to come in to play.

The Meat Plant in Waterford was dealt with? Its still open ffs, The Govt have known about cases in it a good few days now but its been dealt with, alls good

Hawthorn Tree

Dublin will be at Level 3 by the weekend which makes the midweek press conference look like a complete joke.

FrancieBrady

Hawthorn Tree wrote: »

Dublin will be at Level 3 by the weekend which makes the midweek press conference look like a complete joke.

More dithering and capitulating to vested interests.
A child could see what needed to be done in Dublin, but apparently their economic viability is more important than the economic viability of the rest of the country.

Brendan Bendar

FrancieBrady wrote: »

More dithering and capitulating to vested interests.
A child could see what needed to be done in Dublin, but apparently their economic viability is more important than the economic viability of the rest of the country.

The diesel washing industry is on its knees, what are the Gubbermint doing, I say.

Should at least get refund on taxes....and vat.............oh wait....:cool:

Hawthorn Tree

FrancieBrady wrote: »

More dithering and capitulating to vested interests.
A child could see what needed to be done in Dublin, but apparently their economic viability is more important than the economic viability of the rest of the country.

They were actually afraid to do the right thing. It's a concern. A government more afraid of optics than anything else.

Dublin had to be softened up first. Shambles.

Coalition of Chaos.

dundalkfc10

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

The diesel washing industry is on its knees, what are the Gubbermint doing, I say.

Should at least get refund on taxes....and vat.............oh wait....:cool:

Can you write that in English?

FrancieBrady

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

The diesel washing industry is on its knees, what are the Gubbermint doing, I say.

Should at least get refund on taxes....and vat.............oh wait....:cool:

They're deflecting and pointing at themun's of course Brendan...fairly stock response when they are criticised.

Hawthorn Tree

BB is starting to look infantile now. There is now nothing of substance in his posts. Deflection only.