FF/FG/Green Next Government

FrancieBrady

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The wishes of the electorate? Like any election

Like the most recent election? The people have spoken. Half the elected TDs are attempting to form a government, while steering the country through the unprecedented pandemic. The other half are doing SFA.

Kermit.de.frog

This tweet reads like a parody

https://twitter.com/fintancox/status/1273670424677810177

Fianna Fail has destroyed the country on how many occasions?

Also FF has 'principles'?

lolol

FrancieBrady

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

This tweet reads like a parody

https://twitter.com/fintancox/status/1273670424677810177

Fianna Fail has destroyed the country on how many occasions?

Also FF has 'principles'?

lolol

That guy sounds like a complete loon...reading back his tweets is hilarious.

Shefwedfan

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

This tweet reads like a parody

https://twitter.com/fintancox/status/1273670424677810177

Fianna Fail has destroyed the country on how many occasions?

Also FF has 'principles'?

lolol

When have FF destroyed the country?

FrancieBrady

Deleted User wrote: »

Like the most recent election? The people have spoken. Half the elected TDs are attempting to form a government, while steering the country through the unprecedented pandemic. The other half are doing SFA.

Well up to a point you are correct.

What the electorate will make of the lies they were told and the make up of any government that is formed remains to be seen, and isn't known.


*FG had no choice but to 'steer' us through, the were constitutionally mandated to remain. Please stop portraying it as some superhuman effort.
Any party could and would have done it.

Snow Garden

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The wishes of the electorate? Like any election

Yeah the only logical government this year involves FF+FG and whoever. I believe most of the electorate want an end to the civil war sham. It will be a watershed moment for Irish politics.

Shefwedfan

Snow Garden wrote: »

Yeah the only logical government this year involves FF+FG and whoever. I believe most of the electorate want an end to the civil war sham. It will be a watershed moment for Irish politics.

I have no idea what the civil war sham is?

What percentage is “most of the electorate”?

Kermit.de.frog

Shefwedfan wrote: »

When have FF destroyed the country?

Every time they have been in govt they left the country bankrupt.

You should remember the last stint when the IMF had to take over in 2010.

The party should have been deleted.

McMurphy

FrancieBrady wrote: »

That guy sounds like a complete loon...reading back his tweets is hilarious.

He's the FF party's version of Seamus Bryson.

combat14

just seen on the indo that the greens are already talking about renegotiating the programme for government and they havent even entered govt yet....

sounds like a recipe for stability lol

is_that_so

Shefwedfan wrote: »

She is starting to make herself look like a bit of a gobsh*t if she was the main persn at the table and hasn't bothered to check the details

One might argue that it was really part of the sales pitch for waverers in the party. Politically, she hasn't been very surefooted of late. That she considers putting herself forward for the top seat does not bode well for the Greens.

ninebeanrows

FF should have completely rebranded after crashing the country. They could have ditched all the baggage rebranded as FF nua and could have returned as a big party of middle Ireland

Soon they will be consumed by FG

Wanderer78

Kermit.de.frog wrote:

Every time they have been in govt they left the country bankrupt.

Again it was in fact the banks that were bankrupt, the countries finances weren't too bad at the time, but it was indeed ff that encouraged the boom and the financial sector to reek havoc in our country

is_that_so

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Again it was in fact the banks that were bankrupt, the countries finances weren't too bad at the time, but it was indeed ff that encouraged the boom and the financial sector to reek havoc in our country

There were two phases to FF's time in power, real groat[sic] from 1997 to about 2002 and thereafter largely property driven. A real house of cards!

Snow Garden

Shefwedfan wrote: »

I have no idea what the civil war sham is?

What percentage is “most of the electorate”?

Sure you don't even know who setup Irish Water.

Read your history books. Also listen to Playback on Radio 1 this morning.

They had a good story about Lemass when he won the 1957 election. A US reporter asked whats the difference between FF and FG. He thought for a minute and said "We are in, they are out". Summed up the sham right there.

Truthvader

Snow Garden wrote: »

Sure you don't even know who setup Irish Water.

Read your history books. Also listen to Playback on Radio 1 this morning.

They had a good story about Lemass when he won the 1957 election. A US reporter asked whats the difference between FF and FG. He thought for a minute and said "We are in, they are out". Summed up the sham right there.

Thats good - and he knew in 1957. Lemass was a great Taoiseach

Truthvader

combat14 wrote: »

just seen on the indo that the greens are already talking about renegotiating the programme for government and they havent even entered govt yet....

sounds like a recipe for stability lol

Yep, flakey and hysterical. They dont even have the likes of John Gormley's self interest to keep them there until they secure their pension. Its the "knit your own yogurt" crowd and they will have a hissy fit and walk if a Minister uses a garden hose. Be surprised if it lasts a year. Plus Fianna Fail are pretty unwilling and it would be easy for them to provoke some twit in Greens to bring it all down

FrancieBrady

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Well up to a point you are correct.

What the electorate will make of the lies they were told and the make up of any government that is formed remains to be seen, and isn't known.


*FG had no choice but to 'steer' us through, the were constitutionally mandated to remain. Please stop portraying it as some superhuman effort.
Any party could and would have done it.

And what they make of the inaction of the party who got the highest percentage of first preference votes. Interesting times ahead.

Truthvader

Truthvader wrote: »

Thats good - and he knew in 1957. Lemass was a great Taoiseach

As was his son in law.

Truthvader

[Deleted User] wrote: »

As was his son in law.

He was a thief

FrancieBrady

Deleted User wrote: »

And what they make of the inaction of the party who got the highest percentage of first preference votes. Interesting times ahead.

I think most people are mature enough to see that a party representing 24/25% of the vote is being locked out after investigating viable options with a disparate group of smaller parties and independents of all hues.
They are mature enough that nobody in this attempt to form a government dared called the PfG credible. And mature enough to see that it is already being unraveled.

RandomViewer

is_that_so wrote: »

There were two phases to FF's time in power, real groat[sic] from 1997 to about 2002 and thereafter largely property driven. A real house of cards!

Anyone coming in after Johnny Bull was going to do well, still rated the worst Taoiseach even after Clowens efforts.

Truthvader

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I think most people are mature enough to see that a party representing 24/25% of the vote is being locked out after investigating viable options with a disparate group of smaller parties and independents of all hues.
They are mature enough that nobody in this attempt to form a government dared called the PfG credible. And mature enough to see that it is already being unraveled.

Poor Francie, you'll never get it. Like the man who thought that most secondary school kids would have an IRA poster over their bed you are so steeped in this nonsense you have lost touch with all reality.

No decent honest person will have anything to do with Sinn Fein nor would want to be responsible for letting them into any kind of power.

Faugheen

Sinn Fein don’t want to go into government anyway.

Truthvader

Faugheen wrote: »

Sinn Fein don’t want to go into government anyway.

In fairness this is not true. They are frantic to get their hands on power and vomiting rage that no-one will deal with them. They bombed and murdered their way to power in Norn Iron. Do you really think there is any scruple or principal that would hold them back here.

FrancieBrady

Truthvader wrote: »

Poor Francie, you'll never get it. Like the man who thought that most secondary school kids would have an IRA poster over their bed you are so steeped in this nonsense you have lost touch with all reality.

No decent honest person will have anything to do with Sinn Fein nor would want to be responsible for letting them into any kind of power.

What 'nonsense'?

That you call 25% of the electorate 'indecent and dishonest' is just bizarre when you look at what governments have been involved in here in the last 20 years alone.

We won't travel back a generation to laundries and homes for unmarried mothers etc etc because there is no need.

Shefwedfan

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Every time they have been in govt they left the country bankrupt.

You should remember the last stint when the IMF had to take over in 2010.

The party should have been deleted.

I think you need to read a bit of history

You do realise FF brought about one of the most prosperous times ever in Ireland which has continued on even after the recessions

The investments they made in bringing overseas companies have created millions of jobs across Ireland

Shefwedfan

Snow Garden wrote: »

Sure you don't even know who setup Irish Water.

Read your history books. Also listen to Playback on Radio 1 this morning.

They had a good story about Lemass when he won the 1957 election. A US reporter asked whats the difference between FF and FG. He thought for a minute and said "We are in, they are out". Summed up the sham right there.

So what percentage of the electorate?

Seems you don’t understand the background to Irish water, but sure most don’t

Half the clowns out protesting didn’t even realise why it was such an issue for some people after FF the great party put in Ireland should have free water

Truthvader

FrancieBrady wrote: »

What 'nonsense'?

That you call 25% of the electorate 'indecent and dishonest' is just bizarre when you look at what governments have been involved in here in the last 20 years alone.

We won't travel back a generation to laundries and homes for unmarried mothers etc etc because there is no need.

More self serving nonsense. Yes the laundries and homes for unmarried women were a shameful disgrace but were primarily driven by the grip the Catholic Church had over the whole country so that no government had the bottle or even the independance of thought to intervene. And they should have.

1000,0000 miles away from a 30 year deliberate campaign of death and thuggery by Sinn Fein IRA until they took power. What kind of person can put a bomb in a crowded pub of young people they have never met? What kind of person would send sick young men out to murder an unarmed man in front of his family? What kind of person do you think Dessie Ellis is? Martin Ferris? The yob with the Kingsmill loaf on his head? Slab? Who do you think is going to mix with them or the likes of Mary Lou trying to carve a grubby career for herself on the back of it all.

It is not OK to murder other people for a united Ireland, money, status, power or any other real or imagined reason.

LawBoy2018

Truthvader wrote: »

More self serving nonsense. Yes the laundries and homes for unmarried women were a shameful disgrace but were primarily driven by the grip the Catholic Church had over the whole country so that no government had the bottle or even the independance of thought to intervene. And they should have.

1000,0000 miles away from a 30 year deliberate campaign of death and thuggery by Sinn Fein IRA until they took power. What kind of person can put a bomb in a crowded pub of young people they have never met? What kind of person would send sick young men out to murder an unarmed man in front of his family? What kind of person do you think Dessie Ellis is? Martin Ferris? The yob with the Kingsmill loaf on his head? Slab? Who do you think is going to mix with them or the likes of Mary Lou trying to carve a grubby career for herself on the back of it all.

It is not OK to murder other people for a united Ireland, money, status, power or any other real or imagined reason.

You do realise that SF ≠ the IRA?