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    #1292
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,184 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    That's a lie, because he's en route to an event other than the one he is saying
    Its impossible to lie about a future event because it hasn't happened yet and might never happen

    What sort of rubbish is this.
    If you say you are not going to do something, knowing very well you will do it if necessary ...that is a lie all day long.


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    #1293
    Mortelaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    What sort of rubbish is this.
    If you say you are not going to do something, knowing very well you will do it if necessary ...that is a lie all day long.
    No it isn't, I've no intention of jumping into the liffey this evening Francie, but if you fall in, when I'm passing, I will, to save you


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    #1294
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,184 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    No it isn't, I've no intention of jumping into the liffey this evening Francie, but if you fall in, when I'm passing, I will, to save you

    There is no lie there.

    If you said 'you have no intention of jumping into the Liffey this evening to save me', and you did jump in, that would have been a lie.

    I know you are so used to this it is hard to recognise. But you really need to do it.


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    #1295
    Mortelaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    There is no lie there.

    If you said 'you have no intention of jumping into the Liffey this evening to save me', and you did jump in, that would have been a lie.

    I know you are so used to this it is hard to recognise. But you really need to do it.

    Not so by your standards, because I said I have no intention of jumping into the Liffey.
    I am making that statement and that alone.
    The 2nd part of my statement might not have been volunteered only for the purposes of this conversation we are having
    circumstances might change my statement or the bit I volunteered for the purpose of this conversation
    For example, there could be a shark beside you, and I'm sorry Francie, in that case, you'll be left there, by me anyway :D


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    #1296
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    None of the parties lied

    All of them hoped and some expected they would get a majority and not need to join with other parties

    If you sat down FF and FG prior to election they would have said they would get enough seats to run the country on their own, maybe join with a smaller party

    So when they said they wouldn’t join they where telling the truth

    Fact is the election didn’t go to plan for any party, SF included, so they could run and hide, or they could be politicians and try and bring the country together during a crisis

    They decided to be politicians


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    #1297
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,184 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    Not so by your standards, because I said I have no intention of jumping into the Liffey.
    I am making that statement and that alone.
    The 2nd part of my statement might not have been volunteered only for the purposes of this conversation we are having
    circumstances might change my statement or the bit I volunteered for the purpose of this conversation
    For example, there could be a shark beside you, and I'm sorry Francie, in that case, you'll be left there, by me anyway :D

    You must be able to absolve almost anything using that code above. Bizarre.

    I hope you are never called to jury duty.


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    #1298
    Edgware
    Registered Users Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Dank Janniels wrote: »
    That guy walks on water in his constituency but is neither use or ornament in reality!
    No he walks on the shoulders of giants who have gone before him like Luke Ming Flanagan who defended Roscommon turf cutters a few years ago but now cosies up to tree huggers and anti turf cutters like Saoirse McHugh


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    #1299
    Truthvader
    Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Truthvader


    RandomViewer wrote: »
    Lots of FF voters supported the RA, FG TDs visited republican prisoners in the Maze, it's not all black and white like some would like to paint it. FG condemn the Provisional IRA yet hopped into bed with the Official IRA .
    Lynch s cowardice created the RA

    Christ , what new fantasy is this. Was Jack Lynch supposed to launch some gaelic Bay of Pigs adventure in Newry? Get a grip FFS.

    Bottom line either you think it is justifiable or indeed a noble and heroic act to kill and mutilate other people for any reason or you dont.


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    #1300
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    RandomViewer wrote: »
    Lots of FF voters supported the RA, FG TDs visited republican prisoners in the Maze, it's not all black and white like some would like to paint it. FG condemn the Provisional IRA yet hopped into bed with the Official IRA .
    Lynch s cowardice created the RA


    No they didn't


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    #1301
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Truthvader wrote: »
    Christ , what new fantasy is this. Was Jack Lynch supposed to launch some gaelic Bay of Pigs adventure in Newry? Get a grip FFS.

    Bottom line either you think it is justifiable or indeed a noble and heroic act to kill and mutilate other people for any reason or you dont.


    Deos micheal martins stated admiration for frank aiken,not perplex yous....or FG annual day trip to beal na blaith?

    Or are these somehow different?


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    #1302
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    No they didn't

    My good man,they most deffo did

    A FF minister spirted a gaurda killer out of the state previously.....there used be a v.strong republican element to FF


    Afaik an ex FF taoiseach was omce convicted of funneling guns to nationlists in the 6 counties


    Still see FF gave statements at easter commerations about the place (though these have cross party attendance in rural areas tbf)


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    #1303
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Deleted User wrote: »
    My good man,they most deffo did

    A FF minister spirted a gaurda killer out of the state previously.....there used be a v.strong republican element to FF


    Agaik an ex FF taoiseach was omce convicted of funneling guns to nationlists in the 6 counties


    Still see FF gave statements at easter commerations about the place


    What?


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    #1304
    Truthvader
    Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Truthvader


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Deos micheal martins stated admiration for frank aiken,not perplex yous....or FG annual day trip to beal na blaith?

    Or are these somehow different?

    Firstly long thought there are aspects to Michael Collins that are fudged and not faced. Not as familiar with Mr Aikans career but expect it is the same.

    Secondly they are different. Full Stop. Do you think Frank Aiken could mutilate a teenage boy for stealing a car or put a bomb in a pub or dancehall to incinerate young people unknown to them.

    As before the difference is that Sinn Feiners can justify or glory in their sick history and normal people cannot. Its makes them unfit to govern anything


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    #1305
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Truthvader wrote: »
    Firstly long thought there are aspects to Michael Collins that are fudged and not faced. Not as familiar with Mr Aikans career but expect it is the same.

    Secondly they are different. Full Stop. Do you think Frank Aiken could mutilate a teenage boy for stealing a car or put a bomb in a pub or dancehall to incinerate young people unknown to them.

    As before the difference is that Sinn Feiners can justify or glory in their sick history and normal people cannot. Its makes them unfit to govern anything

    Do you even know,what frank aiken is accused of carrying out/ordering as a retailation attack,a massacre the uvf would be proud of (also.disappeared a politian aswell)

    Micheal martin refered to him as extraordinarly iconic in a meeting,micheal martin is a history teacher,he knows what he is saying


    To me theres no difference between ira of 1920s and ira of 1970s nor indeed ira of 2020s......violence is violence in my eyes,.....irish politics is rotten to core with hypocrites ffg critise shinnerz,who in turn critise dissidents,whole thing is a joke,


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    #1306
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,184 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Truthvader wrote: »
    Firstly long thought there are aspects to Michael Collins that are fudged and not faced. Not as familiar with Mr Aikans career but expect it is the same.

    Secondly they are different. Full Stop. Do you think Frank Aiken could mutilate a teenage boy for stealing a car or put a bomb in a pub or dancehall to incinerate young people unknown to them.

    As before the difference is that Sinn Feiners can justify or glory in their sick history and normal people cannot. Its makes them unfit to govern anything

    Who are 'normal' people?
    Most people know what other people are capable of if a conflict/war situation arises. We have enough history here to know ourselves, even if you have a blind spot and have sanitised because of the passing of time. Somebody shot dead in 1916 is just as dead as somebody shot dead in 1972.

    It's absolute nonsense to try and say that FG and FF don't celebrate or glorify the acts carried out to secure our independence. Violence happened in this country for a reason, that reason is still here, and is still causing division and no small amount of violence.
    I want to work to ensure it doesn't happen again on the scale that it did.


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    #1307
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Who are 'normal' people?
    Most people know what other people are capable of if a conflict/war situation arises. We have enough history here to know ourselves, even if you have a blind spot and have sanitised because of the passing of time. Somebody shot dead in 1916 is just as dead as somebody shot dead in 1972.

    It's absolute nonsense to try and say that FG and FF don't celebrate or glorify the acts carried out to secure our independence. Violence happened in this country for a reason, that reason is still here, and is still causing division and no small amount of violence.
    I want to work to ensure it doesn't happen again on the scale that it did.


    Yeah violence for washing diesel....


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    #1308
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Yeah violence for washing diesel....

    For someone who gives out about whingeing you sure do whinge alot lol.


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    #1309
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    smurgen wrote: »
    For someone who gives out about whingeing you sure do whinge alot lol.

    Discuss the post not the poster for once


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    #1310
    McMurphy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Yeah violence for washing diesel....

    Shefwedfan wrote:
    You do know the reason Irish water was setup was because of the bailout and it was one of the terms!!!


    McMurphy wrote: »
    I wouldn't mind seeing the source for this little nugget of info.

    When you're ready please.

    I think you might have accidentally missed my request on purpose.


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    #1311
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    McMurphy wrote: »
    When you're ready please.

    I think you might have accidentally missed my request on purpose.

    https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing-accessories/computer-accessories/mice-and-keyboards/keyboards/318_3058_30061_xx_xx/xx-criteria.html


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    #1312
    McMurphy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing-accessories/computer-accessories/mice-and-keyboards/keyboards/318_3058_30061_xx_xx/xx-criteria.html

    We will take that as a no. Thanks.

    I did say before you should start putting some forethought into some of the nonsense you post.


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    #1313
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    McMurphy wrote: »
    We will take that as a no. Thanks.

    I did say before you should start putting some forethought into some of the nonsense you post.

    Yes because your daily post about a bet is so informative


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    #1314
    McMurphy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Yes because your daily post about a bet is so informative

    Look, you once again posted unsubstantiated guff, it was false/untrue and I called you out on it.

    No point getting narky about it.


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    #1315
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    McMurphy wrote: »
    Look, you once again posted unsubstantiated guff, it was false/untrue and I called you out on it.

    No point getting narky about it.

    I will refer back to my previous comment

    https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing-accessories/computer-accessories/mice-and-keyboards/keyboards/318_3058_30061_xx_xx/xx-criteria.html?awc=5297_1592695915_fdaa7f9b4023801d4b77e05d7c0a5431&utm_source=Skimlinks&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_campaign=Affiliate

    :-)


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    #1316
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users Posts: 16,577 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Do you even know,what frank aiken is accused of carrying out/ordering as a retailation attack,a massacre the uvf would be proud of (also.disappeared a politian aswell)

    Yes, the 'Altnaveigh Massacre' of six Protestant civilians in 1922. Part of of a cycle of 'tit for tat' sectarian violence in Armagh/Down at that time of course, but still...


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    #1317
    Dank Janniels
    Registered Users Posts: 655 ✭✭✭Dank Janniels


    Edgware wrote: »
    No he walks on the shoulders of giants who have gone before him like Luke Ming Flanagan who defended Roscommon turf cutters a few years ago but now cosies up to tree huggers and anti turf cutters like Saoirse McHugh

    Theres more to Rural Ireland than turf cutting


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    #1318
    RandomViewer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Truthvader wrote: »
    Christ , what new fantasy is this. Was Jack Lynch supposed to launch some gaelic Bay of Pigs adventure in Newry? Get a grip FFS.

    Bottom line either you think it is justifiable or indeed a noble and heroic act to kill and mutilate other people for any reason or you dont.

    All he had to do was demand the UN intervene, troubles in the North weren't started by republicans, Haughey armed the IRA to keep the Loyalists at bay, Bosnian style genocide is what they wanted


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    #1319
    RandomViewer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    No they didn't

    Up here they did, FG courted the Orange vote, FF the republican vote
    .


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    #1320
    RandomViewer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Truthvader wrote: »
    Christ , what new fantasy is this. Was Jack Lynch supposed to launch some gaelic Bay of Pigs adventure in Newry? Get a grip FFS.

    Bottom line either you think it is justifiable or indeed a noble and heroic act to kill and mutilate other people for any reason or you dont.

    Sometimes the only way to keep the bullies at bay is to become a bigger bully, while violence is best avoided it is necessary on some occasions .


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    #1321
    RandomViewer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Deos micheal martins stated admiration for frank aiken,not perplex yous....or FG annual day trip to beal na blaith?

    Or are these somehow different?

    Or Blueshirts killing innocent Spaniards?


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