FF/FG/Green Next Government

Bishop of hope

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

IT alert reckons the Greens have passed it



FF have backed it as well they're saying now

Get ready for more taxes, more inconvenience and hassle on top of the already imminent Covid financial fallout - all so a party representing less than 7% of the electorate can virtue signal and destroy the economy under the guise of saving the planet while the likes of China and the US do whatever they want

Squeaky one it looks like.

https://twitter.com/sandra_hurley/status/1276586009845694471?s=20

The HorsesMouth

Shefwedfan wrote: »

At the moment it looks like the next election will be 5 years away, but early to start calling on who you want to vote for is it not?

No I was responding to a poster who said he was upset the greens were going into government because he voted for change but I was just pointing out that I thought that was a wrong choice if a complete change was what they wanted. Sinn Fein would have been the choice for a change( back in February) and probably in the future.

Shefwedfan

The HorsesMouth wrote: »

No I was responding to a poster who said he was upset the greens were going into government because he voted for change but I was just pointing out that I thought that was a wrong choice if a complete change was what they wanted. Sinn Fein would have been the choice for a change( back in February) and probably in the future.

If you on socail welfare then maybe SF would be a good choice
If your working then SF is the worst choice for you, unless you like more money going out of your wages towards social welfare

hatrickpatrick

Shefwedfan wrote: »

If you on socail welfare then maybe SF would be a good choice
If your working then SF is the worst choice for you, unless you like more money going out of your wages towards social welfare

If you're working, but you don't like more money going out of your wages towards property speculators in the form of obscenely high rents, SF are also a fairly good choice.

1percent

Mortelaro wrote: »

Have a lovely weekend guys
Here's some humour

https://www.facebook.com/943897012346619/posts/3029908577078775/?sfnsn=mo&d=n&vh=e

Brilliant 😂😂😂

McMurphy

Shefwedfan wrote: »

If you on socail welfare then maybe SF would be a good choice
If your working then SF is the worst choice for you, unless you like more money going out of your wages towards social welfare

We are constantly reminded of how we have one of the most generous welfare system in the whole of the EU. The people who enjoy this generous safety net/abuse it by making it a career choice cannot give Sinn Fein any credit for it, as what they enjoy have been put in place by governments over the years led by either a FG or an FF party govt.

You really and truly cannot help putting your foot in it, you're like a moth and a light bulb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP04Pkm5Coo

Shefwedfan

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

If you're working, but you don't like more money going out of your wages towards property speculators in the form of obscenely high rents, SF are also a fairly good choice.

If people couldn't afford the rents they wouldn't pay them and the rent would come down


The huge issue at the moment is non payment by people on social welfare of rent to councils. If they where made to pay the rent that money could be reinvested into more housing.



SF will never resolve any of that.....

christy c

McMurphy wrote: »

We are constantly reminded of how we have one of the most generous welfare system in the whole of the EU. The people who enjoy this generous safety net/abuse it by making it a career choice cannot give Sinn Fein any credit for it, as what they enjoy have been put in place by governments over the years led by either a FG or an FF party govt.

Exactly, yet FG are our "right wing" party.

Hopefully this coalition will hasten the arrival of a right/centre right party.

hatrickpatrick

Shefwedfan wrote: »

If people couldn't afford the rents they wouldn't pay them and the rent would come down

Or maybe they do pay them and every other aspect of their quality of life all the way from food and clothing to socialising suffers as a result. You clearly have no idea the absolute vice grip that the property owning class of this country have young people in.

Water John

We only have to look across the border to see SF in Govn't, radical change LOL.
SF in Govn't would be a very diff animal than SF in opposition. They may still have a chance of that with FF, if the vote in the Greens don't pass it.

bennyl10

Water John wrote: »

We only have to look across the border to see SF in Govn't, radical change LOL.
SF in Govn't would be a very diff animal than SF in opposition. They may still have a chance of that with FF, if the vote in the Greens don't pass it.

Greens have it by all accounts, just waiting for the confirmation

Excited for SF, to paraphrase a thread title here, to do nothing but shout loud for the next 5 years

stevedublin

FF and Greens have agreed to PfG, yay!

ninebeanrows

Poor Leo

He should have went to the country- he will rue this moment

Truthvader

The HorsesMouth wrote: »

Yeah I do think that for anyone looking for a huge shift in all policies then Sinn Fein is the only option. The greens are never going to be the hope for change. It's too much for them to take on. As I said social justice and environment....that's pretty much it for them IMO.

Are you having a laugh? Ask any of the people in Belfast or Derry who will never walk properly again about Sinn Fein "social justice" . Questions on the environment can be referred to border farmers on whose land Slab and the boys dump their diesel sludge.

Think you will be disappointed on those fronts but if you want the Special Criminal Court abolished thems the lads for you.

Truthvader

stevedublin wrote: »

FF and Greens have agreed to PfG, yay!

Rightyho , anyone want to open a book on how long it lasts - or you could play the accumultor by predicting not only when but who pulls it down

hatrickpatrick

Truthvader wrote: »

Are you having a laugh? Ask any of the people in Belfast or Derry who will never walk properly again about Sinn Fein "social justice" . Questions on the environment can be referred to border farmers on whose land Slab and the boys dump their diesel sludge.

Think you will be disappointed on those fronts but if you want the Special Criminal Court abolished thems the lads for you.

Who do you suggest that those who want a radical change away from right wing economic policies vote for?

Loafing Oaf

stevedublin wrote: »

FF and Greens have agreed to PfG, yay!

Any confirmation on the Greens?

jprender

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Who do you suggest that those who want a radical change away from right wing economic policies vote for?

Right wing economic policies ?

With the level of welfare we have in this country ?

Honestly, we do not have right wing policies.

JeffKenna

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Who do you suggest that those who want a radical change away from right wing economic policies vote for?

Do you actually live in this country?

hatrickpatrick

jprender wrote: »

Right wing economic policies ?

With the level of welfare we have in this country ?

Honestly, we do not have right wing policies.

Let me focus my question so: Who do you suggest that people who want a radical shift away from right wing housing policies should vote for?

hatrickpatrick

JeffKenna wrote: »

Do you actually live in this country?

I live in a country in which the vast majority of my generation are being fisted up to the gallbladder by landlords.

Loafing Oaf

jprender wrote: »

Right wing economic policies ?

With the level of welfare we have in this country ?

Honestly, we do not have right wing policies.

These things are always relative. He wants something to the left of what's there at the moment.

jprender

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Let me focus my question so: Who do you suggest that people who want a radical shift away from right wing housing policies should vote for?

Right wing housing policies ?

With the level of rent allowance and cheap houses given out ?

Honestly, we don’t have right wing housing policies.

JeffKenna

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Let me focus my question so: Who do you suggest that people who want a radical shift away from right wing housing policies should vote for?

In reality to sort out the housing mess we have to go more right social welfare policy. Get rid of the houses for life for free mentality that exists.

Truthvader

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Who do you suggest that those who want a radical change away from right wing economic policies vote for?

That is a huge problem. Agree 100%. There is no left wing alternative at all. What should be the left wing vote is fragmented on independents who are often just a little bit to crazy or PBP whiners with no actual policy. Plus Sinn Fein are getting a big share. The result is a fragmented collection of flakey individuals and wasted votes to Sinn Fein. Hard to see the Labour party ressurecting themselves. Perhaps the Greens long term if they can ditch their loony element. As I said; good question

jprender

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

These things are always relative. He wants something to the left of what's there at the moment.

This I can agree with,

To say that we have right wing policies is folly.

Further left than the left we currently occupy. Now I get it.

KyussB

Are the Greens doing a recount or something? The results are late.

Bishop of hope

KyussB wrote: »

Are the Greens doing a recount or something? The results are late.

Patience, you'll be, sick of them before too long.

FrancieBrady

KyussB wrote: »

Are the Greens doing a recount or something? The results are late.

Twitter is saying a YES announcement is imminent.

RTE got the news earlier though.


What a fecking sham really.

KyussB

That was being said before the ballots were even opened. Non-official sources i.e. rumours are not reliable.