FF/FG/Green Next Government

Mantis Toboggan

I don't think FF & FG will amalgamate anytime soon but its definitely in the pipeline.

antimatterx

is_that_so wrote: »

Humphries over Bruton.

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Agree except think it could be a coin toss between Bruton and Heather Humphries for the last seat.

I disagree. I think Bruton is probably the safest and most capable minister regardless of portfolio. This will probably be his last term, he will get a minister job.

_Kaiser_

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Fair play Alan Kelly...nailing the bull****.

Yep. I feel very conflicted. Kelly is coming across with a lot of sense! :eek:

Professor Moriarty

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

You mean handling the running over to the country over to Dr Tony and co whose excessive (but understandable from a medical perspective) conservatism has lined us up for a VERY painful post-Covid recovery.

Only when his own Government, the opposition, and population started piling on the pressure was Leo finally shamed into opening up the country

Yep, great job there!

They flattened the curve and we have a much better mortality rate than any of our near neighbours. Kudos to them for that.

antimatterx

namloc1980 wrote: »

I hope Bruton is relegated to the back benches. Useless.

Far from useless. He was minister for jobs at a time when we had record unemployment, and set the foundations to almost achieve record employment.

Shefwedfan

I actually though Labour speech was good

is_that_so

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Yep. I feel very conflicted. Kelly is coming across with a lot of sense! :eek:

It's natural to think that when when the last 3 months has been COVID, COVID, COVID. See how you feel about him in another three months!

_Kaiser_

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

They flattened the curve and we have a much better mortality rate than any of our near neighbours. Kudos to them for that.

They "flattened the curve" weeks before they finally started to relax restrictions. Those lost weeks were key in exacerbating the economic damage which we will all now pay for over the coming years.

Loafing Oaf

antimatterx wrote: »

I disagree. I think Bruton is probably the safest and most capable minister regardless of portfolio.

Could still be trumped by gender considerations. Do you think Anne Rabbite or Norma Foley would be getting anywhere near a minisitry if they were Andy and Norman?

_Kaiser_

is_that_so wrote: »

It's natural to think that when when the last 3 months has been COVID, COVID, COVID. See how you feel about him in another three months!

Not at all. I still remember this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Vm0pFR0FXA

But like a stopped clock, everyone can be right sometimes.

namloc1980

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

They "flattened the curve" weeks before they finally started to relax restrictions. Those lost weeks were key in exacerbating the economic damage which we will all now pay for over the coming years.

Ah come off it. We can see now spikes reoccurring in Germany where over 600k people are back in lockdown. The virus hasn't gone away you know.

Shefwedfan

Shefwedfan wrote: »

I actually though Labour speech was good

Me, too. But I’m prejudiced. I gave Kelly my No 1. There. I’ve outed myself!

Professor Moriarty

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

They "flattened the curve" weeks before they finally started to relax restrictions. Those lost weeks were key in exacerbating the economic damage which we will all now pay for over the coming years.

Every country has suffered enormous economic damage. Look at Britain, France, Spain. But we had much less deaths. It mightn't suit your narrative but that is a fact.

Shefwedfan

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

You mean handling the running over to the country over to Dr Tony and co whose excessive (but understandable from a medical perspective) conservatism has lined us up for a VERY painful post-Covid recovery.

Only when his own Government, the opposition, and population started piling on the pressure was Leo finally shamed into opening up the country

Yep, great job there!

Thank God it is not in your hands or we would have a lot higher death rate


Look at the countries who rushed to open and now have a disaster again

biko

I hope I'm just being gloomy but Greens in coalition will not be good.
I suppose we'll see in few months.

Acosta

Desperate times that might even get worse if there's another blast of the virus over the winter, so we badly needed a government to be formed. However it's a bloody sad day that Fianna Fail are back in government.

mattser

namloc1980 wrote: »

Leo seems to be having a great time. More than happy to hand over the reins to MM.

He gave Sinn Change both barrels as well. Good performance.

namloc1980

Boyd Barrett talking rubbish. "Change change change". Switch the record.

Poor little Rich Boy.

JohnnyFlash

If you think Richie is bad, then wait until Mick Barry gets his chance to speak. Jesus.

Trade Union gibberish

_Kaiser_

Deleted User wrote: »

Poor little Rich Boy.

Again though, he's not entirely wrong with some of his points.

I don't do this thing of dismissing the message because I don't like the messenger.

Shefwedfan

namloc1980 wrote: »

Boyd Barrett talking rubbish. "Change change change". Switch the record.

He is making a show of himself


Does he think he is at a rally and that if he shouts it makes any difference


Trying to buddy up with SF is a bit late now

Change again

Eggs For Dinner

Here we go again with PBP. "The country voted for change" . Did I miss something at the vote count?. The majority voted for the mainstream parties. While they are not ideal, the majority did not want Sinn Fein or the looney left. I voted for the parties who openly declared they would have nothing to do with them

For Forks Sake

namloc1980 wrote: »

Boyd Barrett talking rubbish. "Change change change". Switch the record.

cHanGe? :rolleyes:

namloc1980

With the way SF and others have been going on that the message from the election was overwhelmingly for 'change' it should've been a doddle for them to form a government. They had 5 months!!

JohnnyFlash

For Forks Sake wrote: »

cHanGe?

12 is probably a bit early for the professional protestors.

RISE up and follow Posh Boy.

Doesn’t have the same ring as Rise up and follow Charlie!

_Kaiser_

So the youth should be calling the shots eh? Let the under 25s dictate policy. Hmm..

I sympathise and agree to an extent that the younger voters are treated very badly here, but you need a bit of life experience and maturity in order to look at the bigger picture of national Government and demands.

The Left do have some good points, but it's confused and incoherent a lot of the time and this overshadows everything they say.