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namloc1980

Shefwedfan wrote: »

I have driven it, I have driven nearly every road in Ireland if not them all.

I have yet to get an answer on the limerick to cork train line?

What's your question on it? There is no Cork to Limerick rail line. There's a single tracked line to Limerick from Limerick junction on the Cork Dublin mainline.

ExMachina1000

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Haven't seen any mention of where Simon Harris is going?

At a minimum looks like hes getting demoted as hes lost the health portfolio - will he be in the government at all?

Hopefully out the door. A complete failure from day one

An Ciarraioch

Donnelly gets Health.

LawBoy2018

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Haven't seen any mention of where Simon Harris is going?

At a minimum looks like hes getting demoted as hes lost the health portfolio - will he be in the government at all?

Simon Harris - Social protection.

efanton

Shefwedfan wrote: »

So?

You have a train which connects limerick and cork

Is it over subscribed?

You have more than most of the country has

You were just told, there is no train line from Limerick to Cork.

You have to go from Limerick to Limerick Junction (which happens to be be in a totally different county, Tipperary), then change trains to get another train to Cork. The train journey takes significantly longer than a journey by car.

That still doesnt deal with the issue of HGV's, containers or goods delivery.

Also there are absolutely ZERO commuter services on those rail lines. All services are inter city. Pretty pointless asking local people to use use trains when the only two towns between Limerick and Cork that are on those lines are Charleville and Mallow, and a lot of the existing trains services dont even stop at Charleville.

If you want a train service from Cork to Limerick that would carry commuters you are going to have to build a new rail line.

Kermit.de.frog

Fine Gael have done by far the best out of the cabinet seats so far taking Finance, Foreign Affairs and Justice

namloc1980

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Fine Gael have done by far the best out of the cabinet seats so far taking Finance, Foreign Affairs and Justice

And avoiding Housing and Health!

Sierra Oscar

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Fine Gael have done by far the best out of the cabinet seats so far taking Finance, Foreign Affairs and Justice

To be expected though. Fianna Fáil have hammered Fine Gael on housing and health, they can't exactly pass up on the opportunity to show leadership on those portfolios.

Delivering on those portfolios is Fianna Fáil's way back to gaining more support. It's make or break for them.

LawBoy2018

Ryan - Transport & Climate.

Martin - Arts & Culture.

O'Gorman - Children & Equality.

An Ciarraioch

Ryan to Transport, McGrath Public Expenditure and Martin gets Arts, Culture, Heritage and the Gaeltacht.

ExMachina1000

LawBoy2018 wrote: »

Ryan - Transport & Climate.

Martin - Arts & Culture.

O'Gorman - Children & Equality.

Eamonn Ryan minister of transport. Here we go

An Ciarraioch

Norma Foley gets Education.

namloc1980

Presume Coveney will stay on at FA.

LawBoy2018

I'm so delighted that MM didn't pick Rabbitte or Chambers.

Professor Moriarty

namloc1980 wrote: »

Presume Coveney will stay on at FA.

Hopefully.

efanton

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Fine Gael have done by far the best out of the cabinet seats so far taking Finance, Foreign Affairs and Justice

They have played an absolute blinder. They have ensure that they control the money, trade and foreign affairs and handed all the hot potatoes to FF and the Greens so that they will get burnt at the next election.

The sad thing is though, that both the FF and the Green leaders seem totally oblivious to the fact that they are on their way to destroying their own political parties and willing doing so.

LawBoy2018

Calleary - Chief whip?? I'd say he's sickened.

namloc1980

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

To be expected though. Fianna Fáil have hammered Fine Gael on housing and health, they can't exactly pass up on the opportunity to show leadership on those portfolios.

Delivering on those portfolios is Fianna Fáil's way back to gaining more support. It's make or break for them.

Solving Housing and Health is virtually impossible. There's always going to be some high profile issue in those areas no matter how much progress is made. Absolute poisoned chalices.

Bannasidhe

namloc1980 wrote: »

The train from Cork to Limerick via Limerick junction is slower than the rubbish road connecting the two cities. It is not an attractive option at all.

2 hr 40 odd minutes on train Vs 1 hr 30 odd minutes to drive.
And expensive if used for commuting, avg of €300 a month if used 5 days a week. Plus not much good unless you live/work within bus/walking distance to stations.

Even just looking at Cork - Mallow on the same line it's around €180 a month to commute and unless you can walk to home/work not much use.

Kermit.de.frog

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Eamonn Ryan minister of transport. Here we go

This means Metro is on the shelf for 10 more years because he wants to redesign the whole thing to take it to Tallaght.

antimatterx

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Haven't seen any mention of where Simon Harris is going?

At a minimum looks like hes getting demoted as hes lost the health portfolio - will he be in the government at all?

Social Protection probably

ExMachina1000

efanton wrote: »

They have played an absolute blinder. They have ensure that they control the money, trade and foreign affairs and handed all the hot potatoes to FF and the Greens so that they will get burnt at the next election.

The sad thing is though, that both the FF and the Green leaders seem totally oblivious to the fact that they are on their way to destroying their own political parties and willing doing so.

Greens should have never been there in the first place. Ministerial positions on 7% of the vote.

Shefwedfan

namloc1980 wrote: »

What's your question on it? There is no Cork to Limerick rail line. There's a single tracked line to Limerick from Limerick junction on the Cork Dublin mainline.

Limerick to Cork on a train is circa 1.40min


Limerick to Cork based on travelling now on the road is 1.36 mins. I would expect a lot more in rish hour



So you are taking the same amount of time. So yes Limerick to Cork does have a train line.

So is it over subscribed?

MrMusician18

antimatterx wrote: »

Social Protection probably

Sideways move, but there are fewer landmines in Social Protection than Health.

Will probably do well there, if that's where he goes.

An Ciarraioch

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Greens should have never been there in the first place. Ministerial positions on 7% of the vote.

What relevance has that to anything? Plenty times Labour and the PDs have been in Cabinet on similar percentages.

Kermit.de.frog

efanton wrote: »

They have played an absolute blinder. They have ensure that they control the money, trade and foreign affairs and handed all the hot potatoes to FF and the Greens so that they will get burnt at the next election.

The sad thing is though, that both the FF and the Green leaders seem totally oblivious to the fact that they are on their way to destroying their own political parties and willing doing so.

I don't think FG would have gone in with FF's hand on the purse strings, not after what happened the last time Fianna Fail were in government.

Shefwedfan

Bannasidhe wrote: »

2 hr 40 odd minutes on train Vs 1 hr 30 odd minutes to drive.
And expensive if used for commuting, avg of €300 a month if used 5 days a week. Plus not much good unless you live/work within bus/walking distance to stations.

Even just looking at Cork - Mallow on the same line it's around €180 a month to commute and unless you can walk to home/work not much use.

If I look I see between 2 hours and 1 hour 45 on Monday......

Instead of building a road and investing in more trains etc that could be reduced.

How much does it cost to buy/maintain a car? how much is mileage causing depreciation?

antimatterx

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Sideways move, but there are fewer landmines in Social Protection than Health.

Will probably do well there, if that's where he goes.

It's a less stressful job. The man has aged beyond his years in health.

ExMachina1000

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

What relevance has that to anything? Plenty times Labour and the PDs have been in Cabinet on similar percentages.

What do you mean what has that got to do with anything?

Ministerial positions @7% of the vote.

Labour shouldn't have been there either. Although we all know how that turned out. Hoping for similar

antimatterx

Any word on Bruton?