Parking and traffic in Phoenix Park

beauf

Everywhere park, beach etc is busy today I reckon.

Phil.x

beauf wrote: »

Everywhere park, beach etc is busy today I reckon.

Open the pubs and shops and the park will be back to being pre-covid popular.

miamee

zerosugarbuzz wrote: »

Main car park at the Papal Cross apparently now closing at 6pm each day. What about the people stopping off after work in the evenings for a walk or run after work. Makes no sense to me!

I was parked in it on Friday from about 7pm to 7.50 and no sign of it closing when I was leaving. There *is* a sign on the barrier at the entrance saying car park closes at 6pm but that is the second time in recent weeks I have been there at that time without any issues.

VonLuck

VonLuck wrote: »

Phoenix Park gates to be rehung by the end of July: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/phoenix-park-gates-set-to-be-rehung-after-800-000-restoration-1.4529113

Was in the park today and it looks like they've started doing something with the Ashtown gate at last.

Stark

VonLuck wrote: »

Was in the park today and it looks like they've started doing something with the Ashtown gate at last.

Work being done on Chapelizod Gate as well.

jlang

In the last few weeks small signs with bikes/people/arrows have been installed on wooden sticks at each junction on the new paths on Chesterfield Avenue. If I'm interpreting them correctly the intent is that to keep bikes off the old cycle paths (and walkers off the hard shoulder cycle paths). Confusingly they also seem to want to enforce one way walking on the new footpaths.


If you've seen the signs, you'll know what I'm talking about. I might take a picture next time. Doesn't make any sense to me, even if segregating people walking in the opposite direction might have been the intent at the "max fear" stage of the pandemic.


Does anyone know what this is about?



No signs at the old paths, so I suppose they're still OK for two way walking.

Larbre34

I'd say they left any attempt to do something like that 12 months too late. People are just gonna do whatever they like, short of walking on the road.

Stark

The one way walker signs have been there a while (totally ignored of course). They tried those in my local park but gave up on them. Saw one old fella give out to someone walking the other way one day and she just looked at him confused and said "yeah, thanks".

Larbre34

Wasn't she right too?

I'm all for legitimate public health measures but thats a load of nonsense.

IngazZagni

Yeah those arrows on the footpaths have been up for months. I get the point of it but it's totally ignored so really just a waste of paint.

Separately I have noticed the need for Zebra crossings on Chesterfield Avenue. There's effectively no official crossing point on this entire stretch. There's a line near Castleknock which is not in line with standard zebra crossing road markings so basically they are expecting people to J walk and dodge traffic in a public park..

raheny red

Trying a way one system but no pedestrian crossings.....

I told ya

On Chesterfield Avenue, runners on the outer paths and walkers on the inner paths. Would it work?

buffalo

I told ya wrote: »

On Chesterfield Avenue, runners on the outer paths and walkers on the inner paths. Would it work?

I'm taking it that you mean inner as the one closer to the road? Vice versa would be better. Nobody likes walking beside the car traffic unless they have to, much nicer to walk further away from the fumes and noise and under the leafy trees.

Inner path is smoother as it doesn't have as many tree roots, so would be better for runners.

raheny red

Recent pics of the North Road works

https://twitter.com/Tallpaulie/status/1396151729788489728?s=19

Larbre34

Whats he on about? The new mobility plan for the Park hasn't been agreed yet.

Yes, they were resurfacing a badly broken up road. Did he expect them to do a crap job of it for some reason?

If he's dazed and confused he should inform himself better.

Former Former Former

Bizarre. One look at those pictures and you'd know that it's not newly installed.

Never let facts get in the way of outrage and zealotry though. That's the key.

VonLuck

Larbre34 wrote: »

Whats he on about? The new mobility plan for the Park hasn't been agreed yet.

Yes, they were resurfacing a badly broken up road. Did he expect them to do a crap job of it for some reason?

If he's dazed and confused he should inform himself better.

True, but seeing as major works were involved in resurfacing they could have considered adjusting it somewhat, such as moving the ramp out of the cycle lane.

Larbre34

VonLuck wrote: »

True, but seeing as major works were involved in resurfacing they could have considered adjusting it somewhat, such as moving the ramp out of the cycle lane.

As was responded to his tweet, they deliberately put them in the cycle lane so cars wouldn't use the cycle lane to avoid them. Granted, some cycle lane deflectors might have been a better solution.

Former Former Former

VonLuck wrote: »

True, but seeing as major works were involved in resurfacing they could have considered adjusting it somewhat, such as moving the ramp out of the cycle lane.

The section with the ramp in the cycle lane was very clearly not resurfaced.

The cycling lobby don't help themselves sometimes

daymobrew

Former Former Former wrote: »

The section with the ramp in the cycle lane was very clearly not resurfaced.

The cycling lobby don't help themselves sometimes

It's not fair to tarnish an entire group based on one twit. At least require a good few twits - like one does with Audi drivers :-)

VonLuck

Former Former Former wrote: »

The section with the ramp in the cycle lane was very clearly not resurfaced.

The cycling lobby don't help themselves sometimes

Not sure what you mean. They clearly have put a new speed bump in the cycle lane.

Former Former Former

VonLuck wrote: »

Not sure what you mean. They clearly have put a new speed bump in the cycle lane.

No, they have not. It was always like that.

VonLuck

Former Former Former wrote: »

No, they have not. It was always like that.

Nope. They've replaced the existing speed bumps as part of the resurfacing works.

Larbre34

VonLuck wrote: »

Nope. They've replaced the existing speed bumps as part of the resurfacing works.

I'm not sure what it is you are saying?

The speed bumps were always in the cycle lane, a simple look at Google Street view shows how it was. They have resurfaced and replaced the ramp exactly as it was, including the cycle lane.

What are you on about?

VonLuck

Larbre34 wrote: »

I'm not sure what it is you are saying?

The speed bumps were always in the cycle lane, a simple look at Google Street view shows how it was. They have resurfaced and replaced the ramp exactly as it was, including the cycle lane.

What are you on about?

I never said they weren't there previously. I said they put in new ones.

IngazZagni

Larbre34 wrote: »

I'm not sure what it is you are saying?

The speed bumps were always in the cycle lane, a simple look at Google Street view shows how it was. They have resurfaced and replaced the ramp exactly as it was, including the cycle lane.

What are you on about?

Isn't this sort of the point? It would be the simplist thing to do. Just not start the ramp so close to the curb on a cycle lane.
Now we will end up digging it up again in a few months as the part of the revised road system in the park in typical Irish fashion.

Larbre34

Possibly. Maybe. Maybe not.

raheny red

https://twitter.com/phoenixparkopw/status/1408061707965009921?s=19

VonLuck

Who knew repairing and rehanging gates could be such a long process.

Treppen

VonLuck wrote: »

Who knew repairing and rehanging gates could be such a long process.

... Wait till you witness the grand opening of the gate.