Overpriced ShoeBoxes

Smouse156

Anyone else think the is some sort of joke? 350k for a 42sqm corridor! Views yes but you might as well live on the footpath it’s so tight. Didn’t even think it was possible to call something that small a 2-bed. My 1-bed in Dubai was 90sqm

https://www.daft.ie/12104259

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

Location, location, location.

Smouse156

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy wrote: »

Location, location, location.

You could camp on the footpath or beach outside for free! Plus have room to swing a cat ðŸˆ

TheSheriff

Amazing location.

Small yes, but location wins for me. Were it any bigger expect to pay multiples of that

u140acro3xs7dm

Smouse156 wrote: »

Anyone else think the is some sort of joke? 350k for a 42sqm corridor! Views yes but you might as well live on the footpath it’s so tight. Didn’t even think it was possible to call something that small a 2-bed. My 1-bed in Dubai was 90sqm

https://www.daft.ie/12104259

Thinly veiled I lived in Dubai thread.

Smouse156

Atticus Wet Railroad wrote: »

Thinly veiled I lived in Dubai thread.

Nothing to do with Dubai, just to point out that in an expensive city a standard 1-bed which is far cheaper than Dublin now is at least 60sqm. More to do with Rip-off Republic

Spanish Eyes

It's a bit tight floor area wise alright, but someone will buy it. The views are great, has to be said.

Even if I won the lotto I wouldn't buy along that road. It is choc a block with people either going up or coming down from the Cliff Walk and various waifs and strays from the harbour area itself. None of them doing any harm, but they can nosey in your window on the ground floor anyway, which this one is.

I suppose it's supply and demand, together with location.

Rodney Bathgate

Smouse156 wrote: »

My 1-bed in Dubai was 90sqm

Sounds great, pity it is in Dubai.

looksee

Agree with OP, 350k for that is nonsense, even in Howth.

fret_wimp2

Amazing view, difficult to get anywhere, and this is within sneezing distance of the city center.

Its not a place to raise a family but its a pied a terre for somebody with amazing views in a lovely location..location...location.

Its expensive by floor area for sure, but location and view trump floor area. Its why 90m2 house can be had in Dublin for as low as 200k or upwards of 600k.

No point being bitter or angry about it, thats the market, if it doesnt sell, they will lower it or take it down but if i was a betting person, my money would be on it selling close to asking.

If location means nothing & floor area is your priority then you have your pick of some great houses in Dublin!
33 3 beds below 200k available right now!

https://www.daft.ie/dublin/houses-for-sale/darndale/29-buttercup-park-darndale-dublin-2437940/
https://www.daft.ie/dublin/houses-for-sale/clondalkin/22-greenfort-gardens-clondalkin-dublin-2551158/
https://www.daft.ie/dublin/houses-for-sale/balbriggan/37-moylaragh-drive-balbriggan-dublin-2321611/

L1011

It may be priced that way expecting a neighbour to buy it to knock through - as has happened at least twice before in that block

Site was a former hotel, burnt down, not sure how much of the original structure is left if any at all. Explains the odd location and the beach access etc.

dotsman

I don't think the location is that great. A nice view outside the dinky little balcony, but that's it. Especially when you ask - who will live there?

For apartments, you are typically talking about young people. But it's very far outside the city center

Also, it is completely impractical from a living perspective - just take a look at the dimensions of bedroom 2. How do you even fit a bed in there? Also, the only access to the dinky balcony is via bedroom 2! How do you have friends over? Entertain people etc?

Ultimately, it's a brutal design. It should be a small 1-bed apartment.

I would strongly advice against anybody buying that for a home. Only a slumlord would consider investing.

For similar money, you can get a far, far larger apartments in vastly superior locations...

https://www.daft.ie/dublin/apartments-for-sale/dublin-2/apartment-36-clarendon-hall-dublin-2-dublin-2551116/
https://www.daft.ie/dublin/apartments-for-sale/dublin-1/21-malton-house-custom-house-square-dublin-1-dublin-2544103/
https://www.daft.ie/dublin/apartments-for-sale/dublin-2/apartment-3-block-1-gallery-quay-dublin-2-dublin-2534056/
https://www.daft.ie/dublin/apartments-for-sale/dublin-1/127-scarriff-house-custom-house-square-dublin-1-dublin-2330552/
https://www.daft.ie/dublin/apartments-for-sale/dublin-1/82-fasnet-custom-house-harbour-ifsc-dublin-1-dublin-2525886/
https://www.daft.ie/dublin/apartments-for-sale/dublin-1/8-gandon-house-custom-house-square-mayor-street-ifsc-dublin-1-dublin-2477125/
https://www.daft.ie/dublin/apartments-for-sale/smithfield/apartment-37-block-a-smithfield-dublin-2437751/

Ray Palmer

Smouse156 wrote: »

Nothing to do with Dubai, just to point out that in an expensive city a standard 1-bed which is far cheaper than Dublin now is at least 60sqm. More to do with Rip-off Republic

It really depends on who you are talking about being ripped off. The labourers that built your place were not paid well and were mistreated by all accounts. So for your cheap place somebody was mistreated. They also have pretty much as much land as they need and it isn't scarce.

Are you treated any differently to the locals? I heard that foreigners are treated like 2nd class citizens. Any restrictions on freedom like not being able to criticise the government or have a drink?

Muahahaha

Would imagine about 80-100k of the price on that is the premium for the view. Also its an uninterrupted view which are pretty rare to find, lots of properties with sea views also have them interrupted by things like roads in front, neighbours roofs, trees, electricity poles and wires. Its pretty rare to find a view that is completely uninterrupted.

the_pen_turner

It's only worth what someone is willing g to buy it for. Someone must be spending g that much on it

Marcusm

dotsman wrote: »

I don't think the location is that great. A nice view outside the dinky little balcony, but that's it. Especially when you ask - who will live there?

For apartments, you are typically talking about young people. But it's very far outside the city center

Also, it is completely impractical from a living perspective - just take a look at the dimensions of bedroom 2. How do you even fit a bed in there? Also, the only access to the dinky balcony is via bedroom 2! How do you have friends over? Entertain people etc?

Ultimately, it's a brutal design. It should be a small 1-bed apartment.

I would strongly advice against anybody buying that for a home. Only a slumlord would consider investing.

For similar money, you can get a far, far larger apartments in vastly superior locations...

https://www.daft.ie/dublin/apartments-for-sale/dublin-2/apartment-36-clarendon-hall-dublin-2-dublin-2551116/
https://www.daft.ie/dublin/apartments-for-sale/dublin-1/21-malton-house-custom-house-square-dublin-1-dublin-2544103/
https://www.daft.ie/dublin/apartments-for-sale/dublin-2/apartment-3-block-1-gallery-quay-dublin-2-dublin-2534056/
https://www.daft.ie/dublin/apartments-for-sale/dublin-1/127-scarriff-house-custom-house-square-dublin-1-dublin-2330552/
https://www.daft.ie/dublin/apartments-for-sale/dublin-1/82-fasnet-custom-house-harbour-ifsc-dublin-1-dublin-2525886/
https://www.daft.ie/dublin/apartments-for-sale/dublin-1/8-gandon-house-custom-house-square-mayor-street-ifsc-dublin-1-dublin-2477125/
https://www.daft.ie/dublin/apartments-for-sale/smithfield/apartment-37-block-a-smithfield-dublin-2437751/

I’d imagine practically no overlap between the likely purchaser of the Howrah apartment (who will be there for their view of the location, likely early retirement couple IMO) and the suite of inner city apartments which you have secured many of which would be regarded as secondary if not tertiary city centre apartment locations.

I can’t see the same person considering them as alternatives.

dotsman

Marcusm wrote: »

I’d imagine practically no overlap between the likely purchaser of the Howrah apartment (who will be there for their view of the location, likely early retirement couple IMO) and the suite of inner city apartments which you have secured many of which would be regarded as secondary if not tertiary city centre apartment locations.

I can’t see the same person considering them as alternatives.

You're right, I can't see them being the same people either. My issue is I can't see the howth apartment as being suitable for anybody (young professionals, students, families, retired couples).

It is completely unsuitable for a retired couple. Even as a small 1-bed, it would be tight, but as a 2-bed micro apartment, it is useless for a retired couple, wasting valuable space on a second box-bedroom.

I'm not sure how you are defining secondary or tertiary, but the many of those apartments are in the IFSC. Another was in the Silicon Docks, the other a 2 minute walk from Stephens Green. All of which would be the definition of the ultimate in prime dublin city center location.

antimatterx

You're paying to live in Howth, one of the most desired areas in Dublin. Top quality location.

How much do you expect to pay?

jelly&icecream

Yea, the view/location is what you're paying for. Presuming you could take down the wall between the weird second bedroom and living room (maybe open kitchen into it too) you could make a nice one bed for a retiree given its ground floor.

Graham

antimatterx wrote: »

You're paying to live in Howth, one of the most desired areas in Dublin.

Exactly, and the closest comparable apartment (in terms of a view) is Howth Lodge on the other side of the village at €520k

It's the location and view you're paying for.

jam_mac_jam

It might suit someone trading down. Its a lovely view and Howth is one of the nicest places in Dublin. I would be quite happy living there if I was single or retired.

A sea view is expensive. I have seen places I would consider a rip off. Here not so much. Different people have different priorities. A nice balcony looking at the sea would be fantastic.

Ray Palmer

dotsman wrote: »

You're right, I can't see them being the same people either. My issue is I can't see the howth apartment as being suitable for anybody (young professionals, students, families, retired couples).

It is completely unsuitable for a retired couple. Even as a small 1-bed, it would be tight, but as a 2-bed micro apartment, it is useless for a retired couple, wasting valuable space on a second box-bedroom.

I don't know why you think it so unsuitable for everyone. I see no issue with it for most. The only issue would be a family with more than 1 child. Even then fine for a while.

Perfect for retired couples who sell a large family home and have a holiday home abroad they spend most of the year at. Desirable for them. Older people often need smaller properties so they don't have to walk as much to get to everything.

jam_mac_jam

Also if you are retired you might be sick of cleaning and looking after a big house and be delighted with a small area. I would love it just for the view.

na1

The local council should buy it to rent out to those unfortunate members of our society!

ted1

dotsman wrote: »

I don't think the location is that great. A nice view outside the dinky little balcony, but that's it. Especially when you ask - who will live there?

For apartments, you are typically talking about young people. But it's very far outside the city center

Also, it is completely impractical from a living perspective - just take a look at the dimensions of bedroom 2. How do you even fit a bed in there? Also, the only access to the dinky balcony is via bedroom 2! How do you have friends over? Entertain people etc?

Ultimately, it's a brutal design. It should be a small 1-bed apartment.

I would strongly advice against anybody buying that for a home. Only a slumlord would consider investing.

For similar money, you can get a far, far larger apartments in vastly superior locations...

https://www.daft.ie/dublin/apartments-for-sale/dublin-2/apartment-36-clarendon-hall-dublin-2-dublin-2551116/
https://www.daft.ie/dublin/apartments-for-sale/dublin-1/21-malton-house-custom-house-square-dublin-1-dublin-2544103/
https://www.daft.ie/dublin/apartments-for-sale/dublin-2/apartment-3-block-1-gallery-quay-dublin-2-dublin-2534056/
https://www.daft.ie/dublin/apartments-for-sale/dublin-1/127-scarriff-house-custom-house-square-dublin-1-dublin-2330552/
https://www.daft.ie/dublin/apartments-for-sale/dublin-1/82-fasnet-custom-house-harbour-ifsc-dublin-1-dublin-2525886/
https://www.daft.ie/dublin/apartments-for-sale/dublin-1/8-gandon-house-custom-house-square-mayor-street-ifsc-dublin-1-dublin-2477125/
https://www.daft.ie/dublin/apartments-for-sale/smithfield/apartment-37-block-a-smithfield-dublin-2437751/

They are not better locations. Many people don’t want to live in the city. Especially places like Smithfield or the Docklands

antimatterx

Graham wrote: »

Exactly, and the closest comparable apartment (in terms of a view) is Howth Lodge on the other side of the village at €520k

It's the location and view you're paying for.

Howth Lodge apartments are expensive, but they are pretty big and quality apartments imo.

SouthWesterly

It's, howth. What do you expect? Darndale prices!

antimatterx

You could actually argue that at that price the apartment is a bargain.

EB_2013

ted1 wrote: »

They are not better locations. Many people don’t want to live in the city. Especially places like Smithfield or the Docklands

I'd have the Howth apartment over any city centre location. Okay it might be a pain in the summer months with people passing by on the footpath outside and public beach just below but the views are worth it. Plus Howth is a great location, the Dart is only a walk away and plenty of amenities in the town. I think it is a bit overpriced due to the condition but it's Howth with a sea view.

shivermetimber

I'm all for small living but no way should it be a 2 bed and pricing it as such is laughable. Something would need to be knocked as floorplan is terrible. It's got a kitchen with 3 foot between the counter and wall, a 26sq ft toilet and the 2nd 'bedroom' is 6 foot wide.

Ray Palmer

shivermetimber wrote: »

I'm all for small living but no way should it be a 2 bed and pricing it as such is laughable. Something would need to be knocked as floorplan is terrible. It's got a kitchen with 3 foot between the counter and wall, a 26sq ft toilet and the 2nd 'bedroom' is 6 foot wide.

It would be perfect for a single person who works from home. The kitchen is bigger than the standard design of many a council houses that are all around the country. Which also cost as much as that property and are located in Howth but without the view.

I see the box room as an office/occasional bedroom.