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Detective Garda Colm Horkan killed in Castlerea, Roscommon - [MOD WARNING POST #1]

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    #452
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 56,243 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    elperello wrote: »
    Not on a routine patrol but they would have access to them.

    Was thinking the same!


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    #453
    harr
    Registered Users Posts: 4,485 ✭✭✭harr


    walshb wrote: »
    Was thinking the same!
    Unfortunely in this case I don’t think a vest would have saved him .. I can’t imagine all 15 shots hit his torso.


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    #454
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Happy4all wrote: »
    Don't know, but we favour an unarmed police Force, and can't help but feel that If he was unarmed in this instance we wouldn't be talking about a death.

    Unfortunately people will regardless of if they have a firearm or not ,
    Not so long ago we expected gardai to fight crime and handle dangerous people with nothing more than a wooden batten .
    We need better armed guards and more of them
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    #455
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users Posts: 36,152 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Any news on who was responsible? Seems weird no details? What's with the media blackout


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    #456
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    harr wrote: »
    Unfortunely in this case I don’t think a vest would have saved him .. I can’t imagine all 15 shots hit his torso.

    He was only hit several times according to reports , vests only protect the central mass , you can still be fatally wounded wearing one ,
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    #457
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,800 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Any news on who was responsible? Seems weird no details? What's with the media blackout

    A local person with mental issues known to many in the town and surrounding areas.


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    #458
    [Deleted User]
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    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Any news on who was responsible? Seems weird no details? What's with the media blackout

    There is no blackout.
    Media have said there is a man in his 40s in custody having been arrested after the incident.
    Investigations are ongoing. Should the man be charged & brought to court it will be reported then.


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    #459
    Charles Babbage
    Registered Users Posts: 5,788 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Happy4all wrote: »
    Don't know, but we favour an unarmed police Force, and can't help but feel that If he was unarmed in this instance we wouldn't be talking about a death.


    If he had drawn his gun, then we might have had a different death.


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    #460
    LeBash
    Registered Users Posts: 3,543 ✭✭✭LeBash


    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    Isn't it Norway that could only give a mass murderer a sentence of 21 years?

    Not a great system there IMO to give as an example.

    Thats the the 1 in a 1 million example to take. Also the law on sentence and a prison rehab are 2 different things.

    The system has been proven to rehabilitate people. They have a tiny rate of people who offend again.

    I heard that it doesn't pass some human rights charter in the EU but that could be bull plop.


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    #461
    The Black Oil
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    https://twitter.com/ItsGillen/status/1273709743069179907

    Moderator: Television, Psychology and Dublin County North.

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    #462
    glenfieldman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭glenfieldman


    I cant wait to see how many people march for this innocent man that was killed doing his job


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    #463
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 56,243 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    harr wrote: »
    Unfortunely in this case I don’t think a vest would have saved him .. I can’t imagine all 15 shots hit his torso.

    Indeed.

    But I don’t believe it has been confirmed how many shots/bullets hit the deceased..


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    #464
    shaveAbullock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭shaveAbullock


    walshb wrote: »
    Indeed.

    But I don’t believe it has been confirmed how many shots/bullets hit the deceased..

    4 hit is what has been reported.


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    #465
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 69,154 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    RIP to Det. Garda Horkan, senseless loss of life.


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    #466
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users Posts: 15,679 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    First thing that came to mind is that during the struggle his gun fell on the ground and then the perpetrator took it


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    #467
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 56,243 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    He had only been a detective 3 weeks ago..

    I wonder if the lack of detective experience was at all a factor?

    Hey, could happen to anyone, of course.

    In the U.S. only 4 single cases in 2018 of this happening...


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    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    walshb wrote: »
    He had only been a detective 3 weeks ago..

    I wonder if the lack of detective experience was at all a factor?

    He was coming up on 25 years as serving Garda it's hardly inexperience
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    #469
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 56,243 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Gatling wrote: »
    He was coming up on 25 years as serving Garda it's hardly inexperience

    Detective...

    3 weeks a detective...

    It is a different role..


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    Rmgblue
    Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭Rmgblue


    walshb wrote: »
    Detective...

    3 weeks a detective...

    It is a different role..

    Years, 3 years. It's a different title. He was more than experienced


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    #471
    Rodin
    Registered Users Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭Rodin


    Far too much pointless speculation here.


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    #472
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 56,243 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Rmgblue wrote: »
    Years, 3 years. It's a different title. He was more than experienced

    Ok, three years.

    Barry Cummins on Primetime said 3 weeks..


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    #473
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 56,243 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Witcher wrote: »
    He would have been years working with the DDU as an unappointed detective carrying a gun before being 'appointed' and getting the detective title. You don't go from working the Regular straight to being an appointed detective.

    I know this. All the training and preparation ...

    Just kind of the official 3 weeks into it.

    Anyway, now being reported as 3 years..


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    #474
    shaveAbullock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭shaveAbullock


    glenfieldman wrote: »
    Its a bit suspicious that every political party and institution have commiserated in the media except Pavee Point

    How did you even notice this?
    People need to stop trying to make this tragedy fit whatever agenda they have.


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    #475
    nacho libre
    Registered Users Posts: 16,838 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    glenfieldman wrote: »
    I would say because the mudering scumbag was a taveller that was beating the **** out of his wife

    He is not a traveller. He is not married either.


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    #476
    Sparkey84
    Registered Users Posts: 289 ✭✭Sparkey84


    glenfieldman wrote: »
    Its a bit suspicious that every political party and institution have commiserated in the media except Pavee Point

    i assumed at first it would be a hardened criminal with numerous previous convictions. now it looks as though it may be a mental health or behavioural emergency issue. either way the background of the person is of little relevance. this is about a tragedy that became one individual not a political or cultural divide


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    MeMen2_MoRi_
    Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    glenfieldman wrote: »
    Its a bit suspicious that every political party and institution have commiserated in the media except Pavee Point

    When did pavee point become a political party? How many seats did they run/win in the last election..


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    #478
    glenfieldman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭glenfieldman


    MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »
    When did pavee point become a political party? How many seats did they run/win in the last election..

    Where did I say Pavee Point are a political party ?


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    #479
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users Posts: 17,853 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    glenfieldman wrote: »
    I cant wait to see how many people march for this innocent man that was killed doing his job

    Hes a white man , doesn't matter. It's not cool to be seen mentioning them and their privilege on social media....

    Wonder what excuse the judge might come out with " disadvantaged background " etc , the usual ****. The problem is the judges living a world apart from this scum... on top of the legal gravy train, choo, chooop!

    Explains why fg have been a farce on" law and order " huge amounts of money to be made , with endless repeat offenders....


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    #480
    Timmyr
    Registered Users Posts: 369 ✭✭Timmyr


    nacho libre wrote: »
    He is not a traveller. He is not married either.

    RIP


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    #481
    Sparkey84
    Registered Users Posts: 289 ✭✭Sparkey84


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    Hes a white man , doesn't matter. It's not cool to be seen mentioning them and their privilege on social media....

    WTF????

    this is not about george floyd lads nor is it a race thing afaik, the man your talking about was a real person and should not be a social media pawn


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