Can we have some fcuking control on the airports from high risk countries please?

Happydays2020

scouserstation wrote: »

There are so many potholes in this hotel quarantine "Plan" thats its hard to know where to start, the lunatics really have taken over the asylum

Its grand though. The army will look after it.

Happydays2020

votecounts wrote: »

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1374451342484279301

Surprised there has been so many bookings

Do you need to fly in to make a booking? Dying for a trip anywhere.

Dempo1

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Its grand though. The army will look after it.

I'm full of confidence (not) the Brigadier at the ridiculous press conference announcing this debacle earlier looked completely bored.

monkeybutter

faceman wrote: »

Of course the elephant in the room with all this is in a months time and all these disease riddled foreigners bringing their variants ashore alongside their duty free amounts to being sideshow while cases continue to rise domestically

Who can we point the finger of blame at then?

People seem to thing that once the detention centres are up and running that it’s a problem solved

Watch this space

Oh btw, Donnelly confirmed that the state is carrying the cost of the system as there are fixed costs to be paid to the hotels. In other words there’s quotas

you sound like someone who could do with a stay in a quarantine hotel


its all getting to ya

Dempo1

Dempo1 wrote: »

Just cracks me up, the name gov gave this site & the home page, Quarantine Hotels Ireland, I'm sure Failte Ireland cringing .

All that's missing is an image of the grim Reeper holding a money bag

https://www.quarantinehotelsireland.ie/

Not even the grim reaper would hang around on the boardwalk

Happydays2020

Aegir wrote: »

Not even the grim reaper would hang around on the boardwalk

Indeed but they are throwing in two free tests...

12 Night Quarantine Package - Rate includes overnight accommodation for 12 nights, Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner. Rate also includes transfer from Airport/Port to hotel and security. You will also be provided with 2 tests for Covid-19, free of charge.

If the room configuration you require is not available to book online please contact us at reservations@quarantinehotelsireland.ie show less

Chris_5339762

suicide_circus wrote: »

Ah right. Presumably the SA variant is present in all it's neighbours by now though.

I haven't seen any reports of that.... by the looks of it (and this is just me talking), the B117 Kent variant is outcompeting both the SA variant and the Brazil variant here. They aren't taking over, B117 is/has.

faceman

Dempo1 wrote: »

Curious, Donnelly said earlier today this charade would be cost neutral and wouldn't cost the state anything, unless I misheard albeit Donnelly quite adept at going around in circle's with his notions

The state covers the costs of any detainees who test positive and need to stay longer. He said that it is intended to be “cost neutral but certain fixes costs will apply”

mean gene

can incoming passengers from red zone countries fly into the north and get a bus down

Red Silurian

faceman wrote: »

The state covers the costs of any detainees who test positive and need to stay longer. He said that it is intended to be “cost neutral but certain fixes costs will apply”

1700 should cover a 12 night stay with 3 meals a day plus transfers with plenty of money left over to spare

Even if it costs the taxpayer a couple of million it's small change by comparison to the cost of having 30% of the population unemployed

Red Silurian

mean gene wrote: »

can incoming passengers from red zone countries fly into the north and get a bus down

Yes but they'd be subject to hotel quarantine in the North

Sharpyshoot

Stephen Donnelly was like super man on the radio with this hotel quarantine malarkey today.

normanoffside

votecounts wrote: »

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1374451342484279301

Surprised there has been so many bookings

26? Are their names all variations of:

Stef Donnelly
Stephen O Donaill.
Steve O'Donnell
Stephanie Mc Donnell

etc?

Chivito550

faceman wrote: »

Mauritius is on the list purely because it’s a copy and paste from the U.K. list. Mauritius is on the U.K. list over a territory dispute in retaliation for not backing down to the brits. At the time of the list’s preparation, there had only been 23 cases in Mauritius over a 6 week period.

This is beyond farcical, comical and shameful in equal measure. Mauritius have a population of 1.25 million, yet have had just 809 cases, only 10 deaths, and no deaths in 11 months.

Our government is so incompetent.

votecounts

Red Silurian wrote: »

Yes but they'd be subject to hotel quarantine in the North

you sure about that, thought the requirement was just to self isolate at home, Only england has this hotel quarantine

expectationlost

mean gene wrote: »

can incoming passengers from red zone countries fly into the north and get a bus down

they are no flights from red list countries to belfast

josip

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Indeed but they are throwing in two free tests...

12 Night Quarantine Package - Rate includes overnight accommodation for 12 nights, Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner. Rate also includes transfer from Airport/Port to hotel and security. You will also be provided with 2 tests for Covid-19, free of charge.

If the room configuration you require is not available to book online please contact us at reservations@quarantinehotelsireland.ie show less

Is a reservation fully refundable up to 48 hours beforehand?
Leo told us a while ago to make sure any bookings we made this summer could be canceled at short notice.

irishproduce

Enforcement is the issue here just the same as it's a problem with our general criminality on a day to day basis.
Society here is gone to a softy soft approach to everything so no one wants to enforce anything and so you end up with those who have no regard, just carrying on with their business. All the while notional rules are in place but not actually enforced

faceman

Red Silurian wrote: »

1700 should cover a 12 night stay with 3 meals a day plus transfers with plenty of money left over to spare

Even if it costs the taxpayer a couple of million it's small change by comparison to the cost of having 30% of the population unemployed

You’re deluded if you think these detention centres will make any difference in Ireland

Chris_5339762

expectationlost wrote: »

https://twitter.com/lostexpectation/status/1363203545881845761

Who is actually going to volunteer that information though. AFAIK the north and south aren't sharing passenger data so that rule is meaningless in reality.

Dempo1

Red Silurian wrote: »

1700 should cover a 12 night stay with 3 meals a day plus transfers with plenty of money left over to spare

Even if it costs the taxpayer a couple of million it's small change by comparison to the cost of having 30% of the population unemployed

That's assuming this farce works and it won't and you can be 100% sure this will cost the tax payer millions, watch this space

Dempo1

Sharpyshoot wrote: »

Stephen Donnelly was like super man on the radio with this hotel quarantine malarkey today.

I didn't hear, just the mention of his name force"s an uncontrollable reaction & urge to switch off, mute or switch over. He's insufferable, the "I know best attitude" just drives me insane, he sounds like one of those deluded American motivational speakers. If he could hear himself talk, he'd shut up. I'm just amazed he's lasted this long.

BorneTobyWilde

''Fcking control at the airport''

I guess the hotels are the answer.

JP Liz V1

mean gene wrote: »

can incoming passengers from red zone countries fly into the north and get a bus down

They can fly to the UK and come to NI and ROI

expectationlost

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

They can fly to the UK and come to NI and ROI

they would be obliged to follow the UK's quarantine system

Rodin

They're not being charged half enough.
The main point to quarantine is to deter travel.

bluelamp

faceman wrote: »

Of course the elephant in the room with all this is in a months time and all these disease riddled foreigners bringing their variants ashore alongside their duty free amounts to being sideshow while cases continue to rise domestically

Who can we point the finger of blame at then?

People seem to thing that once the detention centres are up and running that it’s a problem solved

Watch this space

Oh btw, Donnelly confirmed that the state is carrying the cost of the system as there are fixed costs to be paid to the hotels. In other words there’s quotas

Absolutely. It's just pandering to the zero covid crowd.

Ireland has become obsessed with blame, and when that particular "risk" is removed or proven to be safe, the permanently outraged will move on to something else.

The government need to stop listening to the doom merchants, because it doesn't matter what restrictions they bring in - you will never make these miserable people happy. They've spent their lives whinging before covid and they will continue to whinge after it too.

For example:

Rodin wrote: »

They're not being charged half enough.
The main point to quarantine is to deter travel.

Rodin

bluelamp wrote: »

Absolutely. It's just pandering to the zero covid crowd.

Ireland has become obsessed with blame, and when that particular "risk" is removed or proven to be safe, the permanently outraged will move on to something else.

The government need to stop listening to the doom merchants, because it doesn't matter what restrictions they bring in - you will never make these miserable people happy. They've spent their lives whinging before covid and they will continue to whinge after it too.

For example:

Tell me how different variants got here...an island.

Oranage2

Rodin wrote: »

They're not being charged half enough.
The main point to quarantine is to deter travel.

Deter travel from countries that aren't really major players in the travel scene.

Rodin

Oranage2 wrote: »

Deter travel from countries that aren't really major players in the travel scene.

Id be deterring travel from ALL countries for ALL travellers. Irrespective of passport.