Can we have some fcuking control on the airports from high risk countries please?

josip

Rodin wrote: »

Id be deterring travel from ALL countries for ALL travellers. Irrespective of passport.

ALL travelers?
Including truck drivers?
Including the workers who travel here to service and maintain essential equipment, like hospital ventilators?

Rodin

josip wrote: »

ALL travelers?
Including truck drivers?
Including the workers who travel here to service and maintain essential equipment, like hospital ventilators?

The truck drivers don't need to come in. Only their cargo.
Don't need so many ventilators these days.

josip

Rodin wrote: »

The truck drivers don't need to come in. Only their cargo.
Don't need so many ventilators these days.

You do realise that it's been explained here many times that Dublin Port does not have the capacity for unaccompanied HGVs?

bluelamp

Rodin wrote: »

Don't need so many ventilators these days.

It's great isn't it.

Nowhere near as dangerous as we thought last year. Nowhere near the expected fatality rate, numbers of deaths, or even cases.

Even with the super deadly variants.

Away With The Fairies

Does anyone know if the hotel staff have been vaccinated and what staff have they got? Is it regular people or people more qualified for a quarantining centre?

Van.Bosch

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Does anyone know if the hotel staff have been vaccinated and what staff have they got? Is it regular people or people more qualified for a quarantining centre?

Regular staff, no vaccines yet.

Rodin

josip wrote: »

You do realise that it's been explained here many times that Dublin Port does not have the capacity for unaccompanied HGVs?

Then we can find some way around it.
What we don't need is a load of Brazilian meat factory workers coming back from the Favelas bringing who knows what.
10k for their quarantine will stop them travelling. If they still do, make it 20k. Repeat.

Rodin

bluelamp wrote: »

It's great isn't it.

Nowhere near as dangerous as we thought last year. Nowhere near the expected fatality rate, numbers of deaths, or even cases.

Even with the super deadly variants.

You can thank the lockdown.
The experts have no appetite for seeing scenes like Brazil here and gloating "I told ya so." This virus is very real.

bluelamp

Rodin wrote: »

What we don't need is a load of Brazilian meat factory workers coming back from the Favelas bringing who knows what.

It's very clear your issue with foreign nationals goes far beyond your concern for covid.

Away With The Fairies

Rodin wrote: »

They're not being charged half enough.
The main point to quarantine is to deter travel.

Ah but sure, we've always welcomed tourists in. Covid or no covid, that doesn't change with us.

Away With The Fairies

Van.Bosch wrote: »

Regular staff, no vaccines yet.

Well, they should be prioritized for vaccines. If hotel quarantining is starting this week, all mandatory hotel staff should get their vaccines tomorrow. Who the fück thought of all this?

Van.Bosch

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Well, they should be prioritized for vaccines. If hotel quarantining is starting this week, all mandatory hotel staff should get their vaccines tomorrow. Who the fück thought of all this?

Yeah, agree

Rodin

bluelamp wrote: »

It's very clear your issue with foreign nationals goes far beyond your concern for covid.

Id lock up Irish nationals too. I don't care what the inbound traveller's passport is.

gozunda

Uk enhancing its holiday travel restrictions. Id say they're trying to keep the lid on all those itchy feet sun worshippers.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/how-to-avoid-5000_uk_6059a290c5b6f12839d72a14?ncid=flipboard-HP

Rodin

gozunda wrote: »

Uk enhancing its holiday travel restrictions. Id say they're trying to keep the lid on all those itchy feet sun worshippers.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/how-to-avoid-5000_uk_6059a290c5b6f12839d72a14?ncid=flipboard-HP

As they should. They have the golden ticket close at hand with re-opening up domestically and getting the domestic economy going.

JP Liz V1

Oranage2 wrote: »

Deter travel from countries that aren't really major players in the travel scene.

What is the full list of countries? I heard Brazil and South Africa but they don't fly direct to Ireland

ssflyer

Rodin wrote: »

The truck drivers don't need to come in. Only their cargo.
Don't need so many ventilators these days.

Okay it’s obvious at this stage you work for the Hse. The useless part ( no discussion unless u prove otherwise and I might apologise)
Besides we live on an island who’s highly integrated into Europe. To say we’re not is a lie. The thing is we don’t live on the island alone, there is a border pretty big one to deal with. As I’ve said before antigen and pcr all good. Red lists outside Europe I’m fine with a ban. The above statement proves alone you have no idea how the economy even works which is mind blowing so again stop spouting

Oranage2

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

What is the full list of countries? I heard Brazil and South Africa but they don't fly direct to Ireland

African countries

Angola
Botswana
Burundi
Cape Verde
Democratic Republic of the Congo
Lesotho
Malawi
Eswatini
Mauritius
Mozambique
Namibia
Republic of South Africa
Rwanda
Seychelles
Tanzania
Zambia
Zimbabwe

South American countries

Argentina
Bolivia
Brazil
Chile
Colombia
Ecuador
French Guiana
Guyana
Panama
Paraguay
Peru
Suriname
Uruguay
Venezuela

Other countries

Austria
United Arab Emirates

Del Griffith

I knew it was those French Guianans. The whole time I've been saying it, it's them French Guianans at it, flying in here for the Guinness

makeorbrake

votecounts wrote: »

you sure about that, thought the requirement was just to self isolate at home, Only england has this hotel quarantine

expectationlost wrote: »

they would be obliged to follow the UK's quarantine system

So you rock up to Belfast airport - and you tell them you'll be doing the 10 day self isolation in Lovely Leitrim. Are they going to have an issue with that?

expectationlost wrote: »

they are no flights from red list countries to belfast

There are very few direct flights from any red list countries to dublin either. It makes no difference if they're direct or not.

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

What is the full list of countries? I heard Brazil and South Africa but they don't fly direct to Ireland

So get this....I'm in latin america - and I'd be getting a flight to n.america - lets say my 2nd flight leaves new york for dublin. I get to dublin having shared a plane with the yanks and i'd get banged up in the Covid Seasons Intercontinental for 2 weeks and the rest of the plane wouldnt? In what planet does any of this nonsense make sense?

It's all rather moot. It will be changed to all countries once the population has gotten used to the idea. Western governments have to introduce stuff like mandatory masks over the course of months so as to not shock people too much.

josip

Deleted User wrote: »

It's all rather moot. It will be changed to all countries once the population has gotten used to the idea. Western governments have to introduce stuff like mandatory masks over the course of months so as to not shock people too much.

Actually it will be the opposite.
It will quietly disappear in 3 months when over half the adults will be vaccinated and case numbers will be in sharp decline.

josip

josip wrote: »

Actually it will be the opposite.
It will quietly disappear in 3 months when over half the adults will be vaccinated and case numbers will be in sharp decline.

Hopefully, yeah.

Rodin

ssflyer wrote: »

Okay it’s obvious at this stage you work for the Hse. The useless part ( no discussion unless u prove otherwise and I might apologise)
Besides we live on an island who’s highly integrated into Europe. To say we’re not is a lie. The thing is we don’t live on the island alone, there is a border pretty big one to deal with. As I’ve said before antigen and pcr all good. Red lists outside Europe I’m fine with a ban. The above statement proves alone you have no idea how the economy even works which is mind blowing so again stop spouting

What's the argument against quarantining all unnecessary travellers?
We need to drive this virus down at all costs. This will take various strategies. One is to stop importing it.

Rodin

makeorbrake wrote: »

So you rock up to Belfast airport - and you tell them you'll be doing the 10 day self isolation in Lovely Leitrim. Are they going to have an issue with that?

There are very few direct flights from any red list countries to dublin either. It makes no difference if they're direct or not.




So get this....I'm in latin america - and I'd be getting a flight to n.america - lets say my 2nd flight leaves new york for dublin. I get to dublin having shared a plane with the yanks and i'd get banged up in the Covid Seasons Intercontinental for 2 weeks and the rest of the plane wouldnt? In what planet does any of this nonsense make sense?

Of course it makes no sense.
Whole plane should be quarantined.

terenc

What a fantastic corrupt country we live in, Mandatory hotel quarantine comes into effect this coming Friday and 5 large coaches full of fruit workers are unloaded at a government building in Thermonfectin, County Louth Friday , many more have already arrived into this country before this deadline so has to avoid the cost to cronies of this government in relation to there businesses taking workers from other countries.

josip

Now that the vaccines are being rolled out and we can see a viable path to herd immunity over the next few months, we're also seeing an increasing panic among some posters who wanted Zero Covid/to keep us in permanent lockdown/close the borders.
I think they can see that their dream is slipping away from them and they are never going to get what they had been hoping for.

expectationlost

makeorbrake wrote: »

So you rock up to Belfast airport - and you tell them you'll be doing the 10 day self isolation in Lovely Leitrim. Are they going to have an issue with that?

There are very few direct flights from any red list countries to dublin either. It makes no difference if they're direct or not.

I was replying to the question asked

Originally Posted by mean gene
can incoming passengers from red zone countries fly into the north and get a bus down

JP Liz V1

Oranage2 wrote: »

African countries

Angola
Botswana
Burundi
Cape Verde
Democratic Republic of the Congo
Lesotho
Malawi
Eswatini
Mauritius
Mozambique
Namibia
Republic of South Africa
Rwanda
Seychelles
Tanzania
Zambia
Zimbabwe

South American countries

Argentina
Bolivia
Brazil
Chile
Colombia
Ecuador
French Guiana
Guyana
Panama
Paraguay
Peru
Suriname
Uruguay
Venezuela

Other countries

Austria
United Arab Emirates

No EU, USA or UK

JojoLoca

josip wrote: »

Actually it will be the opposite.
It will quietly disappear in 3 months when over half the adults will be vaccinated and case numbers will be in sharp decline.

I really hope so. This hotel quarantine measure is in place only for 3 months and will end in June, which is also when EU and most of countries are planning for travel re-opening. It would be really bad if they extend mandatory hotel quarantine to all EU countries, while the rest is will be implementing "Green passes" for travel.