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Can we have some fcuking control on the airports from high risk countries please?
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Niner leprauchan wrote: »Why would she be entitled to it? She wouldn't be entitled it it in a hospital or prison either.
Either way, other than pr does it matter? Test or no test she's in the hotel for the 2 weeks
This is a valid question, one I’ve been wondering.
I was in a traffic accident some years ago. As I was injured I had to be tested for alcohol etc. (There was an oil spill on the road and I wasn’t at fault just in case anyone wants to get high and mighty
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It was just a part of the process so the Garda was very easy going. In hospital I was given 2 choices, blood or urine. I opted for blood as it was quicker. They took 2 vials and I was given 1 to keep should I need it in the future. The other sample was sent to a lab. I always presumed that my sample was there should I need to be independently tested in the event I failed the test.
What happens in this instance if while in quarantine you fail a test thus extending your stay. Are you allowed seek an independent test? Interesting point0 -
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For a poster who seems to know the law you seem to be missing the point, her legal council are building a case they requested it.
Her legal team could call into question if her test was carried out in correct procedure.
Everything now will be used by there legal team.
Medically they are also initiated to a second opinion.
Will no, her legal team didn't request it. Again, this is the mother claiming all this. Her legal team have zero to do with medical issues.
Her legal team also aren't in this thread making legal claims. You are and as such, I have asked YOU about your comments here.This is a valid question, one I’ve been wondering.
I was in a traffic accident some years ago. As I was injured I had to be tested for alcohol etc. (There was an oil spill on the road and I wasn’t at fault just in case anyone wants to get high and mighty)
It was just a part of the process so the Garda was very easy going. In hospital I was given 2 choices, blood or urine. I opted for blood as it was quicker. They took 2 vials and I was given 1 to keep should I need it in the future. The other sample was sent to a lab. I always presumed that my sample was there should I need to be independently tested in the event I failed the test.
What happens in this instance if while in quarantine you fail a test thus extending your stay. Are you allowed seek an independent test? Interesting point
That's written into the criminal law because you will be prosecuted if your sample shows a concentration above the limits. These two aren't being prosecuted based on test results.
Let's examine what would occur if you got an independent test. Which is believed? How do you prove it is your private test and not the state one and will it have any actual impact on your stay in the hotel? The answer is no because the law states that in returning a negative test from the hse you can feck of 2 days early.
It would be different if it was a medical malpractice situation but as it is, I don't see how it benefits anyone. It's just the mother throwing another tantrum about how life is so unfair. They are 25 and 30. Old enough to have kids, old enough to go on holiday alone, old enough to face the consequences of their actions and speak for themselves.Furthermore the family who were in court to support the two girls, when asked outside the court by a reporter, do you have any comment to make , one of the Fathers told the reporter to "Fcuk off" , told said reporter "You can print that also".
There is also a lot of chatter online that the legal representative being used by the two girls under free legal aid, is used a lot by the criminal fraternity in the Dublin underworld.
the other issue who was minding their children when they were in Dubai, this was a bail application escuse used by the two???
the father's a typical wannabe hardman that thinks he can shout good way out of situations. Gave his daughter bad advise and tried to bully the Gardai and judge on the day in court as well. Didn't work out well for him or her.
All the online stuff about the kinehan convection send to be based on nothing more than their choice of holiday destination. If they chose columbia they wouldn't be associated with the escobar's so unless I see something solid about that, I'll leave it.
As for the defense team, well they are Criminal defence solicitors and barristers. Obviously they are used by the Criminal underworld
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Niner leprauchan wrote: »Will no, her legal team didn't request it. Again, this is the mother claiming all this. Her legal team have zero to do with medical issues.
Her legal team also aren't in this thread making legal claims. You are and as such, I have asked YOU about your comments here.
That's written into the criminal law because you will be prosecuted if your sample shows a concentration above the limits. These two aren't being prosecuted based on test results.
Let's examine what would occur if you got an independent test. Which is believed? How do you prove it is your private test and not the state one and will it have any actual impact on your stay in the hotel? The answer is no because the law states that in returning a negative test from the hse you can feck of 2 days early.
It would be different if it was a medical malpractice situation but as it is, I don't see how it benefits anyone. It's just the mother throwing another tantrum about how life is so unfair. They are 25 and 30. Old enough to have kids, old enough to go on holiday alone, old enough to face the consequences of their actions and speak for themselves.
the father's a typical wannabe hardman that thinks he can shout good way out of situations. Gave his daughter bad advise and tried to bully the Gardai and judge on the day in court as well. Didn't work out well for him or her.
All the online stuff about the kinehan convection send to be based on nothing more than their choice of holiday destination. If they chose columbia they wouldn't be associated with the escobar's so unless I see something solid about that, I'll leave it.
As for the defense team, well they are Criminal defence solicitors and barristers. Obviously they are used by the Criminal underworld
Just to clarify, I’m not trying to suggest that the hse test result isn’t good enough. Just asking the question.
There was a family law court case a few years ago. I knew the barrister. Long story short it was a messy divorce with kids involved. The mother claimed the father wasn’t fit to be a father. HSE investigated and corroborated her story and prepared a report for the court. The father who was innocent, obtained 2 independent reports which l cleared his name. The judge took the independent reports over the hse and the father sued the hse.
Obviously different circumstances similar to my blood test but given quarantine is untested in courts it begs the question as to whether it could be argued that the impartiality in testing is important0 -
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