Can we have some fcuking control on the airports from high risk countries please?

Father Hernandez

saabsaab wrote: »

Everything is flawed but it's better than no quarantine as in 'voluntary' quarantine.

I agree. Why don't we extend that to everyone who tests positive for Covid so we can eradicate it from Ireland?

saabsaab

Father Hernandez wrote: »

I agree. Why don't we extend that to everyone who tests positive for Covid so we can eradicate it from Ireland?

Fair enough.

JP Liz V1

The Great Gatsby wrote: »

Ok, let me see if I can get this straight . . . so, an Irish Citizen who is fully vaccinated, has a negative Covid test three days before arrival, and can self-isolate with family in the middle of nowhere in the west of Ireland, arrives at Shannon airport from USA/Canada/Italy/France, etc and is then put on a bus and taken with other passengers on a 2-3 hour bus trip to a hotel in Dublin to quarantine for 12 days at a cost to that person of at least 2k . . . I'm just trying to get my head around that and what exactly it accomplishes.

Is quarantine hotels only in Dublin, I thought near all operational airports in ROI

M_Murphy57

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Is quarantine hotels only in Dublin, I thought near all operational airports in ROI

Lol, no.

All the passengers in other airports are stuffed into a bus with a driver, probably the defence forces and get bussed to Dublin. Probably creating "dE vArIaNt" that the govt claim we are doing this to avoid.

UDAWINNER

faceman wrote: »

“Your father is about to die. You can’t see him. Just get on with it”

We’ve become monsters.

Plenty of people have missed funeral of close loved ones during this period, not just due to MHQ, they had to get on with it

ninebeanrows

A disgraceful item on RTÉ this evening about a flight ages ago before pre departure testing

What disgraceful reporting

Father Hernandez

UDAWINNER wrote: »

Plenty of people have missed funeral of close loved ones during this period, not just due to MHQ, they had to get on with it

You're dead right but 99.9% of them didn't have to spend 2 weeks in a detention centre at a cost of €1,800 when loved ones are dying.

martingriff

ninebeanrows wrote: »

A disgraceful item on RTÉ this evening about a flight ages ago before pre departure testing

What disgraceful reporting

which one

ninebeanrows

They talk about 3 flights

Then they quote 59 onward cases from airlines that occurred last year before testing that are not related !!!!!

Shameful

ninebeanrows

RTÉ is now worse than daily mail

martingriff

ninebeanrows wrote: »

They talk about 3 flights

Then they quote 59 onward cases from airlines that occurred last year before testing that are not related !!!!!

Shameful

Did not see it

Edit: Do mean where they said that case from 1 flight has been linked to 59 people, See nothing wrong with it

Wasn't there a case where someone who flew home had covid went out infected a couple of friends. Who then infected family where 1 died.

ninebeanrows

RTÉ is now worse than daily mail

ninebeanrows

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0411/1209143-covid-ireland/

Disgusting article

Totally misleading

caveat emptor

Not good news that the P1 variant is making inroads. Very sad about the man who is visiting his dying father. I was under the impression that exceptions can be made in exceptional circumstances. This would appear to apply here and can be mitigated for especially given the circumstances.


https://twitter.com/amymorgangp/status/1381246892286353409?s=20

Overseas flights and variants
Earlier on Sunday, the Department of Health said three Covid-19 outbreaks in the past fortnight have been linked to overseas flights, while the HSE separately said 19 cases of the Brazilian P1 variant have been confirmed in the State.
Two of these outbreaks involved possible variant of concern cases and remain under investigation, it said.
Explaining why quarantine rules must apply to people transiting through designated “high-risk” states requiring mandatory quarantine, a spokeswoman said several cases of in-flight transmission of the virus have been reported during the pandemic.

fm

ninebeanrows wrote: »

RTÉ is now worse than daily mail

While RTE love this kind of ****e, the HSE have conveniently come up with this story. What evidence have they provided other than "some evidence of variants of concern", its ridiculous.

namloc1980

"Variants of concern" is like the new "wet pubs" or "flatten the curve".

zebastein

Question: the rugby team of Leinster need to travel to France to play the semi final of European cup. (1-2may)
What do you see happening?
a) They quarantine 12days (all staff + players ~ 40 people) after their game. That takes almost 10% of the quarantine capacity.
b) They invent an exemption for sports team conveniently just before the game
c) They invent an exemption for work related travels, that benefits other workers in Ireland
d) They use the Belfast loophole

Feria40

zebastein wrote: »

Question: the rugby team of Leinster need to travel to France to play the semi final of European cup. (1-2may)
What do you see happening?
a) They quarantine 12days (all staff + players ~ 40 people) after their game. That takes almost 10% of the quarantine capacity.
b) They invent an exemption for sports team conveniently just before the game
c) They invent an exemption for work related travels, that benefits other workers in Ireland
d) They use the Belfast loophole

Option B I reckon

zebastein

zebastein wrote: »

Question: the rugby team of Leinster need to travel to France to play the semi final of European cup. (1-2may)
What do you see happening?
a) They quarantine 12days (all staff + players ~ 40 people) after their game. That takes almost 10% of the quarantine capacity.
b) They invent an exemption for sports team conveniently just before the game
c) They invent an exemption for work related travels, that benefits other workers in Ireland
d) They use the Belfast loophole

They will have to quarantine I assume as that's the law.

Father Hernandez

zebastein wrote: »

Question: the rugby team of Leinster need to travel to France to play the semi final of European cup. (1-2may)
What do you see happening?
a) They quarantine 12days (all staff + players ~ 40 people) after their game. That takes almost 10% of the quarantine capacity.
b) They invent an exemption for sports team conveniently just before the game
c) They invent an exemption for work related travels, that benefits other workers in Ireland
d) They use the Belfast loophole

Feria40 wrote: »

Option B I reckon

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

They will have to quarantine I assume as that's the law.

Roberto Lopes for Shamrock Rovers would feel hard done by if there are exemptions made for professional sportspeople in Ireland after he did his 2 weeks in detention.

My guess is the IRFU will put massive pressure on the gov and they'll succumb to option B though.

ninebeanrows

Does somebody just need to shout ‘variant of concern’ to abuse my power?

saabsaab

ninebeanrows wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0411/1209143-covid-ireland/

Disgusting article

Totally misleading

Not at all just telling the truth even if some don't and won't accept it.

fly_agaric

ninebeanrows wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0411/1209143-covid-ireland/

Disgusting article

Totally misleading

What's wrong with it?
I see one sentence that might frighten the uninformed who read quickly - is that what you are "disgusted" about??

A spokesperson said there is some evidence that individuals who have already been vaccinated have subsequently been diagnosed with a variant of concern.

Next sentence states there's no way to prove that they actually were vaccinated.

The department also argued that there is no international system that recognises vaccination certificates and no agreed method that could allow people to prove they are vaccinated.

Even if they were, could be they had single dose of a Chinese vaccine for example.

kerrylad1

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

They will have to quarantine I assume as that's the law.

Be very interesting to see how this pans out.I bet its one law for us,but because their "elites" their above the law.A bit like how the TD's are exempt from this travel ban.

Happydays2020

kerrylad1 wrote: »

Be very interesting to see how this pans out.I bet its one law for us,but because their "elites" their above the law.A bit like how the TD's are exempt from this travel ban.

I think it is nuts to begin with. Rugby has managed this very well for many months. Regular testing. Protocols. Bubbles etc.

The big question is if they exempt the men will they do the same for the women?

hotmail.com

Israel taken off the list tonight according to RTE.

Shambles.

At some point, the prisoners in them hotels will all be released.

Valhallapt

Are they going to enforce MHQ for anyone who admits to travelling via Belfast?

namloc1980

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What a shambles of a government.

kerrylad1

Happydays2020 wrote: »

I think it is nuts to begin with. Rugby has managed this very well for many months. Regular testing. Protocols. Bubbles etc.

The big question is if they exempt the men will they do the same for the women?

Dought it.They will just push out,"the men are professional's"narrative.Either way i think all outdoor sports should be allowed.Thats probly for another thread tough.

hotmail.com

Donnelly is clearly an inept idiot with a very poor civil service supporting him.