Can we have some fcuking control on the airports from high risk countries please?

saabsaab · 13-04-2021 6:58pm

I'm sure that they have thought of this and have a plan b.

Feria40 · 13-04-2021 7:03pm

saabsaab wrote: »

I'm sure that they have thought of this and have a plan b.

We disagree on lots saabsaab but I presume you are being sarcastic here?! This Gov struggles enought with Plan A's, plan B is a step too far:pac:

13-04-2021 7:03pm

saabsaab wrote: »

I'm sure that they have thought of this and have a plan b.

Haha!!

It’s called Belfast

faceman · 13-04-2021 7:05pm

Red Silurian wrote: »

Just to elaborate on this, it's a 12 week between the 2 doses for AZ but your point is still a good one... There is also a 2 week wait for Moderna and Biontech after the second dose before full protection is given.. I presume there is similar for AZ and J&J but can't confirm

I’m open to correction on exact numbers, from late March the duration between doses was extended from 12 weeks to 16 for people people due to shortages in supply overall etc

faceman · 13-04-2021 7:06pm

saabsaab wrote: »

I'm sure that they have thought of this and have a plan b.

Plan B is the doubling of capacity to 1100 rooms next week :pac:

is_that_so · 13-04-2021 7:08pm

faceman wrote: »

I’m open to correction on exact numbers, from late March the duration between doses was extended from 12 weeks to 16 for people people due to shortages in supply overall etc

Not because of shortages, more to allow for more investigation of the clotting issue.

saabsaab · 13-04-2021 7:18pm

On another thread a posted has said that airlines are being notified not to allow anyine here without a confirmed place first.

13-04-2021 7:28pm

saabsaab wrote: »

On another thread a posted has said that airlines are being notified not to allow anyine here without a confirmed place first.

It’s reported in the Irish times as a Donnelly quote

Jack1985 · 13-04-2021 7:30pm

Deleted User wrote: »

It’s reported in the Irish times as a Donnelly quote

A Donnelly quote is bi-word in journalism to check other sources.

I'm sure O'Leary will happily oblige by telling him go f*ck himself.

is_that_so · 13-04-2021 7:32pm

Free at last!

Two women who were arrested at Dublin Airport after initially refusing to enter mandatory hotel quarantine are being released from quarantine this evening.

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2021/0413/1209727-niamh-mulreany-kirstie-mcgrath/

joseywhales · 13-04-2021 7:35pm

Like I feel almost sorry for him, anyone with a lick of sense knows that this will be a disaster. It didn't even work in canada.

That irish times article has the inevitable stories of people caring for their mother etc. You can be sure their will be a lot more harrowing stories.

Whilst the americans detain latin american children, ireland detains her own.

josip · 13-04-2021 7:42pm

is_that_so wrote: »

Free at last!

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2021/0413/1209727-niamh-mulreany-kirstie-mcgrath/

No reason given?

zvone · 13-04-2021 7:42pm

saabsaab wrote: »

I'm sure that they have thought of this and have a plan b.

Yes, they can build a camp for them. They can named it.... concentration camp is taken, so lets name it Covid Camps then.

PaulJoseph22 · 13-04-2021 7:54pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Haha!!

It’s called Belfast

Well, we need help from a competent health system. We don’t have a competent government either so perhaps the NHS is our best shot.

Benimar · 13-04-2021 8:00pm

josip wrote: »

No reason given?

Probably negative tests on day 10, so quarantine lifted.

saabsaab · 13-04-2021 8:00pm

zvone wrote: »

Yes, they can build a camp for them. They can named it.... concentration camp is taken, so lets name it Covid Camps then.

Must be lots of places empty around the country to put them in.

Dempo1 · 13-04-2021 8:33pm

normanoffside wrote: »

For anyone studying a language as part of their degree; Erasmus is compulsory and counts as 25% of their total degree. The only option to not doing it is taking a year out and doing the placement the following year, but there are no guarantees to the pandemic being over next year either.
Do you expect these students to out their university degrees and lives permanently on hold until you deem it ok for them to go abroad for study?

So I get your point but how many university students have actually had in class tuition in the past year? So it's fine to travel abroad as part of a degree and not fine to attend classes in Ireland, explain the logic please, I might add the locations some of these students located too had some of the worst covid outbreaks in Europe. To finish, I heard a parent this morning who forked out 9K in fees for current college year and little or no time spent in actual classes.

13-04-2021 9:52pm

The Hotels are full.
This means that Irish Nationals can't return home from designated countries.
I hope people understand the significance of that?
A Country will not accept inbound travel of its own Citizens.

NSAman · 13-04-2021 9:58pm

faceman wrote: »

Plan B is the doubling of capacity to 1100 rooms next week :pac:

Sounds like the Mexican Border at this stage...

Will there be camps?

BUILD THE WALL... BUILD THE WALL!!

normanoffside · 13-04-2021 9:58pm

Dempo1 wrote: »

So I get your point but how many university students have actually had in class tuition in the past year? So it's fine to travel abroad as part of a degree and not fine to attend classes in Ireland, explain the logic please, I might add the locations some of these students located too had some of the worst covid outbreaks in Europe. To finish, I heard a parent this morning who forked out 9K in fees for current college year and little or no time spent in actual classes.

You seem to miss the point that when they went abroad on Erasmus at the start of the Academic year case numbers and restrictions were low throughout Europe. Nobody could have predicted the future at that point.

MrMusician18 · 13-04-2021 10:07pm

Jack1985 wrote: »

A Donnelly quote is bi-word in journalism to check other sources.

I'm sure O'Leary will happily oblige by telling him go f*ck himself.

Why? Checking that passengers meet entry requirements for the destination country is standard practice. I believe there can be quite substantial penalties for airlines allowing passengers to travel without the required visas etc.

copeyhagen · 13-04-2021 10:11pm

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Why? Checking that passengers meet entry requirements for the destination country is standard practice. I believe there can be quite substantial penalties for airlines allowing passengers to travel without the required visas etc.

bit of a difference between a visa and something that the airlines dont have anything to do with, or give a **** about.

a ridiculous setup from the start. come here vaccinated and with a negative test and still have to quarentine.. what a fooking Country.

Jack1985 · 13-04-2021 10:13pm

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Why? Checking that passengers meet entry requirements for the destination country is standard practice. I believe there can be quite substantial penalties for airlines allowing passengers to travel without the required visas etc.

The DoT said this evening very little could be done to police this. For obvious reasons to most.

Dempo1 · 13-04-2021 10:15pm

normanoffside wrote: »

You seem to miss the point that when they went abroad on Erasmus at the start of the Academic year case numbers and restrictions were low throughout Europe. Nobody could have predicted the future at that point.

I again say regardless of numbers being high or low, why was this scheme permitted at any time during a pandemic, access for students to their own colleges here have been restricted for almost a year. I'd also query when numbers of covid cases increased why didn't students return home immediately.

I think it astonishing taxpayer's now expected to pay quarantine expenses for such students but as I've stated previously this entire Mandatory Hotel Quarantine scheme is a farce.

hmmm · 13-04-2021 10:18pm

CEO of Greencore

https://twitter.com/patrick_coveney/status/1382062554130825216

Feria40 · 13-04-2021 10:26pm

hmmm wrote: »

CEO of Greencore

https://twitter.com/patrick_coveney/status/1382062554130825216

CEO of Greencore AND Simon Coveney's brother no less!

josip · 13-04-2021 10:27pm

hmmm wrote: »

CEO of Greencore

https://twitter.com/patrick_coveney/status/1382062554130825216

aka "the brother".

Irish Aris · 13-04-2021 10:29pm

hmmm wrote: »

CEO of Greencore

https://twitter.com/patrick_coveney/status/1382062554130825216

Do I understand correctly that they pretty much cap the number of people that come in the country from the countries in the list?

MrMusician18 · 13-04-2021 10:29pm

copeyhagen wrote: »

bit of a difference between a visa and something that the airlines dont have anything to do with, or give a **** about.

a ridiculous setup from the start. come here vaccinated and with a negative test and still have to quarentine.. what a fooking Country.

The airlines don't issue visas. And the airlines had no problem refusing boarding for turning up with minor errors in documentation so they'll have no problem asking for the MHQ booking reference at check-in.

hmmm · 13-04-2021 10:34pm

Irish Aris wrote: »

Do I understand correctly that they pretty much cap the number of people that come in the country from the countries in the list?

There's nowhere to put you, so yes the border is closed. I don't know what happens if you just turn up. I'm assuming it is chaos.

Can we have some fcuking control on the airports from high risk countries please?

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