Can we have some fcuking control on the airports from high risk countries please?

maestroamado

My friend yesterday told me that a family member who recently returned from Spain.
She went for the vaccine, while there she got a phone call asking why she was not at home.
Just thought people be interested...

bombs away

maestroamado wrote: »

My friend yesterday told me that a family member who recently returned from Spain.
She went for the vaccine, while there she got a phone call asking why she was not at home.
Just thought people be interested...

My friend told me that she knows Boris the bear ðŸ»

maestroamado

maestroamado wrote: »

My friend yesterday told me that a family member who recently returned from Spain.
She went for the vaccine, while there she got a phone call asking why she was not at home.
Just thought people be interested...

Someone posts some nonsense like this occasionally, implying that we are being tracked.

If she did get a phone call, it was just coincidence that she wasn’t at home. Would have been one of the standard calls / texts that are made as a reminder to stay home and to check that the details on the form are still correct. I’ve had many given I’m in and out of Ireland regularly

goingnowhere

maestroamado wrote: »

My friend yesterday told me that a family member who recently returned from Spain.
She went for the vaccine, while there she got a phone call asking why she was not at home.
Just thought people be interested...

And absolutely NOTHING wrong with attending a medical appointment while in travel quarantine at home.

goingnowhere

goingnowhere wrote: »

And absolutely NOTHING wrong with attending a medical appointment while in travel quarantine at home.

Nope, if you are quarantined you should not attend for the vaccine. Been there, done that. Told by HSE not to show up as I would be refused even after the first negative PCR.

The vaccine is not administered to people who have or had within the past 4 weeks, Covid19.

is_that_so

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Nope, if you are quarantined you should not attend for the vaccine. Been there, done that. Told by HSE not to show up as I would be refused even after the first negative PCR.

The vaccine is not administered to people who have or had within the past 6 months, Covid19.

Isn't that 4 weeks? When did it change to six months?

is_that_so

is_that_so wrote: »

Isn't that 4 weeks? When did it change to six months?

Apologies, you are right. Its 6 months in Spain. I have edited my comment

zebastein

maestroamado wrote: »

My friend yesterday told me that a family member who recently returned from Spain.
She went for the vaccine, while there she got a phone call asking why she was not at home.
Just thought people be interested...

A call from a jealous husband ? From the Amazon delivery man ? :pac:
This story checks all the boxes: not a direct story but a friend of a friend, no real details, and an implied conclusion based on an individual case.

Red Silurian

munchkin_utd wrote: »

MHQ has loopholes ? Really ?

Returning from a red list you no longer have to quarantine if you

1. Are fully vaccinated - that's fair enough, I'd even make an argument for partial vaccination (1 dose)

2. Parents travelling with newborn babies

3. Are deemed an essential worker

4. Medical reasons that are unavoidable, imperative and time-sensitive

All are expected to home quarantine, which as we all know most won't bother with

a_squirrelman

Red Silurian wrote: »

Returning from a red list you no longer have to quarantine if you

1. Are fully vaccinated - that's fair enough, I'd even make an argument for partial vaccination (1 dose)

2. Parents travelling with newborn babies

3. Are deemed an essential worker

4. Medical reasons that are unavoidable, imperative and time-sensitive

All are expected to home quarantine, which as we all know most won't bother with

I did

maestroamado

zebastein wrote: »

A call from a jealous husband ? From the Amazon delivery man ? :pac:
This story checks all the boxes: not a direct story but a friend of a friend, no real details, and an implied conclusion based on an individual case.

Well he also told me what changes were expected as regard travel passports which expected he thinks by end of next month so we will see. He may be wrong or it may not be announced yet.
His daughter works Covid frontline...

is_that_so

Some thoughts from people in MHQ in the UK. 9 interviewed in total.

Travellers staying in quarantine hotels in the UK after returning from “red list” countries have complained of “prison-like” conditions, including windows that do not open, a lack of fresh air, exercise and decent food.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/11/uk-travellers-complain-of-prison-like-conditions-in-quarantine-hotels

faceman

maestroamado wrote: »

My friend yesterday told me that a family member who recently returned from Spain.
She went for the vaccine, while there she got a phone call asking why she was not at home.
Just thought people be interested...

This didn’t happen

Red Silurian

a_squirrelman wrote: »

I did

You want a medal? Most won't, they're probably laughing at you

faceman wrote: »

This didn’t happen

How do you know exactly? Are you the friend?

a_squirrelman

Red Silurian wrote: »

You want a medal? Most won't, they're probably laughing at you



How do you know exactly? Are you the friend?

Yes please, actually cut it in half and send it to Coveney and Donnelly.
Or sure keep half and give the other to saab.

maestroamado

faceman wrote: »

This didn’t happen

The cheek of you to suggest some one is a liar.
That's how credible you are... i am repeating what was said to me and i believe it to be true as i know the person...

And to make it worse you are one of the bosses here... leader???

maestroamado

maestroamado wrote: »

The cheek of you to suggest some one is a liar.
That's how credible you are... i am repeating what was said to me and i believe it to be true as i know the person...

And to make it worse you are one of the bosses here... leader???

Your implication was that your friend was called because they were out of their house. Like they were being somehow tracked

But you know that

And we all know that that isn’t what happened. They got the standard phone call that some people get to check that the details on the form are still correct. I’ve had many (mostly texts actually) given that I’m in and out of the country a lot

It just happened to come while they were out, but is totally unconnected with that fact, despite your inference

maestroamado

Deleted User wrote: »

Your implication was that your friend was called because they were out of their house. Like they were being somehow tracked

But you know that

And we all know that that isn’t what happened. They got the standard phone call that some people get to check that the details on the form are still correct. I’ve had many (mostly texts actually) given that I’m in and out of the country a lot

It just happened to come while they were out, but is totally unconnected with that fact, despite your inference

Your talking rubbish, none of us know what happened.
I repeated what was said to me and your friend said it was lies.
I just now noticed a few other eejits agreed with both of you.
I have an intense dislike for liars or people who call people liars without having confirmation.

I also think its something the MODS here should look into....

faceman

maestroamado wrote: »

Your talking rubbish, none of us know what happened.
I repeated what was said to me and your friend said it was lies.
I just now noticed a few other eejits agreed with both of you.
I have an intense dislike for liars or people who call people liars without having confirmation.

I also think its something the MODS here should look into....

I’m not interested in popularity contests. I am interests in facts.

I’m quite familiar with the state’s procedures for “checking” on people post travel. Nobodies movements are being tracked. Anyone who says otherwise is lying.

What could have happened is the mysterious, unverified person, was contacted by phone at a time they happened to not be at home. It’s possible the unverified person told the caller that he/she was not at home due to a medical appointment. Given medical appointments, including vaccinations, are a permitted reason to leave isolation then there is no issue.

Any suggestion that an individual’s movements are being tracked after arriving in Ireland are bare face lies. The belief that the state has some high tech surveillance system monitoring movements in real time is hilarious but also spreading misinformation

faceman

faceman wrote: »

I’m not interested in popularity contests. I am interests in facts.

I’m quite familiar with the state’s procedures for “checking” on people post travel. Nobodies movements are being tracked. Anyone who says otherwise is lying.

What could have happened is the mysterious, unverified person, was contacted by phone at a time they happened to not be at home. It’s possible the unverified person told the caller that he/she was not at home due to a medical appointment. Given medical appointments, including vaccinations, are a permitted reason to leave isolation then there is no issue.

Any suggestion that an individual’s movements are being tracked after arriving in Ireland are bare face lies. The belief that the state has some high tech surveillance system monitoring movements in real time is hilarious but also spreading misinformation

Not vaccination, Its one of the things they ask you before you arrive. Many doctors and dentists will also ask and wont perform any routine / non emergency treatment either.

I missed my vaccination as a result of quarantine rules. Its acceptable to leave for testing

Red Silurian

maestroamado wrote: »

The cheek of you to suggest some one is a liar.
That's how credible you are... i am repeating what was said to me and i believe it to be true as i know the person...

And to make it worse you are one of the bosses here... leader???

Some people like lies though, like the lie that 0.5% of cases in Ireland are travel related I always find funny

Doctor Jimbob

Red Silurian wrote: »

Some people like lies though, like the lie that 0.5% of cases in Ireland are travel related I always find funny

Not as funny as the lie that MHQ keeps out variants though.

Red Silurian

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Not as funny as the lie that MHQ keeps out variants though.

You're missing two words there (or maybe you were proving my point about lies)

MHQ helps to keeps out variants

Do you have proof that if we didn't have MHQ that we would not be swarming in Indian, US or South African variants?

faceman

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Not vaccination, Its one of the things they ask you before you arrive. Many doctors and dentists will also ask and wont perform any routine / non emergency treatment either.

I missed my vaccination as a result of quarantine rules. Its acceptable to leave for testing

A further hole in the OP’s story so!

faceman

faceman wrote: »

A further hole in the OP’s story so!

I should have just lied I guess.

OwenM

Red Silurian wrote: »

You're missing two words there (or maybe you were proving my point about lies)

MHQ helps to keeps out variants

Do you have proof that if we didn't have MHQ that we would not be swarming in Indian, US or South African variants?

Looking for proof that you know doesn't exist because it hasn't been tested isn't contributing much to the conversation. MHQ as operated in Ireland can only potentially delay the introduction of a variant and was only done to calm the baying mob whipped up by the zero covid nutters in ISAG (McConkey, Staines, Killeen, Scally etc)

All of the EMA approved vaccines work against all the variants except the Indian one and that is down to a lack of evidence and not any data that indicates otherwise.

MHQ is a monumental waste of money and is doing long term economic damage which by now has probably ruined any chance of inbound tourism this year.

Doctor Jimbob

Red Silurian wrote: »

You're missing two words there (or maybe you were proving my point about lies)

MHQ helps to keeps out variants

Do you have proof that if we didn't have MHQ that we would not be swarming in Indian, US or South African variants?

We're getting into Russel's teapot territory here.

saabsaab

Red Silurian wrote: »

You're missing two words there (or maybe you were proving my point about lies)

MHQ helps to keeps out variants

Do you have proof that if we didn't have MHQ that we would not be swarming in Indian, US or South African variants?

We would.

Red Silurian

OwenM wrote: »

Looking for proof that you know doesn't exist because it hasn't been tested isn't contributing much to the conversation. MHQ as operated in Ireland can only potentially delay the introduction of a variant and was only done to calm the baying mob whipped up by the zero covid nutters in ISAG (McConkey, Staines, Killeen, Scally etc)

All of the EMA approved vaccines work against all the variants except the Indian one and that is down to a lack of evidence and not any data that indicates otherwise.

MHQ is a monumental waste of money and is doing long term economic damage which by now has probably ruined any chance of inbound tourism this year.

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

We're getting into Russel's teapot territory here.

saabsaab wrote: »

We would.

So we are agreed then that there is no proof that the variants are not largely being kept out witht he help of MHQ... Now lets look at proof that MHQ is effective at keeping the variants out

In the last 14 days there have been zero cases of any variant in New Zealand, China, Thailand, Singapore, Taiwan or Vietnam. That gives an incidence of 0, 5 day average of 0 and 7 day average of 0 cases

So the evidence would suggest that MHQ works in helping to keep variants out

Doctor Jimbob

Red Silurian wrote: »

So we are agreed then that there is no proof that the variants are not largely being kept out witht he help of MHQ... Now lets look at proof that MHQ is effective at keeping the variants out

In the last 14 days there have been zero cases of any variant in New Zealand, China, Thailand, Singapore, Taiwan or Vietnam. That gives an incidence of 0, 5 day average of 0 and 7 day average of 0 cases

So the evidence would suggest that MHQ works in helping to keep variants out

Ah my mistake, I thought we were talking about Ireland.