Can we have some fcuking control on the airports from high risk countries please?

ShineOn7 · 08-01-2021 9:07pm

This country is an embarrassment

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1347613827110727689

ShineOn7 · 10-01-2021 9:46pm

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/more-than-54-000-people-flew-into-state-over-festive-period-1.4453610

More than 54,000 people flew into State over festive period
Almost 1,500 arrived on UK repatriation flights after Covid ban on travel from Britain

The weakest airports in the EU? We must be up there somewhere

Lack of proper quarantine. Lack of follow up calls (12% only last year)

The airports will go down as one of the top 2 or top 3 mistakes this "government" made since March

ShineOn7 · 10-01-2021 9:57pm

Reddit Ireland

What's the point in having a complete domestic lockdown if you leave borders wide open ?

It's akin to having a leak on a small boat.

Then rather than sealing the hole, you spend all you spend time using a bucket to throw the water out.

Spanishpoint · 10-01-2021 11:49pm

nofools wrote: »

I think it is important to keep an open mind about it.

Don't get prematurely into the anti vax conspiracies with all these fears of the new world order but don't blindly trust those with commercial or political interests in rushing things either.

Exactly, it will work but they need some time to develop it

ginoginelli · 10-01-2021 11:51pm

ShineOn7 wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/more-than-54-000-people-flew-into-state-over-festive-period-1.4453610

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The weakest airports in the EU? We must be up there somewhere

Lack of proper quarantine. Lack of follow up calls (12% only last year)

The airports will go down as one of the top 2 or top 3 mistakes this "government" made since March

Totally agree. Painfully obvious mistake that has cost many lives and livelihoods.

ginoginelli · 10-01-2021 11:58pm

I know it's not the time for protests but this is really something really worth protesting about. As evident by the poll on here and basically everybody in ireland literally everybody wants proper control at airport's. Even the trolls on here have been clamouring for it!

This is a critical life and death issue now. We deserve to be protected.

11-01-2021 12:15am

ginoginelli wrote: »

I know it's not the time for protests but this is really something really worth protesting about. As evident by the poll on here and basically everybody in ireland literally everybody wants proper control at airport's. Even the trolls on here have been clamouring for it!

This is a critical life and death issue now. We deserve to be protected.

What most people realise is that in actual reality, it's not possible.

radiospan · 11-01-2021 10:02am

What's the latest on whether a negative PCR test is needed to enter the country?

On Tuesday 5th, there were media reports (RTE, Irish Times, The Journal) that cabinet are expected to announce that all travellers into State will have to provide negative PCR test.

When the announcement came shortly afterwards, it was that only travelers from Britain and South Africa will need to provide a negative PCR test: https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0106/1188097-coronavirus-travel/

The Journal seem to have made a mess of their report, where in one sentence they say all countries (based on the early expectation), and later they say Britain and South Africa.

Can anyone clear that up? What requirement is in place now for countries other than Britain and SA?

saabsaab · 11-01-2021 6:22pm

It's obvious that the recent surge in Belmullet and Achill is caused by airtravel home at Christmas. Further proof, if needed is the fact that 20% of new cases are the new UK variant and even 3 cases so far from S Africa!

ceadaoin. · 11-01-2021 7:00pm

Ireland is one of the most high risk countries in the world at this stage, stopping air travel won't do much now.

saabsaab · 11-01-2021 7:08pm

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Ireland is one of the most high risk countries in the world at this stage, stopping air travel won't do much now.

I disagree. Would stop importing new variants and we shouldn't be exporting it either.

The scary bit is that several new variants will emerge before this is all over. Hope fully any of these won't be more deadly or immune to the vaccine. That's why we need to get the vaccine out to as many as possible to stop the spread and give chance to evolve new strains. Bit like a firebreak in a forest fire.

11-01-2021 7:23pm

saabsaab wrote: »

I disagree. Would stop importing new variants and we shouldn't be exporting it either.

The scary bit is that several new variants will emerge before this is all over. Hope fully any of these won't be more deadly or immune to the vaccine. That's why we need to get the vaccine out to as many as possible to stop the spread and give chance to evolve new strains. Bit like a firebreak in a forest fire.

Remarkably, it still isn’t known that the vaccine stops the spread. We only know it stops 90% of people getting sick

saabsaab · 11-01-2021 8:32pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Remarkably, it still isn’t known that the vaccine stops the spread. We only know it stops 90% of people getting sick

If it works like other vaccines it probably will stop the spread. Anyway if people aren't getting sick they probably won't spread it as much.

Fr_Dougal · 11-01-2021 10:32pm

40-50% of new cases are the UK variant.

cloudatlas · 11-01-2021 10:40pm

Holy crap! Ireland had world’s highest Covid-19 infection rate last week

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/ireland-had-world-s-highest-covid-19-infection-rate-last-week-1.4455609

What happened?

saabsaab · 11-01-2021 11:08pm

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

40-50% of new cases are the UK variant.

Even worse than I thought.

Harry Palmr · 12-01-2021 9:08pm

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/news/all-travellers-arriving-in-ireland-must-produce-negative-covid-test-from-this-saturday-39961745.html

From Saturday.

13-01-2021 6:27am

A year later.. Ridiculous.

cloudatlas · 13-01-2021 10:51am

The poll should be changed to 'ban Irish people from leaving to infect others' yes or no?

13-01-2021 5:44pm

cloudatlas wrote: »

The poll should be changed to 'ban Irish people from leaving to infect others' yes or no?

That’s a no from me

Carolam · 13-01-2021 9:10pm

So , I have just found out that my Eastern European neighbour is having friends and family fly over this Friday to celebrate a family birthday in their house this weekend. Like what the hell? Is there any control on tourists flying in at the weekend and staying in someone's house. The Garda have confirmed that there is no real obligation on anyone to self isolate but they shouldn't have a party. Any advice would be appreciated. The house is rented by the way, and mine is owner occupied

saabsaab · 13-01-2021 9:18pm

Carolam wrote: »

So , I have just found out that my Eastern European neighbour is having friends and family fly over this Friday to celebrate a family birthday in their house this weekend. Like what the hell? Is there any control on tourists flying in at the weekend and staying in someone's house. The Garda have confirmed that there is no real obligation on anyone to self isolate but they shouldn't have a party. Any advice would be appreciated. The house is rented by the way, and mine is owner occupied

Let the Guards know if there is a party. Where is this?

Carolam · 13-01-2021 9:20pm

Yeah that's all I can do. It's in Dublin, Northside

ginoginelli · 13-01-2021 9:31pm

Carolam wrote: »

Yeah that's all I can do. It's in Dublin, Northside

100 percent inform guards. Give names and where they are flying from.

Carolam · 13-01-2021 9:34pm

So we can't visit our parents house, yet there is no problem with multiple households flying in from a different country and mixing it up whatever way they want. Why do people not get the seriousness of all of this ?

FrStone · 13-01-2021 10:15pm

Carolam wrote: »

So , I have just found out that my Eastern European neighbour is having friends and family fly over this Friday to celebrate a family birthday in their house this weekend. Like what the hell? Is there any control on tourists flying in at the weekend and staying in someone's house. The Garda have confirmed that there is no real obligation on anyone to self isolate but they shouldn't have a party. Any advice would be appreciated. The house is rented by the way, and mine is owner occupied

Honestly, just ignore it.

They are entitled to enter the country, there is no legal requirement to quarantine.

If the visitors enter the country and all reside in your neighbours house and spend a night enjoying themselves there is no issue. The party would only be illegal if people from other residences come to the house. As they are likely to be residing in the house for their time in Ireland there is nothing illegal happening.

normanoffside · 13-01-2021 10:18pm

Carolam wrote: »

So , I have just found out that my Eastern European neighbour is having friends and family fly over this Friday to celebrate a family birthday in their house this weekend. Like what the hell? Is there any control on tourists flying in at the weekend and staying in someone's house. The Garda have confirmed that there is no real obligation on anyone to self isolate but they shouldn't have a party. Any advice would be appreciated. The house is rented by the way, and mine is owner occupied

It'd be a lot worse if they were coming from Ireland

13-01-2021 11:09pm

Carolam wrote: »

So , I have just found out that my Eastern European neighbour is having friends and family fly over this Friday to celebrate a family birthday in their house this weekend. Like what the hell? Is there any control on tourists flying in at the weekend and staying in someone's house. The Garda have confirmed that there is no real obligation on anyone to self isolate but they shouldn't have a party. Any advice would be appreciated. The house is rented by the way, and mine is owner occupied

As someone else has said, they are not dong anything wrong. They are part of that household for the duration of their stay, and it is not a legal requirement to quarantine or self isolate.

If they went to a 2nd friends house the next night, then they would be in breach. Or if people from other households join this party. But the new arrivals have effectively formed a household.

Dont think that there is anything that the gardai can do in this instance

Tenzor07 · 13-01-2021 11:13pm

Carolam wrote: »

So , I have just found out that my Eastern European neighbour is having friends and family fly over this Friday to celebrate a family birthday in their house this weekend. Like what the hell? Is there any control on tourists flying in at the weekend and staying in someone's house. The Garda have confirmed that there is no real obligation on anyone to self isolate but they shouldn't have a party. Any advice would be appreciated. The house is rented by the way, and mine is owner occupied

Why not call over to the house in question, inform them that you know there's Covid rule breaking going on regarding household mixing etc., and advise them that you will raise this issue with the residents association, house owner and Gardai also?

You'll get nowhere by not tackling the issue directly.

13-01-2021 11:14pm

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Why not call over to the house in question, inform them that you know there's Covid rule breaking going on regarding household mixing etc., and advise them that you will raise this issue with the residents association and Gardai?

You'll get nowhere by not tackling the issue directly.

based on what we've been told, there is no rule breaking going on (assuming they are all staying in the one house)

Can we have some fcuking control on the airports from high risk countries please?

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