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Can we have some fcuking control on the airports from high risk countries please?

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  • #2882
    Danno
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    The UK variant came in via Ports and travellers crossing the border. Are we going to shut the ports and the border?

    As long as Irish residents are geo-fenced to 5km - yes. Enough of the double standards. If ports and borders are open, then the 5km limit has to go. It's an absurd paradox where you are punished because you simply have an eircode.


  • #2883
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Danno wrote: »
    As long as Irish residents are geo-fenced to 5km - yes. Enough of the double standards. If ports and borders are open, then the 5km limit has to go. It's an absurd paradox where you are punished because you simply have an eircode.

    So cross border workers should stay at home. And we should stop freight?

    I am not pretending there is no risk with international travel but we have a reality with the border and membership of the EU. The narrative around travel was completely overblown.


  • #2884
    JoeExotic81
    Registered Users Posts: 340 ✭✭JoeExotic81


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    So cross border workers should stay at home. And we should stop freight?

    I am not pretending there is no risk with international travel but we have a reality with the border and membership of the EU. The narrative around travel was completely overblown.

    Pointless trying to reason with them. Some of these delusional people seem to forget the original covid decimated the world and is here to stay. It's variant this, variant that. Closing the fence after the horse has well and truly bolted.

    The only way to counter it is with vaccines. It's as if people get a kick out of watching another vital industry get destroyed pointlessly, further eliminating human rights and national constitutions.

    I think they're mostly older, bitter people. But maybe some are a strange pathetic bunch who enjoy being subservient. We've a fair few of them in this thread.


  • #2885
    Necro
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,738 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    JoeExotic81 wrote: »
    Weird. Isn't there some weather to obsess over? Absolutely tragic case. There's no keys on a smartphone either you vegetable. Now go lock yourself in your attic or in your case your secret basement for fear one of those new variants blows in a window and takes your virginity.

    Threadbanned


  • #2886
    saabsaab
    Registered Users Posts: 8,214 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Taken from the Examiner


    'at no point have we had a proper system in place to monitor or control the importation of the virus, and various things have been used and not enforced'


    I have to agree. Hope that it changes, at last.


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  • #2887
    fly_agaric
    Registered Users Posts: 4,948 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Ah well, that sheep gif gave me a laugh anyway! Was considering the discussion about cases being brought in over the border (as well as from international travel) earlier in the pandemic.

    It's amazing and very rarely commented on just how much of a sacred cow our fully open border with NI is.

    That the border must be ignored/willed away by Ireland at all costs seems to be a political axiom.

    It is a fixed policy that won't even appear on the agenda for discussion during a once in a century global plague and the wider implications of that are disturbing.


  • #2888
    Red Silurian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,456 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    saabsaab wrote: »
    Taken from the Examiner


    'at no point have we had a proper system in place to monitor or control the importation of the virus, and various things have been used and not enforced'


    I have to agree. Hope that it changes, at last.

    That would be nice but our govt are so inept I can't see it happening


  • #2889
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    JoeExotic81 wrote: »
    ... First you seem to be unaware of how the virus transmits, and now you have seemingly missed the part where international travel has been restricted to within an inch of oblivion.

    And why late is better than never.

    For anyone who thinks restrictions and social distancing are an inconvenience....

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-56424611

    Happy St Patricks day all ...


  • #2890
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,962 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Nearly 11,000 people flew into Dublin Airport last week https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/nearly-11000-people-flew-into-dublin-airport-last-week-1097300.html

    even if this is 90% down on 2 years ago, its probably still not low enough.


  • #2891
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,369 ✭ [Deleted User]


    expectationlost wrote: »
    Nearly 11,000 people flew into Dublin Airport last week https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/nearly-11000-people-flew-into-dublin-airport-last-week-1097300.html

    even if this is 90% down on last 2 years ago, its probably still not low enough.

    People need to travel. Emergencies and commitments don't form an orderly q


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  • #2892
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    expectationlost wrote: »
    Nearly 11,000 people flew into Dublin Airport last week https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/nearly-11000-people-flew-into-dublin-airport-last-week-1097300.html

    even if this is 90% down on last 2 years ago, its probably still not low enough.

    11000 people who tested negative for COVID


  • #2893
    saabsaab
    Registered Users Posts: 8,214 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Niner leprauchan wrote: »
    People need to travel. Emergencies and commitments don't form an orderly q


    Only 40% in a survey this year indicated that they had a valid reason.


  • #2894
    a_squirrelman
    Registered Users Posts: 604 ✭✭✭a_squirrelman


    saabsaab wrote: »
    Only 40% in a survey this year indicated that they had a valid reason.


    Please remove the Starfleet badge, you are not Starfleet material.


  • #2895
    saabsaab
    Registered Users Posts: 8,214 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    a_squirrelman wrote: »
    Please remove the Starfleet badge, you are not Starfleet material.


    A bit off topic.


  • #2896
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,962 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Deleted User wrote: »
    11000 people who tested negative for COVID


    tested negative before traveling to an airport and getting on a plane traveling to another airport, and traveling to their destination where they could pick up the virus.


  • #2897
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,962 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Niner leprauchan wrote: »
    People need to travel. Emergencies and commitments don't form an orderly q
    were they all emergencies and commitments? we don't know because the gov stopped even asking...


  • #2898
    saabsaab
    Registered Users Posts: 8,214 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    expectationlost wrote: »
    were they all emergencies and commitments? we don't know because the gov stopped even asking...


    Many weren't. From a survey back in Jan 60% approx did not give a valid reason and that doesn't count those who weren't telling the truth.


  • #2899
    jrosen
    Registered Users Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭jrosen


    expectationlost wrote: »
    Nearly 11,000 people flew into Dublin Airport last week https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/nearly-11000-people-flew-into-dublin-airport-last-week-1097300.html

    even if this is 90% down on 2 years ago, its probably still not low enough.

    6,500 of those were returning irish people.


  • #2900
    saabsaab
    Registered Users Posts: 8,214 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    jrosen wrote: »
    6,500 of those were returning irish people.


    From what, Holidays?


  • #2901
    jrosen
    Registered Users Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭jrosen


    saabsaab wrote: »
    From what, Holidays?

    Article didnt say. We know people are going on holiday. They have been interviewed at the airport. Then possibly people returning from living abroad.


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  • #2902
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,962 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    jrosen wrote: »
    6,500 of those were returning irish people.




    even the people who aren't Irish may be returning from holidays or unnecessary or unwise trips home.


  • #2903
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,369 ✭ [Deleted User]


    saabsaab wrote: »
    Only 40% in a survey this year indicated that they had a valid reason.

    I travelled multiple times and I was never asked. I'm gonna question that statistic

    There also wasn't a ban on travel for all of that year either but as I have said to people before, of you limit people to absolutely essential travel only, the won't be enough bookings to justify the flight and people that really do need to travel, won't be able to.


  • #2904
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,962 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Niner leprauchan wrote: »
    I travelled multiple times and I was never asked. I'm gonna question that statistic
    did you in fill in a form?


  • #2905
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,369 ✭ [Deleted User]


    expectationlost wrote: »
    did you in fill in a form?

    Only the locator form which is confidential and nothing to do with a newspaper article


  • #2906
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,962 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Niner leprauchan wrote: »
    Only the locator form which is confidential and nothing to do with a newspaper article

    so you were asked.


  • #2907
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    expectationlost wrote: »
    so you were asked.

    I don’t remember my locator forms asking for a reason. And I’ve done a good few


  • #2908
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,962 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I don’t remember my locator forms asking for a reason. And I’ve done a good few

    https://assets.gov.ie/73466/930812b993304eae86dcd09e61125cae.pdf


  • #2909
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    expectationlost wrote: »
    https://assets.gov.ie/73466/930812b993304eae86dcd09e61125cae.pdf

    Yeh, it doesn’t ask that question on the online form that you fill in now

    Try doing it


  • #2910
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,962 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Yeh, it doesn’t ask that question on the online form that you fill in now

    Try doing it
    state no longer asks passengers if their travel is essential
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/state-no-longer-asks-passengers-if-their-travel-is-essential-1.4509047


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  • #2911
    [Deleted User]
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    expectationlost wrote: »
    state no longer asks passengers if their travel is essential
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/state-no-longer-asks-passengers-if-their-travel-is-essential-1.4509047

    The fact that before then I don’t even remember answering the question shows just much attention I paid it and therefore how meaningless it was. Might as well take it out if people are just going to tick a random box on a form


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