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    #212
    jackboy
    Registered Users Posts: 4,598 ✭✭✭jackboy


    AllForIt wrote: »
    So is it the case there are so many 'known' that it's beyond practicability to tail them all? Now that is a worry isn't it. Maybe if there were less foreigners they could tail the 'known' ones.


    Btw, this 'terrorist attacks are rare' comment doesn't sit well with me, not that I think you personally are trying to shurg them off.

    A lot of the people being watched as potential terrorists are second generation British. So these people cannot be deported and stopping immigration will not work either. These people are in Britain to stay.


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    #213
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    ArchXStanton wrote: »
    No many of us are looking at other countries and wondering why we're even going down that road in the first place...

    No I just don't want impotent white supremacists calling the shots.


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    #214
    Yamanoto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,489 ✭✭✭Yamanoto


    It's a feature of these types of incidents, that the offenders across Europe often tend to be feckless losers with a history of petty crime.

    The revocation of leave to remain or other measures to deport n'er-do-wells who are convicted of crime would seem a fair approach to those who are contemptuous of the welcome extended to them.


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    #215
    mick087
    Registered Users Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭mick087


    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    You can't compare because it was and is a bigger problem. The far right are on the rise and I fear a repeat of the Holocaust or the Yugoslavian wars against Muslims and minorities. Some here are salivating at the thought.


    It should not be Muslims and minorities you should fear for but anyone from a unprivileged wealth back ground. White black jews Muslims Christians all coulors all religons.


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    #216
    [Deleted User]
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    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    You can't compare because it was and is a bigger problem. The far right are on the rise and I fear a repeat of the Holocaust or the Yugoslavian wars against Muslims and minorities. Some here are salivating at the thought.

    No you cant compare because islamists dont care what nationality you are.
    IRA was fighting against UK only.
    The far right is on the rise because politicans and media have given them an excuse to rise.
    If politics in Europe was about listening to the people of Europe,we wouldnt have this problem now,and we wouldnt have terrorists either,because we wouldnt have mass immigration out of control.
    Eastern europe doesnt seem to have the same problems as the west,do they?


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    #217
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    No you cant compare because islamists dont care what nationality you are.
    IRA was fighting against UK only.
    The far right is on the rise because politicans and media have given them an excuse to rise.
    If politics in Europe was about listening to the people of Europe,we wouldnt have this problem now,and we wouldnt have terrorists either,because we wouldnt have mass immigration out of control.
    Eastern europe doesnt seem to have the same problems as the west,do they?

    No the far right are on the rise because subhuman trash think foreign people don't deserve to live here.


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    #218
    Bonniedog
    Registered Users Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    You can't compare because it was and is a bigger problem. The far right are on the rise and I fear a repeat of the Holocaust or the Yugoslavian wars against Muslims and minorities. Some here are salivating at the thought.

    :rolleyes:

    You probably think that the Tories are far right.

    The mayhem we are seeing at the moment - Reading last night, Germany, the looting and murders in US are all either directed by the far left or by scum which the far left has decided are to depict as victims no matter what they do.

    As for the Holocaust, the only organized serious anti Semitic movements are eith the jihadists or the lefties who want to destroy Israel, which would actually mean another Holocaust.


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    #219
    joe40
    Registered Users Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    NotMOL wrote: »
    That was almost 30 years ago...well in the past, would you say the threat in the UK now is mainly brown and black nationalist murderers who murder in the name of Allah?

    Yes it was in the past thank goodness, and after the 70s bombings had warnings but we're still plenty of incidents where civilians and police were killed.

    However my point was not comparing the two just trying to put the current risk in perspective.

    There are millions of Muslims living in the UK. These sorts of attacks require no planning and radical islamic terrorist would appear not care about been caught or killed in the attacks. They don't have much of an exact plan.

    Therefore the actual numbers capable of these attacks must be tiny, otherwise they would be a daily occurrence.


    That is my point.
    Using these attacks, dreadful as they are, to implicate Muslims or asylum seeker's is simply wrong. The numbers don't stack up.


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    #220
    stinkypinky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 161 ✭✭stinkypinky


    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    No the far right are on the rise because subhuman trash think foreign people don't deserve to live here.

    You're in the minority.

    5IMZkRt.jpg


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    #221
    [Deleted User]
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    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    No the far right are on the rise because subhuman trash think foreign people don't deserve to live here.

    And who are these subhuman trash as you are refering to?
    The common man in the street that have a different opinion than you?
    That have seen rise in crime,terrorism and riots because of immigrants?
    And are maybe a bit worried about the future for their kids
    You are not able to see that and understand that?


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    #222
    DelaneyIn
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    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    No the far right are on the rise because subhuman trash think foreign people don't deserve to live here.

    You are aware that over 60% of Islamic terrorist attacks in the EU were committed by immigrants and foreigners, including refugees, right?

    Barcelona, London Bridge, Parsons Green, Normandy Church, Thalys Train, Paris Police Station, Brussell Airport, Thornton Heath, Bastille Day, Berlin, Brussells Central Station, Turku, Marseilles, Madrid, Westminster, Notre Dame + numerous others.

    It seems silly to suggest that yesterday was the first example/"proof" of an immigrant commiting a terror attack, especially in the UK.


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    #223
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    stinkypinky wrote: »
    You're in the minority.

    5IMZkRt.jpg

    Well I guess they're trash as well.


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    #224
    dennispenn
    Registered Users Posts: 375 ✭✭dennispenn


    joe40 wrote: »
    I said in terms of terrorist attacks.

    Read somewhere a good while back that
    The UK has hundreds of terrorist plots foiled each year.

    The UK is not a safer place thanks to forced plantation of people's who do not share core values, language, religious beliefs, history and pretty much everything else one can think of.

    This is thanks to firstly Tony Blair but then Theresa may as home secretary really ratcheted up the numbers that to leave services creaking at the seems... The UK is ****ed. This is the new normal and has been for a few years now,importing people's who resent the natives.

    But none of these politicians will have to suffer at the hands of the masses they force the electorate to live among, they neither have to squeeze in beside someone who hates them on the bus and train, they certainly don't have to deal with the criminal aspects that has come with the immigrants as they are tucked away in their white enclaves safe and sound.


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    #225
    Das Reich
    Registered Users Posts: 736 ✭✭✭Das Reich


    Yamanoto wrote: »
    It's a feature of these types of incidents, that the offenders across Europe often tend to be feckless losers with a history of petty crime.

    No. They tend to be muslims.


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    #226
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    And who are these subhuman trash as you are refering to?
    The common man in the street thats have a different opinion than you?
    That have seen rise in crime,terrorism and riots because of immigrants?
    And are maybe a bit worried about the future for their kids
    You are not able to see that and understand that?

    Let's send everyone they don't like to the gas chamber because their kids future. As if the dead beats have one.


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    #227
    mick087
    Registered Users Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭mick087


    It sounding more and more like this guy had some serious mental health problems.
    He had a key worker who would vist him.

    The Uk are claming this was a terrorist attack and need more time to find evidence.

    Lack of decent rescources like counselors for the underprivileged may be at the root.


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    #228
    Das Reich
    Registered Users Posts: 736 ✭✭✭Das Reich


    dennispenn wrote: »
    The UK is ****ed. This is the new normal and has been for a few years now,importing people's who resent the natives.

    But none of these politicians will have to suffer at the hands of the masses they force the electorate to live among

    Totally right. Look this video of Theresa May some years ago (warning is very repulsive): https://youtu.be/GvgeHR4NzYI

    And she had no children, the same as Merkel, Macron and others. If they not care about their own family they would care about the others?


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    #229
    DelaneyIn
    Registered Users Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DelaneyIn


    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    No the far right are on the rise because subhuman trash think foreign people don't deserve to live here.

    Does everyone and anyone deserve to live here?


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    #230
    joe40
    Registered Users Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    dennispenn wrote: »
    Read somewhere a good while back that
    The UK has hundreds of terrorist plots foiled each year.

    The UK is not a safer place thanks to forced plantation of people's who do not share core values, language, religious beliefs, history and pretty much everything else one can think of.

    This is thanks to firstly Tony Blair but then Theresa may as home secretary really ratcheted up the numbers that to leave services creaking at the seems... The UK is ****ed. This is the new normal and has been for a few years now,importing people's who resent the natives.

    But none of these politicians will have to suffer at the hands of the masses they force the electorate to live among, they neither have to squeeze in beside someone who hates them on the bus and train, they certainly don't have to deal with the criminal aspects that has come with the immigrants as they are tucked away in their white enclaves safe and sound.


    https://news.sky.com/story/terror-in-the-uk-timeline-of-attacks-11833061

    This is a timeline of recent attacks. Each one is a tragedy and imy not diminishing the pain caused.

    The ones in recent years have been carried out by individuals acting alone with no resources or planning.

    So a total of 5 or 6 people have been responsible for all the attacks.

    That means when you sit on a bus beside a Muslim there is no evidence he hates you. Millions of Muslims in the UK the attacks are caused by a handful of individuals.
    Deranged and evil no doubt but their numbers are tiny.


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    #231
    glenfieldman
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    We are organising a protest at all of the Mosques in Dublin to show our support for the 3 whiteys that were butchered in Reading. We will smash and rob all we see, and kick the **** out of the Garda.

    Oh sorry my mistake, it wasnt a black that was killed, just 3 whites

    All the ****ers that protested about a convicted criminal George Floyd should hang thier heads in shame


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    #232
    joe40
    Registered Users Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    glenfieldman wrote: »
    We are organising a protest at all of the Mosques in Dublin to show our support for the 3 whiteys that were butchered in Reading. We will smash and rob all we see, and kick the **** out of the Garda.

    Oh sorry my mistake, it wasnt a black that was killed, just 3 whites

    All the ****ers that protested about a convicted criminal George Floyd should hang thier heads in shame

    Why?


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    #233
    Clarence Boddiker
    Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    No the far right are on the rise because subhuman trash think foreign people don't deserve to live here.

    Do you ever see the Irony in the fact that you complain about the 'far right' and then go on to refer to people as Subhuman trash?


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    #234
    [Deleted User]
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    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    Let's send everyone they don't like to the gas chamber because their kids future. As if the dead beats have one.

    I thought we had learned from history,you have obviously not.


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    #235
    NotMOL
    Registered Users Posts: 113 ✭✭NotMOL


    glenfieldman wrote: »
    We are organising a protest at all of the Mosques in Dublin to show our support for the 3 whiteys that were butchered in Reading. We will smash and rob all we see, and kick the **** out of the Garda.

    Oh sorry my mistake, it wasnt a black that was killed, just 3 whites

    All the ****ers that protested about a convicted criminal George Floyd should hang thier heads in shame

    I know you're joking but you do have a point. We have people protesting in the UK because of a death in America but yet you won't hear a peep from them regarding the continuous deaths of people to the hand of Muslim extremist in their own country.


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    #236
    NIMAN
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    Suspect was known to police.

    Why is this always the way after these attacks?

    No comfort to the families, knowing it might have been prevented.


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    #237
    Mr. Karate
    Registered Users Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭Mr. Karate


    Deleted User wrote: »
    And who are these subhuman trash as you are refering to?
    The common man in the street thats have a different opinion than you?
    That have seen rise in crime,terrorism and riots because of immigrants?
    And are maybe a bit worried about the future for their kids
    You are not able to see that and understand that?

    You can always tell who lives in a well off neighborhood when they have these reactions. It easy to cop the "You're a racist if you don't support diversity and multiculturalism." when you know your community is shielded from it and you'll never suffer the consequences.


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    #238
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users Posts: 11,672 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Suspect was known to police.

    Why is this always the way after these attacks?

    No comfort to the families, knowing it might have been prevented.
    This seems to be a constant occurrence in the UK. Suspects always tend to be known. Really really poor from the authorities to consistently let this happen.


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    #239
    Mr. Karate
    Registered Users Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭Mr. Karate


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Suspect was known to police.

    Why is this always the way after these attacks?

    No comfort to the families, knowing it might have been prevented.

    Its like they think we'll feel better if they say that. If they need to be watched by Police then they shouldn't be in our Countries.


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    #240
    NIMAN
    Registered Users Posts: 33,659 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Mr. Karate wrote: »
    Its like they think we'll feel better if they say that. If they need to be watched by Police then they shouldn't be in our Countries.

    Some of the killers have been born and bred here though.


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    #241
    ArchXStanton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭ArchXStanton


    Mr. Karate wrote: »
    Its like they think we'll feel better if they say that. If they need to be watched by Police then they shouldn't be in our Countries.

    Go away out of that with your common sense..


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