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“Senior politician, household name” sexually assaults girl [** NO NAMES **]

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    #2
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Proof of what? It's a tweet where she didn't name anyone not a court case.


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    Tommybojangles
    Registered Users Posts: 396 ✭✭Tommybojangles


    In before someone tries to find a way to blame Leo


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    #4
    Rodney Bathgate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    Misleading thread title, girl implies teenager or child. The tweet clearly says early 20’s.


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    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,161 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    coinop wrote: »
    Do you believe women or will you demand proof?

    https://mobile.twitter.com/taisling/status/1274649516491366401
    I don't believe anyone without proof and a tweet doesn't cut it. That's why we invented laws and courts of law. Anything else is mob rule.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    #6
    Still waters
    Registered Users Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Still waters


    I don't believe her and a don't not believe her


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    coinop
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 315 ✭✭coinop


    Tommybojangles wrote: »
    In before someone tries to find a way to blame Leo

    I have news for you about Leo...


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    Still waters
    Registered Users Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Still waters


    Did she do anything at the time to prevent him molesting others in the future


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    #9
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,585 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    coinop wrote: »
    Do you believe women or will you demand proof?

    https://mobile.twitter.com/taisling/status/1274649516491366401

    If I set up a twitter account tomorrow and blamed you of the same behaviour how would you want people to react?


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    #10
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    I don't think these things should be handled via twitter. It reminds me of a witch hunt. However she didn't name him so that's fair enough. No proof required.

    I don't automatically believe women, I don't automatically believe men. Depends on the situation. Which in this case we know nothing about.


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    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    She should go to the Guards and make a statement otherwise speaking out on twitter is a fruitless exercise.

    It leaves a seed of doubt over some of the prominent high profile male TDs now which is quite unfair.


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    coinop
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 315 ✭✭coinop


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    If I set up a twitter account tomorrow and blamed you of the same behaviour how would you want people to react?

    I would demand proof of such a despicable act. But you’d be a brave man to ask the accuser and her disciples for proof. MeToo movement is Iike a cult. You need to accept their word as gospel and that’s that.


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    Truthvader
    Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Truthvader


    FFS another feeble effort to get attention. Sounds like someone made a fairly primitive attempt at a "pass" about 40 years ago. Girl did the same thing to me around the same time. Still remember the thrill. Glad I dont have to negotiate all the metoowokeploiticalcorrectnees web of protocol gping now.


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    Blondini
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭Blondini


    That oul Mary Harney was a divil with a drink or two in him, so he was.


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    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,124 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    coinop wrote: »
    Do you believe women or will you demand proof?

    https://mobile.twitter.com/taisling/status/1274649516491366401


    Nobody named, so no need for "proof" or indeed any discussion at all.


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    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,585 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    coinop wrote: »
    I would demand proof of such a despicable act. But you’d be a brave man to ask the accuser and her disciples for proof. MeToo movement is Iike a cult. You need to accept their word as gospel and that’s that.

    Nah thats not how I do things, until the guards are involved or arrests are made then its just a made up story.


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    JPCN1
    Registered Users Posts: 896 ✭✭✭JPCN1


    coinop wrote: »
    Do you believe women or will you demand proof?

    https://mobile.twitter.com/taisling/status/1274649516491366401

    I guess they all believed Sil Fox's accuser too. Whoever she was.


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    coinop
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 315 ✭✭coinop


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Nah thats not how I do things, until the guards are involved or arrests are made then its just a made up story.

    Tell the girl that and be prepared to get called every name under the sun. Possibly they will contact your employer in an attempt to get you fired, drag your name in the mud. The only acceptable response to the cult is “I believe you” complete with heart emoji.


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    JohnnyFlash
    Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Trial by social media is a shocking thing to witness.


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    Dyr
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    If a crime is committed you report it to the Gardaí, not Twitter.


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    El_Duderino 09
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    Id need evidence. Same as anything else, a claim isn't enough to believe anything. It's not evidence, it a claim.

    Does anyone believe a claim like that without evidence?


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    Bobblehats
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    Itty bitty twitty bird


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    [Deleted User]
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    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    If I set up a twitter account tomorrow and blamed you of the same behaviour how would you want people to react?

    I think the op is in agreement with you and not the people immediately shouting "guilty"


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    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    coinop wrote: »
    Do you believe women or will you demand proof?

    https://mobile.twitter.com/taisling/status/1274649516491366401
    Wibbs wrote: »
    I don't believe anyone without proof and a tweet doesn't cut it. That's why we invented laws and courts of law. Anything else is mob rule.

    She hasn’t named anybody. “Household name” is a wide net.

    Seems she’s just relating something that happened to her. I was sexually assaulted at 19. I’ve told a few people. I have no intention of ever taking legal action because it would be futile and, being honest, it didn’t really affect my life. But I’ve said it to a few people. Never named the guy. Just wanted to tell my story.


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    [Deleted User]
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    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
    Id need evidence. Same as anything else, a claim isn't enough to believe anything. It's not evidence, it a claim.

    Does anyone believe a claim like that without evidence?

    Millions


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    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users Posts: 20,380 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Bambi wrote: »
    If a crime is committed you report it to the Gardaí, not Twitter.

    Yeah but, she can "report" it anywhere she likes. She'd only report it to the Gardaí if she wants it investigated and if she wants to go down the legal route.

    I can't see how there could be anything to investigate if there are no witnesses to an incident claimed to have happened years ago.


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    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users Posts: 20,380 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Niner leprauchan wrote: »
    Millions

    Well, I'm not amongst them.


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    KiKi III
    Registered Users Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭KiKi III


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Nah thats not how I do things, until the guards are involved or arrests are made then its just a made up story.

    That’s so f**ked up.

    If you said, until the guards are involved I would reserve my opinion, that would be fair.

    Assuming anyone who hasn’t gone to the guards is a liar is horrendous.


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    tipptom
    Registered Users Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭tipptom


    Its the other attention seekers jumping in as quick as they can that makes me laugh.
    They have not a clue who this person is or what sort of a looper it could be but just have to jump on the bandwagon with #ibelieveyou.


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    #30
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users Posts: 6,505 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    It's time to make a false accusation of rape/sexual assault a crime...

    This will never end as long as twitter allows baseless claims on it's platform.

    I've no doubt there are women out there who have been sexually assaulted, I've no doubt there are women out there capable of making it up.

    We've already seen one Senior Minister accused publically of a sexual crime (Pat Carey)...how many more be subjected to the same.

    We have just seen Syl Fox being forced to get a court to throw out a blatant false accusation against him.


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    #31
    KiKi III
    Registered Users Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭KiKi III


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    She hasn’t named anybody. “Household name” is a wide net.

    Seems she’s just relating something that happened to her. I was sexually assaulted at 19. I’ve told a few people. I have no intention of ever taking legal action because it would be futile and, being honest, it didn’t really affect my life. But I’ve said it to a few people. Never named the guy. Just wanted to tell my story.

    Same. I see absolutely no point in reporting the times I’ve been assaulted to the Gardaí. That does not mean they didn’t happen.

    And I’m grateful that the few friends and boyfriends I’ve told have believed me, because why would I make it up?


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