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“Senior politician, household name” sexually assaults girl [** NO NAMES **]

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    #92
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    mikemac2 wrote: »
    If an adult in her twenties not a girl had a case and complaint, she would have gone to the gardai. Not twitter years later for likes and validation

    Hell twitter didn't exist 15 years ago, would she be writing anonymous letters to the Evening Herald back then?

    Tbh what is being accused is virtually impossible to prove?

    Id find it hard for gaurds to make anything of it either,but every pub in country is full of so called healing hands ould lads (fcuk sake,know lads my age,who would been at same sh1te in nightclubs).......

    So the premise is beliveable, but if their is substance to.the accusation,several other victims likely exist with similar stories and name will soon be out (and denability becomes unpossible).....


    noones career should be finished on one unprovable accusation either though imo


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    #93
    Mattdhg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 70 ✭✭Mattdhg


    KiKi III wrote: »
    Now I’m going to log off, watch some very lighthearted television with a cup of tea and try not to get totally overwhelmed by how powerless it feels that the men on this thread so fervently want to believe these women are liars.

    Not necessarily all women, but rightly questioning this particular woman's motives.

    What good does anyone get from a vague tweet? She has said she will never name him, so there goes ever bringing a case against him. In the least if it was public knowledge other women would know to avoid him and be careful. She even says in a later tweet that she knows a few women working with this man now, so obviously her words aren't a deterrent to them.

    Unless she's selfish enough to make a vague tweet about it for fleeting Internet validation, and made no efforts to warn those women who could be at risk.

    There is a huge difference between not reporting it and telling friends / family what happened versus not reporting it but posting a vague tweet to see how much validation you can get


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    #94
    [Deleted User]
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    "someone tweets something"

    my god is this news now


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    #95
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    What benefit could it be to anyone to do this?
    It gets no justice for her.
    It throws a cloud of suspicion over innocent parties.
    It engenders a lot of attention, good and bad, which would be overwhelming.
    It becomes a defining moment in ones life to no good avail.
    Publishing something like that is the equivalent of putting up thousands of flyers on the street making an anonymous accusation. Why do it?

    It would be better if one wanted closure to either write to the person involved, get counselling if still troubled or go to the police. Though personally I think a leg grope rather trivial for most of those measures. Still a letter to the person involved would be more productive. To just randomly post insinuating allegations years later seems like the least effective and most immature thing to do.


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    #96
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    mikemac2 wrote: »
    If an adult in her twenties not a girl had a case and complaint, she would have gone to the gardai. Not twitter years later for likes and validation

    Hell twitter didn't exist 15 years ago, would she be writing anonymous letters to the Evening Herald back then?

    What? No. I was sexually assaulted at 19. No way would I have reported it because I knew I couldn’t prove it. I just had to set my shoulders and move forward. I didn’t tell anyone about it until 16 years later. It is astonishingly naive to think that if a woman is sexually assaulted, she’ll take herself of the garda station post haste. A lot of the time, that won’t happen because it is so hard to prove.


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    #97
    noodler
    Registered Users Posts: 26,409 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    KiKi III wrote: »
    You just criticised her for not speaking up to protect future victims.

    You have not criticised him AT ALL.

    This is scary levels of hypothetical outrage tbh.


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    #98
    JohnnyFlash
    Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    RandomViewer wrote: »
    Johnny only defends one party so 1+1

    If I’m the Johnny you’re referring to then I’ll tell you now I’ve not a clue who is being accused, and I’ve no interest in finding out.

    A hit and a miss there, dude.


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    #99
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    mikemac2 wrote: »
    That doesn't get you twitter followers and likes

    I dont care about that line of reasoning. But I just dont know WHAT it could get her that could be helpful yo her. It solves nothing but sets off a whole chain of problems instead. Lots of attention is not actually a good thing in most cases. Then again Im a bit old fashioned. The thoughts of 1000s of Instagram followers etc would bring me out in a cold sweat and induce nightmares whereas modern folk seem to love the idea. Baffling.


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    #100
    tjhook
    Registered Users Posts: 741 ✭✭✭tjhook


    I've been assaulted by a woman who has posted on this thread.




    Actually I haven't. But if I had been, I think the statement above would be very unfair to a group of women. I think it's unfair to accuse an unnamed member of a relatively small group of a crime.


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    #101
    JJayoo
    Registered Users Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    Naaa if you got power and money then the law doesn't apply I mean does anyone remember the 'famous Irish sports star' who was all over the papers until suddenly it wasnt


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    #102
    Beechwoodspark
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    JJayoo wrote: »
    Naaa if you got power and money then the law doesn't apply I mean does anyone remember the 'famous Irish sports star' who was all over the papers until suddenly it wasnt

    Afaik that case is ongoing...


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    #103
    Nozebleed
    Registered Users Posts: 1,727 ✭✭✭Nozebleed


    someone put up an anagram of the name or maybe we can play hangman..


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    #104
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,080 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    coinop wrote: »
    Do you believe women or will you demand proof?

    https://mobile.twitter.com/taisling/status/1274649516491366401

    I believe her

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #105
    One eyed Jack
    Registered Users Posts: 23,932 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Nozebleed wrote: »
    someone put up an anagram of the name or maybe we can play hangman..


    Fingers Magee.


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    #106
    Nozebleed
    Registered Users Posts: 1,727 ✭✭✭Nozebleed


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    I believe her

    attention seeker. wouldn't believe a word of it. this entire generation seems to have a fantasy of being touched up. if she posts a picture of herself and she's a ride it might change my mind! i doubt it tho..just another attention seeking pig.


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    #107
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users Posts: 16,582 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    I believe her

    Would you not want more proof than a random tweet to decide if you believe someone or not?


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    #108
    RandomViewer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Nozebleed wrote: »
    someone put up an anagram of the name or maybe we can play hangman..

    Cryptic clue?


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    #109
    osarusan
    Registered Users Posts: 16,642 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Nozebleed wrote: »
    attention seeker. wouldn't believe a word of it. this entire generation seems to have a fantasy of being touched up. if she posts a picture of herself and she's a ride it might change my mind! i doubt it tho..just another attention seeking pig.


    Yes, we should evaluate claims of sexual assault based on the attractiveness of the person claiming.


    What a moronic post.


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    #110
    Nozebleed
    Registered Users Posts: 1,727 ✭✭✭Nozebleed


    is the letter D in the name?


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    #111
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Nozebleed wrote: »
    attention seeker. wouldn't believe a word of it. this entire generation seems to have a fantasy of being touched up. if she posts a picture of herself and she's a ride it might change my mind! i doubt it tho..just another attention seeking pig.

    while I find your post crass, I think its no surprise the account doesn't have an actual picture, its like those Facebook profiles with sunset pictures who post racist comments , all false.


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    #112
    Annasopra
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    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    Would you not want more proof than a random tweet to decide if you believe someone or not?

    Yes. Thats why I believe her.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #113
    Nozebleed
    Registered Users Posts: 1,727 ✭✭✭Nozebleed


    osarusan wrote: »
    Yes, we should evaluate claims of sexual assault based on the attractiveness of the person claiming.


    What a moronic post.

    no whats moronic is tweeting about alleged sexual abuse..c'mon man where's your sense of humour?


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    #114
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users Posts: 8,557 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Afaik that case is ongoing...

    Famous Irish sports star 'won't face charges' for alleged rape in Dublin hotel say DPP


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    #115
    LawBoy2018
    Registered Users Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭LawBoy2018


    Nozebleed wrote: »
    attention seeker. wouldn't believe a word of it. this entire generation seems to have a fantasy of being touched up. if she posts a picture of herself and she's a ride it might change my mind! i doubt it tho..just another attention seeking pig.

    This post genuinely turned my stomach. You are disgusting and I sincerely hope you don't have a daughter.


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    #116
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users Posts: 8,557 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Nozebleed wrote: »
    is the letter D in the name?

    i don't think it got that far...


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    #117
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users Posts: 16,582 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Yes. Thats why I believe her.

    So you would want more proof?

    But there isn't any unless you know something the rest of us don't.


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    #118
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    LawBoy2018 wrote: »
    This post genuinely turned my stomach. You are disgusting and I sincerely hope you don't have a daughter.

    Yep, fairly disgusting alright. With this and the stabbing thread Boards is a real eye opener this evening.


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    #119
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    I believe her

    Can I ask why you believe her?

    Do you know her?


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    #120
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,080 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    So you would want more proof?

    But there isn't any unless you know something the rest of us don't.

    I know her. I believe the story.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #121
    olestoepoke
    Registered Users Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭olestoepoke


    Shocking if true, what's even more shocking is the amount of replies saying 100% believe you and #believe you etc. Scary to think we live in a society where people blindly believe anything that's tweeted.


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