Sil Fox cleared (Very clear video evidence of lies of accuser)

Eric Cartman

This really exposes one of the multiple injustices against men in the legal system, we should not be naming either side until proceedings conclude and in clear cut cases of false allegations like this, the accuser should receive a custodial sentence

Curse These Metal Hands

After acknowledging that his hands remained on the table and the photo took closer to three seconds than thirty seconds, she maintained that the sexual assault still happened.

This woman is dangerous and needs to be locked up.

Irishphotodesk

cokeiscrap wrote: »

Sil Fox should thank his lucky stars that he doesn't work for the company that is the largest selling brand in Ireland.

Recently they dismissed a male employee after a female colleague made an unproven accusation against him.

No police involvement. No court/legal proceedings. Just a bogus internal investigation where the male employees rights were trampled on.

Everyone should look for alternative products rather than buying from this despicable company.

How can we look for an alternative when you haven't named the company and how do we know that your story is in any way true... You signed up and posted this one post .... People are judged on their post history and their ability to contribute to the community.

Ps.we don't have police in this country

Rodney Bathgate

Irishphotodesk wrote: »

Ps.we don't have police in this country

‘Ireland’s National Police and Security Service’ according to garda.ie.

flazio

Irishphotodesk wrote: »

How can we look for an alternative when you haven't named the company and how do we know that your story is in any way true... You signed up and posted this one post .... People are judged on their post history and their ability to contribute to the community.

Ps.we don't have police in this country

Yes we do. The Airport Police.

...Ghost...

Irishphotodesk wrote: »

How can we look for an alternative when you haven't named the company and how do we know that your story is in any way true... You signed up and posted this one post .... People are judged on their post history and their ability to contribute to the community.

Ps.we don't have police in this country

The username might be the clue about the company

AndrewJRenko

...Ghost... wrote: »

The username might be the clue about the company

Might also be the clue as to who got fired.

TomTomTim

I remember being asked to write about making rape trials easier for victims in college. I wonder will academics now be asking their students to write about how to protect the accused? I somehow doubt it.

jimwallace197

TomTomTim wrote: »

I remember being asked to write about making rape trials easier for victims in college. I wonder will academics now be asking their students to write about how to protect the accused? I somehow doubt it.

No surprise, its not popular to write about false rape accusations and the sick motivations of the culture/mindset of people who enable false accusers.

Radical feminism at work again infiltrating our education system where victim hood is all the rage and how the white man is going to keeping everyone down.

Rodney Bathgate

...Ghost... wrote: »

The username might be the clue about the company

Pepsi

Patrick2010

Happened in England too, how did this case ever get to court?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/man-falsely-accused-sexually-assaulting-actress-feels-he-has-undergone-mental-torture-sanctioned-state-a6867366.html

A commuter wrongly accused of sexually assaulting a "well-known" actress after brushing past her at a train station has spoken of how “half a second turned into a year of hell”.

Mark Pearson said he felt like he had “undergone a form of mental torture sanctioned by the state” after he was charged over the alleged incident at Waterloo station in December 2014.

CCTV footage showed the 51-year-old walking through the station holding a newspaper in his left hand and with his right hand on his bag strap when he brushes past the woman, who cannot be named for legal reasons.
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The alleged victim later told police he had “penetrated” her and hit her on the shoulder - although footage showing he had never broken his stride.

Mike Murdock

Patrick2010 wrote: »

Happened in England too, how did this case ever get to court?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/man-falsely-accused-sexually-assaulting-actress-feels-he-has-undergone-mental-torture-sanctioned-state-a6867366.html

A commuter wrongly accused of sexually assaulting a "well-known" actress after brushing past her at a train station has spoken of how “half a second turned into a year of hell”.

Mark Pearson said he felt like he had “undergone a form of mental torture sanctioned by the state” after he was charged over the alleged incident at Waterloo station in December 2014.

CCTV footage showed the 51-year-old walking through the station holding a newspaper in his left hand and with his right hand on his bag strap when he brushes past the woman, who cannot be named for legal reasons.
Watch more

The alleged victim later told police he had “penetrated” her and hit her on the shoulder - although footage showing he had never broken his stride.

Plod slowed down the footage too to make it seem he had more time to assault her.

He would have won a suit against them, but the British Justice system would have probably only awarded him a low five figure sum and he stated that the stress of what he had been through already, put him off it.

Nothing happened to her either. She wasn't even named.

joe40

Eric Cartman wrote: »

This really exposes one of the multiple injustices against men in the legal system, we should not be naming either side until proceedings conclude and in clear cut cases of false allegations like this, the accuser should receive a custodial sentence

In this case the accuser was the state. The DPP directed that the court case should take place. They should have properly investigated beforehand.
I agree false allegations are extremely harmful and should be punished but that would require a new court case. That just how our system works.
In this court case the person making the allegations is a witness.
I would have no problem with the DPP launching a fresh case now but that would make them look very bad.

Mike Murdock

Mike Murdock wrote: »

Plod slowed down the footage too to make it seem he had more time to assault her.

He would have won a suit against them, but the British Justice system would have probably only awarded him a low five figure sum and he stated that the stress of what he had been through already, put him off it.

Nothing happened to her either. She wasn't even named.

'plod' did not slow down the footage.
I suggest you read a bit slower, you won't miss something

Rodin

He's damn right to sue the state.
He should also sue her and the state should prosecute her for perjury.

jimwallace197

joe40 wrote: »

In this case the accuser was the state. The DPP directed that the court case should take place. They should have properly investigated beforehand.
I agree false allegations are extremely harmful and should be punished but that would require a new court case. That just how our system works.
In this court case the person making the allegations is a witness.
I would have no problem with the DPP launching a fresh case now but that would make them look very bad.

How about the gards investigating the case actually do their job?? And all of this would have been avoided.

Also, its not about optics, its about justice isn't it, surely that's what our justice proclaims to be.

Rodney Bathgate

So much for “#ibelieveher’.

cokeiscrap

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Might also be the clue as to who got fired.

You could be wrong here ;-)

cokeiscrap

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Pepsi

No, the other one. ;-)

Rodney Bathgate

cokeiscrap wrote: »

No, the other one. ;-)

Must be Dr. Pepper.

Marcos

bubblypop wrote: »

'plod' did not slow down the footage.

Well the CPS definitely did, and they often work hand in glove with the cops.


This article shows more detail about this. It's a good thing his lawyers were able to stop the altered footage being shown to a jury.

This was one of a number of cases against innocent men which were thrown out because of implausible or non existent evidence due to pressure from Alison Saunders who was DPP at the time.

jimwallace197

Marcos wrote: »

This article shows more detail about this. It's a good thing his lawyers were able to stop the altered footage being shown to a jury.

This was one of a number of cases against innocent men which were thrown out because of implausible or non existent evidence due to pressure from Alison Saunders who was DPP at the time.

And we have another one like her here right now, Claire Loftus, masters in public sector management and a diploma in European law. Way out of her depth and promoting a pro feminist agenda.

Fake Scores

cokeiscrap wrote: »

No, the other one. ;-)

Heroin?

...Ghost...

bubblypop wrote: »

'plod' did not slow down the footage.
I suggest you read a bit slower, you won't miss something

The footage was deliberately slowed down with the intention to get an innocent man thrown into jail because some nut job, lying sack of sh1t made a false allegation. Does it matter if it was the "plod" or the CPS?

Glad to see you condemned the false allegation though. Oh wait...:rolleyes:

...Ghost...

...Ghost... wrote: »

The footage was deliberately slowed down with the intention to get an innocent man thrown into jail because some nut job, lying sack of sh1t made a false allegation. Does it matter if it was the "plod" or the CPS?

Glad to see you condemned the false allegation though. Oh wait...:rolleyes:

Maybe you should read the whole thread before commenting on what I did or didn't say.

Does it matter if it was police or cps? Obviously. Does it matter whether it was you or your next dorr neighbour that broke the law, for example.

AndrewJRenko

jimwallace197 wrote: »

And we have another one like her here right now, Claire Loftus, masters in public sector management and a diploma in European law. Way out of her depth and promoting a pro feminist agenda.

Could you give some examples of how this agenda is manifesting, other than this particular case please?

And what exactly is your problem with her qualifications?

...Ghost...

bubblypop wrote: »

Maybe you should read the whole thread before commenting on what I did or didn't say.

Does it matter if it was police or cps? Obviously. Does it matter whether it was you or your next dorr neighbour that broke the law, for example.

It isn't necessary to read the whole thread to respond to a single comment. How on earth do you draw comparisons with plod and CPS to me and my neighbour? Seriously, that's ridiculous and you are being deliberately obtuse. From a legal point of view in the event the wrongly accused wanted to seek justice "LOL" it matters who slowed down the cctv footage. However in the context of my post and the original poster you responded to, it's not relevant whether it was the police or the CPS who slowed the footage down by half. Both parties wanted to have an innocent man convicted. All would have been glad to see a conviction and the facts were just an inconvenience to ignore and/or manipulate. One party was at best, grossly negligent and the other, in my view...criminal. The CPS tampered with evidence in the most insidious way.

You said before you care about law and justice, but all I see from you is a deep bias when women or the legal system are questioned. You ignore the truth and facts in every comment you disagree with and go right after the smallest and least relevant detail you can pick on to attack or discredit the poster/poster.

...Ghost...

...Ghost... wrote: »

It isn't necessary to read the whole thread to respond to a single comment. How on earth do you draw comparisons with plod and CPS to me and my neighbour? Seriously, that's ridiculous and you are being deliberately obtuse. From a legal point of view in the event the wrongly accused wanted to seek justice "LOL" it matters who slowed down the cctv footage. However in the context of my post and the original poster you responded to, it's not relevant whether it was the police or the CPS who slowed the footage down by half. Both parties wanted to have an innocent man convicted. All would have been glad to see a conviction and the facts were just an inconvenience to ignore and/or manipulate. One party was at best, grossly negligent and the other, in my view...criminal. The CPS tampered with evidence in the most insidious way.

You said before you care about law and justice, but all I see from you is a deep bias when women or the legal system are questioned. You ignore the truth and facts in every comment you disagree with and go right after the smallest and least relevant detail you can pick on to attack or discredit the poster/poster.

Sorry, I thought you had an issue with people being accused of something they didn't do?
Maybe not really.

Dempo1

Some outlandish assertions flying here, but as an aside, my sides split in fit of laughter when fox went on TV recently for an interview, his career was ruined he said. The only gig he had in tge last 20 years was the awful, funny Friday on Da Liveline, and that's no even remotely funny infact it's disturbing

silver2020

Dempo1 wrote: »

Some outlandish assertions flying here, but as an aside, my sides split in fit of laughter when fox went on TV recently for an interview, his career was ruined he said. The only gig he had in tge last 20 years was the awful, funny Friday on Da Liveline, and that's no even remotely funny infact it's disturbing

He does a huge number of corporate gigs and they are far more lucrative than pub gigs.

And if there's even a whiff of controversy the corporates will just move to another person.