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Thursday/Friday: Lightning Storms, Flash Flooding Event Thread

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    Night is still young but Christ, how hard can it be just to get a half decent storm triggered off in this country, even when all the ingredients are there waiting to be chopped up and put into a plate for us to partake?

    If there is one lesson I have personally learned these last couple of days is that hi-res models are, by and large, basically ****e. There is just as much info in the global lower res output.. better in fact.

    Think I read before that the Arome model was specifically developed for forecasting short term convective weather, I've been keeping an eye on it for the past 36 hours and overall its been fairly bang on the money, compared to the rest at least.

    Forecasting plume's is never easy (though forecasting a non-event you'd be right ~100% of the time), we have one of these threads at least once every summer and in nearly 15 years on this forum I've never seen one deliver much more than some Irish Sea storms or a few that clip the south east coast.

    Have to laugh at this thread as well, in almost every other country on earth a forecast of 'a few scattered thunderstorms' and people wouldn't even bat an eyelid, here we have 35 pages of hype for whats so far amounted to a few sporadic flashes of lightning :pac:

    Sums up how soul destroying it is having an interest in extreme weather in Ireland


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,867 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    What did I miss? :pac:

    Looks disappointing so far but things can flare quickly so don't be too down hearted in the east.As MT was saying our timeline here has been pushed back a few hours.

    Our best chance in the east for lightning is from activity making it's way up through Wexford and Wicklow in the next 90 minutes.

    If we are to get a storm I'd much prefer something between now and 3 am.

    Will be keeping an eye out, hopeful as ever. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭Davaeo09


    There's a few more hours of hopecasting :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,100 ✭✭✭squarecircles


    Think I read before that the Arome model was specifically developed for forecasting short term convective weather, I've been keeping an eye on it for the past 36 hours and overall its been fairly bang on the money, compared to the rest at least.

    Forecasting plume's is never easy (though forecasting a non-event you'd be right ~100% of the time), we have one of these threads at least once every summer and in nearly 15 years on this forum I've never seen one deliver much more than some Irish Sea storms or a few that clip the south east coast.

    Have to laugh at this thread as well, in almost every other country on earth a forecast of 'a few scattered thunderstorms' and people wouldn't even bat an eyelid, here we have 35 pages of hype for whats so far amounted to a few sporadic flashes of lightning :pac:

    Sums up how soul destroying it is having an interest in extreme weather in Ireland

    Not to mention the country is a kip and the narrative of the weather Forum is controlled and influenced by a few inside the pale, thank christ we can all fly away in July and escape this dump.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭q85dw7osi4lebg


    It's all over for now anyway. The couple of radar returns producing sparks have dissipated. Unless you knew the context that storms were expected and you saw the weak sauce light to moderate rain in the east thats on the radar currently, would u expect anything to happen? Nah. met eireann correct to downgrade this mornin in the text even though they had already run with the national warnings. Very remote chance of anything now in my opinion.

    Off to bed with you so


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭greenfield21


    Calling it a damp squib is one hell of understatement, this thread will be talked about for years to come as the biggest flop ever. So it's actually quite a memorable day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Monkeynut


    Not to mention the country is a kip and the narrative of the weather Forum is controlled and influenced by a few inside the pale, thank christ we can all fly away in July and escape this dump.
    I'm sure in paradise they'll have WiFi or roaming. So people can moan there too.

    I was excited, but not really disappointed to an extent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭jamo2oo9


    Heavy rain in NE Louth about 5-10mins ago. A rumble was heard as well but didn't see any flashes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11 Thunderlover


    I recall a period of significant lightning activity in Dublin over a few days in I think mid-late October 2003. It sticks out to me because of something tragic that was happening in my life at that time, but maybe the circumstances have amplified my memories of the weather conditions. Is there any record of thunderstorm activity around that time, or where could I look?

    Nothing but a bit of drizzle to report here in Clondalkin so far anyway. Disappointing!

    Yes, October 2003 saw one of the most prolonged periods of thundery weather in Ireland. I was living in Dublin at the time and it started about 4pm one afternoon and kept going through the next day and into the following morning. I remember sitting on the number 10 bus on the first morning of it and it was a bright flash after flash. Continuous. Some epic thunder also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,967 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    Ireland has always been hard to predict the weather, think people still expect a little to much when it comes to thunder and lightning forecasts. It just a case of wait and see what happens and if it doesn't work out then it doesn't.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Except Met Eireann will get the blame because of his stupidity
    No idea who this guy is. Call me a snob but as much as I have followed the weather all my life, I am very fussy about who I will listen too on the topic. You can tell pretty much instantly who is real and authentic and who isn't.

    New Moon



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭q85dw7osi4lebg


    Flashes in sky out off Laytown just now too, not on radar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Think I read before that the Arome model was specifically developed for forecasting short term convective weather, I've been keeping an eye on it for the past 36 hours and overall its been fairly bang on the money, compared to the rest at least.

    I rarely look at that model but I did last night and it showed showers breaking out over the midlands and reaching as far as here(by this stage of tonight) Same with the Harmonie as well, which was never going to happen given the actual set up, so I not sure I could agree. GFS, for all of its faults, has actually been far more accurate so far.

    New Moon



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    Yes, October 2003 saw one of the most prolonged periods of thundery weather in Ireland. I was living in Dublin at the time and it started about 4pm one afternoon and kept going through the next day and into the following morning. I remember sitting on the number 10 bus on the first morning of it and it was a bright flash after flash. Continuous. Some epic thunder also.

    Yes I remember sitting on the bus on my daily 2.5 hour commute (yes the traffic was that bad and it was pre bus lanes on a lot of the route!) to UCD and it being unbelievable. And it continued throughout the day in college too and the next day. It was very dramatic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭q85dw7osi4lebg


    Fork lightening off coast of Mornington right now, again not on radar


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 775 ✭✭✭Musefan


    3 flashes of lightning in Cavan and a brief shower but no sound of thunder. Nothing coming up on the radar.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 395 ✭✭Class MayDresser


    Calling it a damp squib is one hell of understatement, this thread will be talked about for years to come as the biggest flop ever. So it's actually quite a memorable day.

    Youve never seen the flop of 03, unless your name is Shelly, or so she told me!


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,867 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Fork lightening off coast of Mornington right now, again not on radar

    Where is Mornington Insta?

    I'm keeping alert in north Dublin and nothing to report as of yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Where is Mornington Insta?

    I'm keeping alert in north Dublin and nothing to report as of yet.

    Drogheda, some of Ireland's best live there


  • Registered Users Posts: 332 ✭✭Paso Fino


    Also keeping an eye in north Dublin, though I will admit to feeling a bit gloomy now! Clearly I still haven't lost all hope yet!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,967 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    Where is Mornington Insta?

    I'm keeping alert in north Dublin and nothing to report as of yet.

    Morninton is east of Drogheda at the south side of the mouth of the River Boyne


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,948 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    A damp squid indeed, the lighting never materialised, back to brass tax from tomorrow.
    Gonzo must be sticking pins in his head.

    It pure bdsm weather porn.

    not really after 35 years of no decent thunderstorms in my area I expect nothing and if something happens that's a huge bonus. Thankfully we got a nice warm and sunny day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,775 ✭✭✭Bsal


    Radar returns appear to be intensifying in the Navan area past 10min, also a cell just popped up out of nowhere NW of Drogheda


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,867 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Remember...

    Snooze you lose

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,215 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Keep an eye on the radar between Fishguard and Rosslare for perhaps some interest with developing new cells


  • Registered Users Posts: 11 Thunderlover


    Remember...

    Snooze you lose

    :D

    Are you flogging a dead horse at this stage?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭q85dw7osi4lebg


    Drogheda, some of Ireland's best live there

    Precisely.

    Specifically looking north east towards the Cooley / Mourne mts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    Not a sound in a very muggy Terenure. Bag peel is something awful


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 302 ✭✭Muscles Schultz


    A damp squid indeed, the lighting never materialised, back to brass tax from tomorrow.
    Gonzo must be sticking pins in his head.

    It pure bdsm weather porn.

    Wtf is ‘brass tax’ pray tell????


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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,867 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    pad199207 wrote: »
    Keep an eye on the radar between Fishguard and Rosslare for perhaps some interest with developing new cells

    Things startng to develop a bit now between Wexford and Cardigan Bay. No sparks just yet.

    Can see small potential cells emerging soon


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