Minimum pay rates abolished for trades men

johnnyfruitcake

How is this going to play out?
28 days to object.


https://www.irishtimes.com/business/work/high-court-strikes-down-minimum-pay-law-for-electricians-1.4286778?mode=amp

StackSteevens

More importantly, why are hate-filled vermin like Smith elected to our national parliament?

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/bar-council-chair-condemns-brid-smiths-comments-about-judge-after-minimum-pay-ruling-1007394.html

Irish Praetorian

I recall coming across this previously, the upshot being that many small-contractors outside of Dublin wouldn't be earning the hourly 'minimums' themselves, let alone any lads they had employed. So many simply simply ignored the rates directive alltogether.

johnnyfruitcake

Irish Praetorian wrote: »

I recall coming across this previously, the upshot being that many small-contractors outside of Dublin wouldn't be earning the hourly 'minimums' themselves, let alone any lads they had employed. So many simply simply ignored the rates directive alltogether.

Yea, a lot of them ignore the rate and the pension contributions, but this leaves workers with no leg to stand on.

When small companies start pricing jobs now there is no minimum rate it will start a race to the bottom of undercutting each other.

A lot of newly qualified lads will be on a plane as soon as they can and the number of new apprentices each year will plummet, why work and study for 4 years when you could work in Aldi for the same money.

Hubertj

StackSteevens wrote: »

More importantly, why are hate-filled vermin like Smith elected to our national parliament?

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/bar-council-chair-condemns-brid-smiths-comments-about-judge-after-minimum-pay-ruling-1007394.html

She is a terrible human.

Having said that, why was there an objection - was the minimum rate considered too high for many contractors? I do think there should be minimum rates for skilled tradesmen.

suicide_circus

If tradesmen are being badly paid in this country I must confess I hadn't noticed.

Edgware

johnnyfruitcake wrote: »

Yea, a lot of them ignore the rate and the pension contributions, but this leaves workers with no leg to stand on.

When small companies start pricing jobs now there is no minimum rate it will start a race to the bottom of undercutting each other.

A lot of newly qualified lads will be on a plane as soon as they can and the number of new apprentices each year will plummet, why work and study for 4 years when you could work in Aldi for the same money.

Like the Irish electricians who scabbed the electricians strike in Berlin in the 90s

johnnyfruitcake

Edgware wrote: »

Like the Irish electricians who scabbed the electricians strike in Berlin in the 90s

I don't think Berlin has anything to do with it

brisan

A major issue in the electrical contracting business was contractors from outside the jurisdiction setting up companies,pricing low on two or three jobs ,when the jobs were finished they would dissolve the company ,not pay revenue or pension entitlements and then start another company and do it all over again

johnnyfruitcake

brisan wrote: »

A major issue in the electrical contracting business was contractors from outside the jurisdiction setting up companies,pricing low on two or three jobs ,when the jobs were finished they would dissolve the company ,not pay revenue or pension entitlements and then start another company and do it all over again

It's that crews coming down from the north your referring to?
T

Edgware

johnnyfruitcake wrote: »

It's that crews coming down from the north your referring to?
T

Careful now!