Study reveals men with cats are a dating turnoff

o1s1n

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

I love cats. I like how independent they are. Up until a couple years ago I had one but it got hit by a car

Don't even keep them in, I let them in from time to time but they stay outside for the most part. I don't buy them toys or other pointless ****e like that and I certainly don't have catnip.

My mates wife has a cat and she spoils it like you wouldn't believe, it gets the best of the best, it's bizarre to watch and walks all over the place, I couldn't be having that.

And yes, I love dogs too.

I really don't get folks who keep their cats outside. They're not so much a pet in that instance as more a wandering local neighbourhood feature.

Both of mine are indoor cats and are happy and safe. No chance of them being hit by a car, attacked by other wildlife or eating poison.

silverharp

Homelander wrote: »

Never got this. In what situation would it come down to having to make the dog a priority over your boyfriend/girlfriend in any meaningful way?

"Sorry, I can't go away this weekend as I can't get someone to mind the dog". Is about the worst I can think of and entirely rational? Hardly relationship shattering stuff.

There isn't going to be a scenario where a masked intruder has a gun put to their head and demand they chose between the partner and the dog.

I've dated plenty women with dogs and it's never been an issue. A few times I've missed the dog after the relationship ended.

it depends I guess, but you could have flexibility issues that might get under your skin, spontaneous trips away, nights out, who stays where.

Church on Tuesday

o1s1n wrote: »

I really don't get folks who keep their cats outside. They're not so much a pet in that instance as more a wandering local neighbourhood feature.

Both of mine are indoor cats and are happy and safe. No chance of them being hit by a car, attacked by other wildlife or eating poison.

For hygiene reasons. Cats aren't supposed to be kept inside all the time.

LiquidZeb

Seamai wrote: »

Cats are kuntz, we have several families of wild rabbits living in the ditch along our garden doing no harm to anyone. There have been two domestic cats skulking around for the last couple of months waiting to pounce on the kits as soon as they emerge from their burrows. I wasn't too upset when I spotted one dead on the road last week. Give me a dog anyday.

Yeah because dogs are known for their love of rabbits and would never chase or kill one. Perish the thought.

cgcsb

What's the point of a pet cat? having a pet means the pet depends on you. Humans are a mild inconvenience for cats. Dogs are a loyal friend for their whole lives. Not sure why having a cat makes you less masculine?? but it certainly makes you a wierdo.

U Wat?

U Wat? wrote: »

I had to put my cat down recently. He was my bro and I miss him. I love cats and to hell with what some skank on Tinder thinks.

Sorry for your loss

My cat developed a rapidly growing osteosarcoma high up on the left rear leg shortly after Christmas, and at first was told it was inoperable, and he was given painkillers so as I would have a couple of weeks to say goodbye to him. Then the vet phoned, saying she had sent on his xrays and pathology results to a specialist vet, and that the consultant had said it was just about operable but that she’d have to remove a portion of his pelvis too, Noel Fitzpatrick kind of territory. Seeing he was currently in some pain trying to move and that a decision needed to be made, I recalled what his deceased former owner had said when she was dying of MND. She had left mo eh for his care in the first place, and ironically said “if ever I had a cat that needed an amputation I wouldn’t hesitate as they get along fine afterwards”. With a good prognosis for living out a normal life (osteosarcoma in a cat’s limb doesn’t metastasise as readily as in other creatures) I went ahead with it and he was pretty well fully recovered in a month. He’s faster than he ever was, pivoting rapidly on his one rear leg and playing “leopard” with the back of my leg more formidably than ever before. Another irony is that his former owner, my late cousin, named him BooBoo3. I should have known he’d end up with 3 legs!

o1s1n

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

For hygiene reasons. Cats aren't supposed to be kept inside all the time.

What kind of hygiene reasons?

Do you mean that cats should be allowed to roam freely to crap and piss outside?

That's not very hygienic for everyone else, is it?

o1s1n

cgcsb wrote: »

What's the point of a pet cat? having a pet means the pet depends on you. Humans are a mild inconvenience for cats. Dogs are a loyal friend for their whole lives. Not sure why having a cat makes you less masculine?? but it certainly makes you a wierdo.

You've clearly never owned a cat, they all have different personalities. The 'uncaring aloof' cat trope is done to death at this stage and is entirely dependent on the particular cat.

My two are incredibly needy little ****ers. I currently have one on my lap purring away and the other one is sitting on the back of my chair. If I get up to leave, they'll probably follow me to the next room to do exactly the same thing.

If I call them by their names they'll run over and jump up on my lap or let a meow from another room and come running in. One of them loves to play fetch.

Church on Tuesday

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

For hygiene reasons. Cats aren't supposed to be kept inside all the time.

I live in an apartment on an upstairs floor, so moggy stays indoors. If a cat is reared from kitten hood to be mostly outdoors it will not take to indoor life. It very much depends on its nature and upbringing. My current and a previous cat took readily to indoor life, but one young cat I adopted had to subsequently go to a rural setting as he got madly frustrated when I brought him ho e to the apartment and was jumping up on the handles and opening all the doors. Some of them are very smart creatures.

kowloonkev

I wouldn't date anyone with a pet because I like animals and wouldn't want to be with someone who contributes to an industry that uses and abuses them for profit.

o1s1n

kowloonkev wrote: »

I wouldn't date anyone with a pet because I like animals and wouldn't want to be with someone who contributes to an industry that uses and abuses them for profit.

Jaysus :eek:

You do realise that a lot of people with pets have actually taken them in as rescues and are trying to, you know, actually save animals?

Seamai

LiquidZeb wrote: »

Yeah because dogs are known for their love of rabbits and would never chase or kill one. Perish the thought.

Well there are plenty of dogs around too, my own JRT included and they couldn't care less about the rabbits. The cats look well fed to me but still feel the need to kill for the fun of it.

o1s1n

my parents have a gorgeous Belgian Malinois they recently adopted from a rescue, she's lovely.

However, if there was a rabbit in the garden with her (or even another dog) she'd absolutely rip it apart. They found her attacking a hedgehog recently enough.

She's so crazy around other animals my folks are having incredible difficulty bringing her for walks and have her with a dog trainer at the moment. I didn't believe them until I went for a walk with them up the mountains last weekend and saw it first hand.

You'd never think it though when she's just around humans, the ears go back and she's a docile lump.

Again, it really depends so much animal to animal. One of my cats is a little kamikaze and will jump off anything to try to catch a fly. I'm sure she'd murder a mouse.

The other one couldn't give a ****.

gormdubhgorm

Deleted User wrote: »

Do many single men own cats?..

Seems like more a woman's pet..

Although it is 2020 I suppose..

I thought a man with cat = likely gay?

Or is that just a stereotype pre 2020?

gormdubhgorm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I thought a man with cat = likely gay?

Or is that just a stereotype pre 2020?

I'm a single man with a cat. When my ex and I broke up, I kept one and she kept two.

I've never heard that stereotype before. Sounds pretty stupid.

jam_mac_jam

o1s1n wrote: »

What kind of hygiene reasons?

Do you mean that cats should be allowed to roam freely to crap and piss outside?

That's not very hygienic for everyone else, is it?

Exactly. Cat owners are unbelievable. Why have an animal if you don't care for its welfare.

They are disgusting ****ting all over the place. And yes lots of dog owners don't clean up after their dogs. Very few dogs are allowed to wander around killing things and ****ting everywhere.

If you are concerned about hygiene keep them in your house.

gormdubhgorm

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm a single man with a cat. When my ex and I broke up, I kept one and she kept two.

I've never heard that stereotype before. Sounds pretty stupid.

So it wasn't your cat you got stuck with one of hers?

Study cat or dog people perceptions:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/270691821_Cat_Person_Dog_Person_Gay_or_Heterosexual_The_Effect_of_Labels_on_a_Man's_Perceived_Masculinity_Femininity_and_Likability

gormdubhgorm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

So it wasn't your cat you got stuck with one of hers?

We got them while we were together. I took a liking to the one I have so we got him.

gormdubhgorm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

So it wasn't your cat you got stuck with one of hers?

Study cat or dog people perceptions:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/270691821_Cat_Person_Dog_Person_Gay_or_Heterosexual_The_Effect_of_Labels_on_a_Man's_Perceived_Masculinity_Femininity_and_Likability

And you could probably find a study called

"One strap, Two straps, Gay, or Heterosexual: The Effect of how one carries a school bag on a Man’s Perceived Masculinity, Femininity, and Likability"

gormdubhgorm

Deleted User wrote: »

And you could probably find a study called

"One strap, Two straps, Gay, or Heterosexual: The Effect of how one carries a school bag on a Man’s Perceived Masculinity, Femininity, and Likability"

Well according to another opinion, cats are an 'antidote to toxic masculinity'. So that is me educated!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-11/the-rise-of-cat-men-antidote-to-toxic-masculinity/8082618?nw=0

JohnnyFlash

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Exactly. Cat owners are unbelievable. Why have an animal if you don't care for its welfare.

They are disgusting ****ting all over the place. And yes lots of dog owners don't clean up after their dogs. Very few dogs are allowed to wander around killing things and ****ting everywhere.

If you are concerned about hygiene keep them in your house.

I’ve had the misfortune of stepping in a lot of dog **** over the years. Can’t remember ever stepping in cat sh1t.

I'd probably do better on Tinder with a picture of my cat than a picture of myself.



If someone doesn't like that, they can feck off.

blackbox

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'd probably do better on Tinder with a picture of my cat than a picture of myself.



If someone doesn't like that, they can feck off.

Are you sure that's not a black owl?

Phoenix32

Most cats are lovely and some men are lovely so not a turn off, nope.

kowloon

SharpshooterTom wrote: »

“Women viewed men as less masculine when holding the cat; higher in neuroticism, agreeableness, and openness; and less dateable,” the researchers wrote of their findings.

And then the same people put off by those qualities complain that guys aren't open enough and play games.
The contradictions and bull**** involved with online dating are souring my respect for humanity.

kowloon

kowloon wrote: »

And then the same people put off by those qualities complain that guys aren't open enough and play games.
The contradictions and bull**** involved with online dating are souring my respect for humanity.

The study doesn't mean anything. The percentage differences in terms of datability are pretty low anyways.

Group 1:
Dog Person - 47.6%
Cat Person - 19.1%

Group 2:
Dog Person - 44.9%
Cat Person - 21.5%

"Participants falling into the “dog person” and “neither” categories were less likely to favor the picture with the cat"

The only worthwhile thing I'll take from the study is the fact that women are seemingly far more likely to be dog people. Or the research is biased and they advertised the anonymous online quiz on pet dog websites.

whisky_galore

Let's see how many men are turned off by women with kids, far dirtier and noisier than any cat.

Jesus they used MTurk, which is an Amazon service full of people working doing these types of tasks for pennies. They might make a couple of dollars an hour.

Research nowadays is pretty whack. The same people doing a scientific questionnaire one minute for money could be trawling business pages gathering emails the next.

kowloon

Deleted User wrote: »

Jesus they used MTurk, which is an Amazon service full of people working doing these types of tasks for pennies. They might make a couple of dollars an hour.

Research nowadays is pretty whack. The same people doing a scientific questionnaire one minute for money could be trawling business pages gathering emails the next.

Isn't that just a cheating tool to get people to write good reviews for your business?

RobertKK

I have two cats and they live outside with the dog, the cats are employed as vermin control workers.

Church on Tuesday

o1s1n wrote: »

What kind of hygiene reasons?

Do you mean that cats should be allowed to roam freely to crap and piss outside?

That's not very hygienic for everyone else, is it?

The outside is a cats natural habitat. I mean they are predators, it's literally what they are designed to do, to roam free within reason and hunt.

And no, no I don't want a cat doing it's business inside my place, it's simply not hygienic.

Deebles McBeebles

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I’ve had the misfortune of stepping in a lot of dog **** over the years. Can’t remember ever stepping in cat sh1t.

That's partly because you don't get cats on a lead, being dragged along a path, mid-sh*t because someone doesn't like cleaning up after their animal.

Church on Tuesday

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

The outside is a cats natural habitat. I mean they are predators, it's literally what they are designed to do, to roam free within reason and hunt.

And no, no I don't want a cat doing it's business inside my place, it's simply not hygienic.

How do you think a cat does its business if it's inside a house?

Church on Tuesday

Deleted User wrote: »

How do you think a cat does its business if it's inside a house?

How do you mean?

Right, I just can't get over this study. It's hilarious.



I actually agree with the results now. Of course if you bring a cat to a photoshoot for your Tinder photo, you might be a bit too committed to them. I thought they'd be using natural photos.

Church on Tuesday

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

How do you mean?

I mean have you ever seen a litter tray? Mine uses one and it's perfectly hygienic. Just clean it out every day.

Church on Tuesday

Deleted User wrote: »

I mean have you ever seen a litter tray? Mine uses one and it's perfectly hygienic. Just clean it out every day.

Not for me and the smell is horrendous.

If you have the space, let a cat out to do it's business. I think it's cruel for people in apartments to have cats cooped up 24/7 in any event but that's just my opinion.

chrissb8

Guess it’s the same as me seeing girls with just a dog as one of their pics on Tinder. Big turn off, why would I want to go out with some weirdo who thinks the world is in love with her dog as much as she is.

Wibbs

o1s1n wrote: »

my parents have a gorgeous Belgian Malinois they recently adopted from a rescue, she's lovely.

However, if there was a rabbit in the garden with her (or even another dog) she'd absolutely rip it apart. They found her attacking a hedgehog recently enough.

She's so crazy around other animals my folks are having incredible difficulty bringing her for walks and have her with a dog trainer at the moment. I didn't believe them until I went for a walk with them up the mountains last weekend and saw it first hand.

You'd never think it though when she's just around humans, the ears go back and she's a docile lump.

Belgian Malinois especially if they're from a working line can have very strong prey instincts, so it doesn't really surprise me to hear that O. Neither does it surprise me to hear she's good with people. You can have similar with other shepherd breeds. Huskies can be nightmares for this too. Belgian Malinois tend to be pretty high on the intensity and intelligence stakes too and get bored easily, which might be part of it? IMHO unless you get lucky you need a fair bit of experience to deal with certain dog breeds like that.

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Right, I just can't get over this study. It's hilarious.



I actually agree with the results now. Of course if you bring a cat to a photoshoot for your Tinder photo, you might be a bit too committed to them. I thought they'd be using natural photos.

That's hilarious! They're so unnatural. I'm not sure it's the cat at all but the photos where they're sitting sideways they just look.. weirder. It's clear it's not their own cat either.. they look so awkward holding it. Honestly those second pictures look like deranged men holding cats hostage.

Leg End Reject

[Deleted User] wrote: »

That's hilarious! They're so unnatural. I'm not sure it's the cat at all but the photos where they're sitting sideways they just look.. weirder. It's clear it's not their own cat either.. they look so awkward holding it. Honestly those second pictures look like deranged men holding cats hostage.

The solo photos look like school photos for adult, in the cat photos they look like crazy cat killers smiling before the kill.

Leg End Reject

Leg End Reject wrote: »

The solo photos look like school photos for adult, in the cat photos they look like crazy cat killers smiling before the kill.

Yeah exactly!!

I Am Nobody

whisky_galore wrote: »

Let's see how many men are turned off by women with kids, far dirtier and noisier than any cat.

That is a dice roll in itself.I dated a few with kids where the kids were absolute gems.And a few where the kid was a prick.

o1s1n

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

The outside is a cats natural habitat. I mean they are predators, it's literally what they are designed to do, to roam free within reason and hunt.

And no, no I don't want a cat doing it's business inside my place, it's simply not hygienic.

There's this thing mankind did thousands of years ago, it was called 'domesticating animals'. I suggest you look it up.

Or would you rather all domesticated pets roamed around hunting for prey and crapping everywhere?

Wibbs wrote: »

Belgian Malinois especially if they're from a working line can have very strong prey instincts, so it doesn't really surprise me to hear that O. Neither does it surprise me to hear she's good with people. You can have similar with other shepherd breeds. Huskies can be nightmares for this too. Belgian Malinois tend to be pretty high on the intensity and intelligence stakes too and get bored easily, which might be part of it? IMHO unless you get lucky you need a fair bit of experience to deal with certain dog breeds like that.

Indeed, I hope they haven't bitten off more than they can chew as they absolutely adore the dog now. She's become part of the family very quickly. That intelligence and intensity you mention puts her in the 'almost feels like a human' category.

She does have a nasty scar under her eye and they're a little concerned that maybe she was a breeding dog in a previous life, hence the extreme aggression to other dogs.

They brought her on a 20km hike the other day up the mountains and she was still climbing 30 foot almost vertical embankments by the end of it, absolute incredible amount of energy!

I Am Nobody

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

The outside is a cats natural habitat. I mean they are predators, it's literally what they are designed to do, to roam free within reason and hunt.

And no, no I don't want a cat doing it's business inside my place, it's simply not hygienic.

But at the same time you have no problem your cats doing in it your neighbours garden?

Church on Tuesday

I Am Nobody wrote: »

But at the same time you have no problem your cats doing in it your neighbours garden?

When did I mention a neighbor?

Christ some people on this site sometimes.

Church on Tuesday

o1s1n wrote: »

There's this thing mankind did thousands of years ago, it was called 'domesticating animals'. I suggest you look it up.

Or would you rather all domesticated pets roamed around hunting for prey and crapping everywhere?



Indeed, I hope they haven't bitten off more than they can chew as they absolutely adore the dog now. She's become part of the family very quickly. That intelligence and intensity you mention puts her in the 'almost feels like a human' category.

She does have a nasty scar under her eye and they're a little concerned that maybe she was a breeding dog in a previous life, hence the extreme aggression to other dogs.

They brought her on a 20km hike the other day up the mountains and she was still climbing 30 foot almost vertical embankments by the end of it, absolute incredible amount of energy!

Depends on the pet. A dog no, a cat yes.

jam_mac_jam

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Depends on the pet. A dog no, a cat yes.

And then we wonder why cat owners are not considered attractive.

I Am Nobody

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

When did I mention a neighbor?

Christ some people on this site sometimes.

Not targeting you specifically,but most cat owners allow their cats to roam free,such as yourself.My neighbours are along of the same line of thinking.And everyday their cats ****e,spray and kill the birds I feed in my garden.

I've confronted them many times over it and their excuse is cats are natural outdoor animals.which is BS,same way other animals can adapt to indoor living so can cats.

ancapailldorcha

Cats are awesome. Don't think I could date someone who hates them. Sadly, I'm allergic so I can't have one. The little sh*ts know it as well. I can see it in their eyes.