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Cops dream of slaughtering “N****ers” (but policing isn’t racist*)

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    #62
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    Overheal wrote: »
    Wilmington NC yesterday terminated Corporal Jessie Moore and officers Kevin Piner and Brian Gilmor for their involvement in a police dash cam recording that was activated on accident.

    Discussing 2 black colleagues:



    Denigrating an arrestee based on race:



    And just straight up advocation of genocide:



    But yeah no I’m sure there’s nothing wrong with police culture definitely no racism there

    The conversation as recorded by the camera went on for 46 minutes. The fired officers claim they aren’t racist and it was just ‘stress’ that caused them to say such racist things.

    They are private citizens now who still have a right to carry firearms.

    https://www.mediaite.com/news/cops-fired-for-discussing-slaughtering-them-f-n-say-they-arent-racists/

    is this your full time job or just an obsessive hobby ?


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    #63
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,124 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    What's the story with mainly white women and lgbtyq groups or people at all these marches and that?




    What do you think it is?


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    #64
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,483 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    The only poster I can see trying to paint a racist narrative in this thread has been the opening poster. No connecting dots necessary, they came straight out with it in an attempt to suggest that police in the US are racist, on the back of this one example. It’s an extrapolation that isn’t worth being taken seriously.
    How dare I suggest there are racist police in the US off the back of a smoking gun example to that effect.


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    #65
    BarnardsLoop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 193 ✭✭BarnardsLoop


    Mission accomplished, it seems. The thread's mostly been dragged off-topic and yet still they continue.


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    #66
    GarIT
    Registered Users Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    What's the story with mainly white women and lgbtyq groups or people at all these marches and that?

    I'd guess the white men are alienated from being told they are racist by default all the time and we're a white country so most of the people there would be white. And LGBT+ groups seem to support others they feel have their own struggles.


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    #67
    banie01
    Registered Users Posts: 16,803 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Calling people racist and no proof and no reason to say so as nothing racist has been posted.

    Bizarre

    I'm lost, he said.
    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    The racists of boards.ie do keep revealing themselves.

    Noone was called racist, nothing other than an inference as to who is, or is not a racist can be drawn from what he said.

    That inference would be based solely on the bias of the person drawing it.

    So I'm at a loss as to who was called racist?
    Or am I missing the obvious in that you are inferring he meant you?


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    #68
    Overheal
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    mynamejeff wrote: »
    is this your full time job or just an obsessive hobby ?

    I’m not sure why you have some sort of personal issue with me but bless your heart.

    Amazing the things you’d rather talk about, like digs at me, as opposed to actually engaging the subject matter.


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    #69
    GarIT
    Registered Users Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Overheal wrote: »
    Of course, but as long as good police stay silent for bad they are all in the same mud.

    I disagree. It can be difficult as an individual to fight against something. It's not the responsibility of any individual to risk their career and income. Sure it's honourable if they do but people can't be blamed for protecting themselves.


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    #70
    One eyed Jack
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    Overheal wrote: »
    Of course, but as long as good police stay silent for bad they are all in the same mud.


    They’re not? You chose to put them there by suggesting anyone who isn’t a racist is guilty by association, because “police culture” or some such.


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    #71
    GarIT
    Registered Users Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Overheal wrote: »
    How dare I suggest there are racist police in the US off the back of a smoking gun example to that effect.

    The problem isn't you suggested there are racist police. It's that you suggested police are racist.


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    #72
    Will I Am Not
    Registered Users Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭Will I Am Not


    It’s weird the way you can tar certain groups with the one brush but not others.


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    #73
    Overheal
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    GarIT wrote: »
    I disagree. It can be difficult as an individual to fight against something. It's not the responsibility of any individual to risk their career and income. Sure it's honourable if they do but people can't be blamed for protecting themselves.

    So they’re held hostage to the system from within?


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    #74
    BarnardsLoop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 193 ✭✭BarnardsLoop


    Y'know, the funniest thing is this: you have the usual names oft repeating that there seems to be some kind of off-site concerted effort to suppress totally-not-racist narratives. And yet in a thread documenting the existence of racism, there's a very sudden and very obvious glut of people rushing in to dismiss the idea that there should be a thread at all.

    If I was more suspicious, I might say there's an off-site concerted effort going on but it's not among the people who take issue with racism.

    But I'd be careful not to say something like that. c:


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    #75
    mynamejeff
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    Overheal wrote: »
    I’m not sure why you have some sort of personal issue with me but bless your heart.

    Amazing the things you’d rather talk about, like digs at me, as opposed to actually engaging the subject matter.

    do you feel persecuted ?

    you only have one agenda so far as I and many other posters can see ,


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    #76
    Tom Mann Centuria
    Registered Users Posts: 11,014 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Overheal wrote: »
    How dare I suggest there are racist police in the US off the back of a smoking gun example to that effect.

    You're suggesting Policing Is racist. Not just these three cnuts, and your title doesn't specify US police.

    It's lazy sweeping generalisations that are sh*t, on all sides of arguments, and I am normally in broad agreement with what you post.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



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    #77
    Overheal
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    Will I Am Not wrote: »
    It’s weird the way you can tar certain groups with the one brush but not others.

    Blue is a uniform, not a race. Nobody is born a police officer. You cannot he fired from being Black (well, Rachel Dolezal...)


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    #78
    CtevenSrowder
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    BarnardsLoop wrote: »
    See, things like that just demonstrate a little too clearly that you're not asking in good faith. If you're the kind of person to parrot memes like that, you're the kind of person who'd just dismiss any examples I might provide.

    What memes am I parroting? And what is wrong with what you quoted me saying exactly? There is nothing racist or xenophobic with challenging the idea that 'diversity', this in relation to cultural diversity, is not as fantastic as some people think it is. Do you disagree?

    But anyway, don't be a moral coward and tell us who these racist posters are and what they have said that is racist. Do you thnk I am, seeing as only 3 people had posted before you talked about the 'usual posters'?


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    #79
    osarusan
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    Fairly obvious that the idea that policing is racist applies to the context not just of the OP, but also to the related existing threads (George Floyd and so on), which is USA.

    Still a generalisation though.


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    #80
    GarIT
    Registered Users Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Overheal wrote: »
    So they’re held hostage to the system from within?

    Possibly yeah. Like the guy 4 days on the job, being trained by the guys who killed George Floyd. I don't really blame him for not stopping it, it can be very difficult to fight authority like that.


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    #81
    GarIT
    Registered Users Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Overheal wrote: »
    Blue is a uniform, not a race. Nobody is born a police officer. You cannot he fired from being Black (well, Rachel Dolezal...)

    So the good police should give up their jobs to avoid being called racist and leave policing to the racists?


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    #82
    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    My head hurts....

    I wonder is the wearing of masks causing people to lose many brain cells and end up talking stupid?


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    #83
    Rockbeast2
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    Police forces all over the world have a tendency to attract power-hungry bullies and what are essentially violent thugs looking for a badge to legitimize their thuggery.

    What happened there was horrible. Make no mistake, though, if there were were no blacks around these lads would be beating poor whites.


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    #84
    BarnardsLoop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 193 ✭✭BarnardsLoop


    CtevenSrowder wrote: »
    What memes am I parroting?
    There is nothing racist or xenophobic with challenging the idea that 'diversity', this in relation to cultural diversity, is not as fantastic as some people think it is.

    Nobody is labelled 'racist' or 'xenophobic' just because they take issue with diversity. And you know that as much as I do. It's a meme pushed by certain people who would like to spread the idea that they're being silenced for having supposedly reasonable views.
    But anyway, don't be a moral coward and tell us who these racist posters are and what they have said that is racist. Do you thnk I am, seeing as only 3 people had posted before you talked about the 'usual posters'?

    Ouch! "Moral coward", goodness I don't think I'll ever recover from that one.

    You're going to have to lay better bait than that, though. I've been dealing with people like yourself far longer than you seem to think and I'm not so easily baited into giving you the response you want.


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    #85
    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Rockbeast2 wrote: »
    Police forces all over the world have a tendency to attract power-hungry bullies and what are essentially violent thugs looking for a badge to legitimize their thuggery.

    What happened there was horrible. Make no mistake, though, if there were were no blacks around these lads would be beating poor whites.

    Usually they tend to be those that were bullied actually but the USA has a major issue as many are ex soldiers and have seen things and done things no human should ever have to.

    Unfortunately they come back as robots or seriously unwell.


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    #86
    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Here is something interesting....

    https://twitter.com/texasginja/status/1275497149619253248?s=21


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    #87
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Overheal wrote: »
    Wilmington NC yesterday terminated Corporal Jessie Moore and officers Kevin Piner and Brian Gilmor for their involvement in a police dash cam recording that was activated on accident.

    Discussing 2 black colleagues:



    Denigrating an arrestee based on race:



    And just straight up advocation of genocide:



    But yeah no I’m sure there’s nothing wrong with police culture definitely no racism there

    The conversation as recorded by the camera went on for 46 minutes. The fired officers claim they aren’t racist and it was just ‘stress’ that caused them to say such racist things.

    They are private citizens now who still have a right to carry firearms.

    https://www.mediaite.com/news/cops-fired-for-discussing-slaughtering-them-f-n-say-they-arent-racists/

    3 years ago a Black rapper brought out a song with the chorus below. Therefore all black people want to kill police.


    Is that how this works?

    [Hook]
    KIll The Police, Kill, Kill, Kill The Police
    A bullet to them, or a knife to go through them
    I said Kill The Police, Kill, Kill, Kill The Police


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    #88
    Rockbeast2
    Registered Users Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Rockbeast2


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Usually they tend to be those that were bullied actually but the USA has a major issue as many are ex soldiers and have seen things and done things no human should ever have to.

    Unfortunately they come back as robots or seriously unwell.

    Yeah, I met a few ex-US Military and ex-Brit squaddies whose brains are fried. It may be PTSD in some cases and have just never been able to turn off the part of their brain that was "trained" to dehumanize anyone not in their uniform.


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    CtevenSrowder
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    BarnardsLoop wrote: »
    Nobody is labelled 'racist' or 'xenophobic' just because they take issue with diversity. And you know that as much as I do. It's a meme pushed by certain people who would like to spread the idea that they're being silenced for having supposedly reasonable views.

    Not immediately no, but the accusation is never far away. It is sometimes used as an attempt to shame people into silenc, yes. But ultimately one has to have the courage of their convictions to say what they believe or think. Really it just makes for poor discussion though.

    BarnardsLoop wrote: »
    Ouch! "Moral coward", goodness I don't think I'll ever recover from that one.

    You're going to have to lay better bait than that, though. I've been dealing with people like yourself far longer than you seem to think and I'm not so easily baited into giving you the response you want.

    I'm not laying bait. You said the words so tell us who these racists are. 'People like me'? What does that mean? Do you think I am a racist? You cannot get carded for saying you do or do not since I asked you the question. But surely if I am, you can point us all to posts that shows this.


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    #90
    punisher5112
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    Rockbeast2 wrote: »
    Yeah, I met a few ex-US Military and ex-Brit squaddies whose brains are fried. It may be PTSD in some cases and have just never been able to turn off the part of their brain that was "trained" to dehumanize anyone not in their uniform.

    And I don't mean to tar all them the same but they don't have enough help.and services to cope after.

    Very sad.


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    #91
    y0ssar1an22
    Registered Users Posts: 17,078 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    Risingshadoo wrote: »
    This is in America right?
    CtevenSrowder wrote: »
    Why you have you posted this on boards.ie. Is there no American equivalent for you?
    coinop wrote: »
    I remember Boards used to have an American Politics sub forum to move this trash to so the rest of us could ignore it. What ever happened to it?

    dont see how thats relevant. discuss the case if you like on its merits surely?

    personally, i will read the articles before reaching a conclusion.


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