The National Party

Brian?

it’s amazing how few people are talking about the violence committed by foreigners. While the volume of discussions I see online about the violence committed by foreigners grows every week.

Beechwoodspark

Folks - another candidate to consider is Malachy Steenson.

He is a solicitor and running in Dublin for local elections.

He favours sane sensible immigration policies.

Seems a decent, smart man who is horrified at the huge deterioration of Irish society over the last few years.

Just to show how biased and skewed the mainstream media has become -

Malachy was unfortunately subject to a man arriving at his election HQ with the aim of killing him a few days ago.

He got into the office complex and was on his way to kill (self confessed motive) when he was apprehended.

The man was apprehended and arrested by guards.

I only found out about this by looking at Malachy Twitter and other alternative media Twitter.

Not a word about it on RTÉ …

ancapailldorcha

Nope. Another Nazi grifter:

Malachy Steenson, a solicitor and former Workers’ Party election candidate who has been involved in anti-asylum seeker protests, defended the demonstration that included a mock gallows and portraits of politicians.

Protesters shouted “traitors” and obscenities at staff and politicians attempting to enter and exit Leinster House, while politicians were also blocked from leaving the parliamentary precinct via the Merrion Street entrance on Wednesday evening.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/anti-migrant-campaigner-defends-protesters-shouting-abuse-at-politicians-and-calls-scenes-outside-dail-a-minor-skirmish/a808519823.html

I know people don't like politicians but I live in the UK where we've had two murdered not long ago. We know where this leads and there are people here actively defending and promoting it.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122150585#Comment_122150585

We cannot have one rule for the National Party and another rule for others.

There are extremists on both sides, and none of this violence is acceptable.

https://twitter.com/JimFergusonUK/status/1790854906422681666

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122150585#Comment_122150585

Do you know what his stance is on abortion? Marriage equality? Irish membership of the EU?

Or ehat ideas does he has regarding immigration control?

suvigirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122150621#Comment_122150621

' assassination attempt ' 😂

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122150642#Comment_122150642

Both sides as well..

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122150621#Comment_122150621

Yep. Agreed. Guy was apparently arrested according to the journal and will appear in court and rightfully so.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122150642#Comment_122150642

I think this pretty much proves my point.

When violence is meted out to election candidates by members of the National Party, it's deplored (and rightly so).

But when violence is meted out to election candidates by members of the far-left, it becomes a subject of humour to the same people.

It's blatant hypocrisy.

I'm at least consistent in that I think both forms of political, violent extremism should be called out.

suvigirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122150657#Comment_122150657

HHe was arrested under the Public Order Act. Not for attempted murder

nachouser

I'm gonna go out on a limb here, but if you're getting your news from this guy, you should probably have a re-think re the kind of stuff you're consuming.

elperello

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122150665#Comment_122150665

Just to be clear, Steenson was not actually present when the "assassination attempt" took place.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122150657#Comment_122150657

I literally agreed with your point and the poster you replied to didn't.

Kinda selective of the points you reply to....?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122150746#Comment_122150746

Imagine if the tables were turned, and someone from the National Party was intent on causing violence or murder to a political opponent.

Imagine if I came on here and argued, "Well, the person involved was not actually present…".

In other words, it would be a flagrant attempt to minimize the action of the aggressor — and it's appalling.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122150746#Comment_122150746

So he lied. Shocker.

suvigirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122150826#Comment_122150826

How exactly was there an assassination attempt on someone, who wasn't there?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122150852#Comment_122150852

For sure, he was arrested because he planned to do nothing wrong.

suvigirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122150862#Comment_122150862

No, he was arrested for an offence under the Public Order Act.

downthemiddle

It is currently an allegation being made by Steenson. The Gardai have not , at the moment, said that they are investigating a threat to life. It is currently a public order offence.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122150826#Comment_122150826

It's pretty fair to put "assassination attempt" in quotes, it was a public order offence. I completely favour him being convicted for any crimes but he's not up on charges for attempted murder by the looks of it. You're very particularly about the definition of words but a claimed "assassination attempt" gets a pass.

https://www.thejournal.ie/malachy-steenson-public-order-incident-arrest-dublin-6382726-May2024/

Hotblack Desiato

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122150585#Comment_122150585

Is he a member of the National Party?

This isn't the "shill for a random right-winger" thread.

elperello

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122150826#Comment_122150826

Imagine....

What I posted is the simple unvarnished truth.

You're appalled, I'm not surprised.

elperello

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122150832#Comment_122150832

And it probably won't come before the courts until long after the election.

Job done.

scottser

The NPs threats of violence are very real and to be taken seriously. While I never find the prospect of violence appealing, with these fukkers, I maintain that our right to self-defence is paramount. Learning when and how is a must for everyone no matter your situation or context.

I would encourage everyone to check out self defence classes in your area.

Just to put the "threat from the National Party" into some wider context (not least because of the very post above this), there were 19,739 cases of "murder, assaults, harassments and related offences" in 2021 in this country.

Yes, the National Party and far-right are no doubt a sprinkling of these cases, but the number of cases is so vanishingly small that it is effectively irrelevant when compared to the total number of violent crimes committed throughout the country.

When these cases do arise, a disproportionate amount of attention is given to them (on this forum) — as if they reflect a widespread threat throughout cities and the country generally. Are these crimes bad? Of course they are. Are they justified? Never. But are they amplified as if it presented a greater risk than actually is the case? Yes, they are. It's obvious.

Violent crime has risen in the country. Of that there is no doubt. But rather than focus on the threat from the actual primary causes of crime in this country, a disproportionate amount of time is spent on one or two isolated cases of some demented nutjob from the National Party. That fact, coupled to their negligible polling and political oblivion at every single election, should lead everyone to the same conclusion that I have come to: that they aren't a serious threat to the country, but that any isolated case of violence should be treated with the same opprobrium we apply to any other case of violence — not more, not less.

As I said earlier, nobody in the real world even considers the National Party or its members. They are effectively an invisible force, except — of course — to those on social media and elsewhere who spend a frightening amount of their time on every member, on everything they say, on everything they do. Baselessly ratcheting up the fear for no reason other than political expediency. Some people simply want a "far-right threat" to exist for the sake of fighting against it. But it doesn't exist, at least not to any meaningful degree. They need to accept this and move on.

Everyone else in the real world are instead focussed on the rise of crime in cities and towns throughout the country — not because of this phantom far-right threat, but because of actual scumbags and thugs and criminal monsters that continue to feel emboldened to do whatever they please — the actual 99.9% of cases of the figure quoted at the very dawn of this post.

I.R.Y.E.D

So more head case candidates both siding and fake Orwell quotes aside, had a bit of a laugh reading this

https://www.thephoenix.ie/article/justin-barrett-lays-down-the-law/

nachouser

The National Party are a bunch of shitbags. We're all in agreement about that. Yeah? So, why would anyone defend them? This thread should just be a "Oh, look what the latest wannabe Nazi has done now."

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122151008#Comment_122151008

So... we can dismiss the assaults perpetrated by political parties because they don't form a high statistical percentage of the total.…?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122151172#Comment_122151172

No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying what I said in my post.

It reminds me of this:

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122151193#Comment_122151193

In posted about the number of assaults in Ireland and them said:

the number of cases is so vanishingly small that it is effectively irrelevant when compared to the total number of violent crimes committed throughout the country

So it certainly looks like that's what you said. There's no orher reason to pull up that statistic.

(Can't see the imagine, on data restriction)