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    #1172
    [Deleted User]
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    So if the Nazis gave out food packets back in the day, they deserve praise for that little bit of good? Or how about the KKK doing so? Null, you're just trying to find reasons to complain... Think I have pretty reasonable grounds for having zero time for anything they do.


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    #1173
    The Raging Bile Duct
    Registered Users Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭The Raging Bile Duct


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    #1174
    dan1895
    Registered Users Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    Munsterman12 wrote: »
    A new party is needed. Not the national party I'll give you that.

    I don't disagree. The right wing parties that have popped up in the last few years have been too extreme on certain issues that most sane people wouldn't touch them. I agree that a right of centre alternative to FG would be ideal from that point of view but would enough voters move from FG to make it worth while.


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    #1175
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    The Raging Bile Duct wrote: »
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    Why must you engage in moral one upmanship? The KKK doing their little bit of good. :P


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    #1176
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    So if the Nazis gave out food packets back in the day, they deserve praise for that little bit of good? Or how about the KKK doing so? Null, you're just trying to find reasons to complain... Think I have pretty reasonable grounds for having zero time for anything they do.

    Springs to mind with you


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    #1177
    eagle eye
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    It doesn't matter where a human being comes from, they all deserve to be treated equally, unless they show they don't deserve it.


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    #1178
    nullzero
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    So if the Nazis gave out food packets back in the day, they deserve praise for that little bit of good? Or how about the KKK doing so? Null, you're just trying to find reasons to complain... Think I have pretty reasonable grounds for having zero time for anything they do.

    I'm not saying they should be praised, but a good deed is a good deed, even if the intent behind it is questionable. The National Party are abhorrent to me but if they help a few people let them at it.

    Glazers Out!



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    #1179
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    GT89 wrote: »
    Springs to mind with you

    You realise Justin used give talks to neo Nazis? Pretty reasonable description of the party that you fawn over.


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    #1180
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 29,093 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    GT89 wrote: »
    Every homeless person I've seen in Dublin at least is white Irish. I'm not saying there's no foreign homeless people just doesn't appear to very many of them.

    You really have no clue, do you?

    https://www.homelessdublin.ie/content/files/Migrants-and-homeless-services-in-the-Dublin-Region-a-briefing-paper.pdf


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    #1181
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 29,093 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Munsterman12 wrote: »
    A new party is needed. Not the national party I'll give you that.

    Right of FG? Something like the PDs or Renua perhaps?

    Both of which sunk without trace.


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    #1182
    nullzero
    Registered Users Posts: 17,060 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    You really have no clue, do you?

    https://www.homelessdublin.ie/content/files/Migrants-and-homeless-services-in-the-Dublin-Region-a-briefing-paper.pdf

    If anything, the fact that people migrating into this country are ending up on the streets is evidence that our immigration policies are flawed. It must be awful to come to a country for a better life and end up on the streets.

    Glazers Out!



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    #1183
    nullzero
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    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    Right of FG? Something like the PDs or Renua perhaps?

    Both of which sunk without trace.

    Both of which were moderate conservative parties, the fact that they disappeared shows how little an appetite the Irish people have for anything right of FF or FG which leave the NP as a rising political force as a laughable notion.

    Glazers Out!



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    #1184
    Munsterman12
    Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭Munsterman12


    eagle eye wrote: »
    It doesn't matter where a human being comes from, they all deserve to be treated equally, unless they show they don't deserve it.

    Absolutely. We are all human. However we should look after our own people first. I always thought 1% max should be allocated to foreign nationals.


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    #1185
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 38,510 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Munsterman12 wrote:
    Absolutely. We are all human. However we should look after our own people first. I always thought 1% max should be allocated to foreign nationals.
    Our own people? Aren't we all from the same planet?


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    #1186
    seamus
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    Munsterman12 wrote: »
    A new party is needed. Not the national party I'll give you that.
    It's not really. We have a wide range of parties, who seem to be enough to cater to the desires of the electorate.

    The fact that there is no large right-wing party is a reflection of the fact that people don't want them.

    Aontú exist, and if people wanted religious conservatism, anti-immigration, jackboot justice, neo-liberal capitalism and morality police they would be bigger. But they're not.


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    #1187
    Munsterman12
    Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭Munsterman12


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Our own people? Aren't we all from the same planet?

    Irish people!


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    #1188
    GirlatdRockShow
    Registered Users Posts: 220 ✭✭GirlatdRockShow


    Ah yes the national party, a party that is keen to sell itself on good old fashioned family values. All while being headed up by an anti divorce campaigner who left his first wife for a young wan 20 years younger then him and is estranged from his older kids. You couldn't make it up.


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    #1189
    FileNotFound
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    Did I not see some woman - an active party member of this lot - drinking cans with a miss spelt hoodie - encouraging violence in Dublin last weekend???

    Good old fashioned values on display haha.... What a farce.


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    #1190
    DelaneysMule
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 70 ✭✭DelaneysMule


    GirlatdRockShow wrote: »
    Ah yes the national party, a party that is keen to sell itself on good old fashioned family values. All while being headed up by an anti divorce campaigner who left his first wife for a young wan 20 years younger then him and is estranged from his older kids. You couldn't make it up.


    What age were they when they met?


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    #1191
    FileNotFound
    Registered Users Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭FileNotFound


    DelaneysMule wrote: »
    What age were they when they met?

    Does it matter? Hypocrisy is just that....

    Can't excuse one and refuse to accept another.



    A party lead by a hypocrite who can fool followers is a sorry lot - at least we can all agree on that.


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    #1192
    DelaneysMule
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 70 ✭✭DelaneysMule


    FileNotFound wrote: »
    Does it matter? Hypocrisy is just that....

    Can't excuse one and refuse to accept another.



    A party lead by a hypocrite who can fool followers is a sorry lot - at least we can all agree on that.




    I totally agree with you. I'm just curious about Rebeccas age when they met initially. We already know Justin was considerably older.


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    #1193
    GirlatdRockShow
    Registered Users Posts: 220 ✭✭GirlatdRockShow


    DelaneysMule wrote: »
    What age were they when they met?

    I'm not privy to that information but there is an article online that says he separated from the first wife around 2008.
    However, would prefer not to link here as it identifies his older children and don't think that's fair.


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    #1194
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,457 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    ArchXStanton wrote: »
    How many terrorist attacks or racially/religious motivated incidents in those countries?... If anything they're p!ssing themselves laughing at the idiocy of the rest of the EU... Of course they have to demonised for it...

    how many in this country?


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    #1195
    DelaneysMule
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 70 ✭✭DelaneysMule


    GirlatdRockShow wrote: »
    I'm not privy to that information but there is an article online that says he separated from the first wife around 2008.
    However, would prefer not to link here as it identifies his older children and don't think that's fair.




    According to that he was 37 in at the time of the separation so. Anyone know what age Rebecca is now?


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    #1196
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,211 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    GT89 wrote: »
    And fair play to them. I was replying to a post that was referring specifically to the National Party. The National Party are a political party correct and I was making the point that I don't see very many political parties doing anything to help the homeless on the streets.

    Were you in Borrisokane the night the locals threw the national party's leader Barrett out of the local hall and into the street. Apparently he ( even though he's tiny) was trying to talk down to them and telling them to refuse help to immigrants.


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    #1197
    DerekC16
    Registered Users Posts: 183 ✭✭DerekC16


    realdanbreen wrote: »
    Were you in Borrisokane the night the locals threw the national party's leader Barrett out of the local hall and into the street. Apparently he ( even though he's tiny) was trying to talk down to them and telling them to refuse help to immigrants.

    That never happened. Theres video online of that meeting and the people in the hall are clapping and agreeing with what hes saying. It was nothing to do with immigrants either.


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    #1198
    dan1895
    Registered Users Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    DerekC16 wrote: »
    That never happened. Theres video online of that meeting and the people in the hall are clapping and agreeing with what hes saying.

    Link please


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    #1199
    newhouse87
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    DerekC16 wrote: »
    That never happened. Theres video online of that meeting and the people in the hall are clapping and agreeing with what hes saying. It was nothing to do with immigrants either.

    Local councilor Joe hannigan was fuming with Barrett, and told him in no uncertain terms his agenda wasnt wanted.


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    #1200
    DerekC16
    Registered Users Posts: 183 ✭✭DerekC16


    newhouse87 wrote: »
    Local councilor Joe hannigan was fuming with Barrett, and told him in no uncertain terms his agenda wasnt wanted.

    A councillor disagreeing with him is a little different than him being thrown out of the hall which is what Dan Breen claimed. It never happened. The people of Borrisokane dont need Joe Hannigan to speak for them.


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    #1201
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,211 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    DerekC16 wrote: »
    That never happened. Theres video online of that meeting and the people in the hall are clapping and agreeing with what hes saying. It was nothing to do with immigrants either.

    I was there son it did happen. The only clapping came from the goons that Barrett brought to the meeting thinking he could stir it up. He was almost crying with temper out on the street.


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