I think its safe to say; Leo will go down as one of this countries greatest ever...

ittakestwo

There was no increase in the last budget.

''The total social protection budget in 2020 will be €21.1 billion.

Social welfare payments
There will be no increase in weekly social welfare payments. However, there are some changes to Jobseeker’s Allowance for people aged 25 and people aged under 25''

https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/money_and_tax/budgets/budget_2020.html

In 2009 the JSB was €208 per week, today it is €203 per week. Also under 25 JSB cut in half since 2009. Its just wrong in stating that people on the social welfare have got all the increase over the last few years at the expense of the middle class. People on social welfare have got pretty much nothing under the last government despite hearing in nearly every thread to do with politics about how they ''got everything'' or being ''rewarded at the expense of the middle class''. And I am not saying the middle class has got much either, just nobody seems to have got much probably due to the fact the country's finances was left in a shocker after the Celtic bubble burst in 2008 and took years to fix.

joeguevara

ittakestwo wrote: »

There was no increase in the last budget.

''The total social protection budget in 2020 will be €21.1 billion.

Social welfare payments
There will be no increase in weekly social welfare payments. However, there are some changes to Jobseeker’s Allowance for people aged 25 and people aged under 25''

https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/money_and_tax/budgets/budget_2020.html

In 2009 the JSB was €208 per week, today it is €203 per week. Also under 25 JSB cut in half since 2009. Its just wrong in stating that people on the social welfare have got all the increase over the last few years at the expense of the middle class. People on social welfare have got pretty much nothing under the last government despite hearing in nearly every thread to do with politics about how they ''got everything'' or being ''rewarded at the expense of the middle class''. And I am not saying the middle class has got much either, just nobody seems to have got much probably due to the fact the country's finances was left in a shocker after the Celtic bubble burst in 2008 and took years to fix.

Here are all the increase in social welfare. There was many increases.
https://www.thejournal.ie/social-welfare-payments-increase-this-week-4956557-Jan2020/


There was a 690 mil increase in the budget for social welfare.

https://www.thejournal.ie/heres-what-budget-2020-means-for-people-receiving-social-welfare-payments-4843534-Oct2019/

ittakestwo

joeguevara wrote: »

Here are all the increase in social welfare. There was many increases.
https://www.thejournal.ie/social-welfare-payments-increase-this-week-4956557-Jan2020/


There was a 690 mil increase in the budget for social welfare.

https://www.thejournal.ie/heres-what-budget-2020-means-for-people-receiving-social-welfare-payments-4843534-Oct2019/

Apart from rent allowance which goes to landlords tell me one social welfare payment that is higher today than it was in 2009.

joeguevara

ittakestwo wrote: »

Apart from rent allowance which goes to landlords tell me one social welfare payment that is higher today than it was in 2009.

Literally listed in the 2 links above

ExMachina1000

How does one become eligible for hap payments?
Iv lost interest in paying my own rent. I could use that money for other things

joeguevara

ittakestwo wrote: »

Apart from rent allowance which goes to landlords tell me one social welfare payment that is higher today than it was in 2009.

Literally in the 2 links I posted

Ultima Thule

*country's

Hannibal36

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

How does one become eligible for hap payments?
Iv lost interest in paying my own rent. I could use that money for other things

Just get in the good graces of the council homeless officer in your local county council should do the trick,they are the kingmakers in this area,if you are female even better,plenty of them are giving the best houses to the most obliging females.I am sure some of them like males so all is not lost if you are not female.

realdanbreen

We'll never forget you Theo!

ittakestwo

joeguevara wrote: »

Literally listed in the 2 links above

No, what social payment (apart from rent allowance that goes to landlord) is higher in 2020 than it was in 2009... not 2019.

Today nearly every social welfare payment is lower than it was 11 years ago. Its a myth by saying people on social welfare have done well under the last government and have got all the increases at the expense of the middle class.

James Brown

theballz wrote: »

Nonsense. No he wasn’t.

You could laugh at Kenny.
Varadkar was more cringeworthy.

JohnnyFlash

The dude had a 75% approval rating in the last opinion poll. It seems a 3/4 majority found him a competent and decent man. Highest approval ratings ever apart from Bertie just after the signing of the GFA.

McMurphy

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

The dude had a 75% approval rating in the last opinion poll. It seems a 3/4 majority found him a competent and decent man. .

That'll make the dude extremely happy JF.

theballz

Rough first week for FF. really wish leo was at the helm right now.

Pintman Paddy Losty

I know FG got all of the big boy ministries, but it's kind of embarrassing watching this new government flailing from one thing to another.

Cowen boozing...Ryan sleeping...Roderic O'Gorman having a shady past.


You'd miss the days of Leo's steady leadership.

Wanderer78

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote:

Cowen boozing...Ryan sleeping...Roderic O'Gorman having a shady past.

These really aren't all that serious, I'm sure they ll do just as good and bad as the other lads

CrankyHaus

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

You'd miss the days of Leo's steady leadership.

Like his decisive action over Maria Bailey?

Bullocks

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

I know FG got all of the big boy ministries, but it's kind of embarrassing watching this new government flailing from one thing to another.

Cowen boozing...Ryan sleeping...Roderic O'Gorman having a shady past.


You'd miss the days of Leo's steady leadership.

I actually do. I'd be much happier with the old crew staying as they were for another year or two

Idbatterim

Are you on crack op ? Fg are in government, we keep stumbling from disaster to the next , what has changed? Do you remember a few months fg being hammered in the election, based on a shambolic performance?

PhilOssophy

No. Don't forget cervical check, children's hospital, Irish Water to name 3 off the very top of my head.
Judge FG over their entire tenure, not over a pandemic period. And judge the new rainbow coalition over their lifetime.
But what really irks me is the amount of time and energy that goes into "pound of flesh" incidents like Barry Cowen compared to what goes in to doing what they are elected to do, i.e. deal with the myriad of issues we have as a country.

McMurphy

CrankyHaus wrote: »

Like his decisive action over Maria Bailey?

Sssssh....

Yurt2

As above, they really really made the most of the 'pull on the green jersey' sentiment during the pandemic. FG were not a popular government or even a particularly competent one. A lot went wrong under their watch and they exacerbated some chronic ones.

Very short memories

Bullocks

Yurt! wrote: »

As above, they really really made the most of the 'pull on the green jersey' sentiment during the pandemic. FG were not a popular government or even a particularly competent one. A lot went wrong under their watch and they exacerbated some chronic ones.

Very short memories

Short enough to let FF and the GP back in power you could say

Idbatterim

Bullocks wrote: »

Short enough to let FF and the GP back in power you could say

Fg let them back into power with a horrendous nearly decade..

PhilOssophy

Bullocks wrote: »

Short enough to let FF and the GP back in power you could say

Somebody had to form a government, since SF had no interest in forming one. I hope people's short memories extend to the next election and remind them.

Mr. Karate

The way Varadkar tries to act like he's still in charge you wouldn't notice a difference.

pjohnson

Idbatterim wrote: »

Fg let them back into power with a horrendous nearly decade..

Oh you dislike FG today!

Idbatterim

pjohnson wrote: »

Oh you dislike FG today!

Are you serious ? They've been a disgrace since near day one, varadkar with his spoof was one hell of a false dawn... fool me once!

Idbatterim

PhilOssophy wrote: »

Somebody had to form a government, since SF had no interest in forming one. I hope people's short memories extend to the next election and remind them.

I'd say their popularity is only going to grow. Housing situation will get worse and hundreds of thousands of jobs on the line effecting mamy young people. Cant wait for the budget, fg talimg about FG economic mismanagement is comedy

James Brown

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

I know FG got all of the big boy ministries, but it's kind of embarrassing watching this new government flailing from one thing to another.

Cowen boozing...Ryan sleeping...Roderic O'Gorman having a shady past.


You'd miss the days of Leo's steady leadership.

I've still Hopes the new outfit will tackle rather than exacerbate the FG created record breaking crises, despite FG.

Idbatterim

Bowie wrote: »

I've still Hopes the new outfit will tackle rather than exacerbate the FG created record breaking crises, despite FG.

They might , only because they are looking at decimation if they dont I honestly dont think they will. Look at the handling of covid. There is no direction, leadership, accountability, nothing....

Thats not just going to show up one morning... the country ie a reflection of the appalling candidate that run for election here...

Actually I am editing and adding this bit, its border delusional to expect any improvement. They are choosing to fcuk the economy now, where will the money come from ?

joseywhales

I would say it's far too early to tell, has it even been a month?

Man Vs ManUre

With Martin in charge and that gimp with the long stubble half beard in charge of health, I think this coronavirus will kill us all before Xmas.

John_Rambo

Globally speaking, Ireland handled Covid-19 very well. FG listened to the experts and acted quickly and decisively against uproar and indignation (IRE V Italy 6 nations cancellation). I'm glad they were in charge to be honest.

Idbatterim

John_Rambo wrote: »

Globally speaking, Ireland handled Covid-19 very well. FG listened to the experts and acted quickly and decisively against uproar and indignation (IRE V Italy 6 nations cancellation). I'm glad they were in charge to be honest.

According to Who did they do a good job? Rte ?

Jinglejangle69

Ah well here we are now.

Another FG hate thread for the usual suspects.

Get over it, they were voted out.

You lads are obsessed beyond belief that its weird with Leo and FG.

Very strange.

Jinglejangle69

Idbatterim wrote: »

According to Who did they do a good job? Rte ?

Ah you're just constantly angry with Leo the rat splinter, isn't that what you call him?

You need to get over it.

Grow a set.

Jinglejangle69

Idbatterim wrote: »

Are you serious ? They've been a disgrace since near day one, varadkar with his spoof was one hell of a false dawn... fool me once!

You voted for them 3 years ago!!!

Seriously go to bed.

antimatterx

Buzzing for December 15th 2022 wheb they FG take control again.

As a FG member, yes, I miss being the top dogs.

Idbatterim

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Ah you're just constantly angry with Leo the rat splinter, isn't that what you call him?

You need to get over it.

Grow a set.

The joke with the nursing homes, borders still wide open . The pubs can open , oh wait a minute, no you cant... the financial implications will be clear in the budget , cant wait!

Yeah I think I I did vote for them there years ago , best if a bad lot was my thought process, I was wrong. I cam now judge them on their entire term , a disgrace...

antimatterx

Idbatterim wrote: »

I'd say their popularity is only going to grow. Housing situation will get worse and hundreds of thousands of jobs on the line effecting mamy young people. Cant wait for the budget, fg talimg about FG economic mismanagement is comedy

Sorry, the housing situation is getting better with the number of new properties coming to market.

Jinglejangle69

Idbatterim wrote: »

The joke with the nursing homes, borders still wide open . The pubs can open , oh wait a minute, no you cant... the financial implications will be clear in the budget , cant wait!

Listen.

Leo isn't in charge anymore.

Go asleep and start again tomorrow.

Jinglejangle69

Idbatterim wrote: »

The joke with the nursing homes, borders still wide open . The pubs can open , oh wait a minute, no you cant... the financial implications will be clear in the budget , cant wait!

Yeah I think I I did vote for them there years ago , best if a bad lot was my thought process, I was wrong. I cam now judge them on their entire term , a disgrace...

They were in government from 2011.

You voted for them in 2016.

You said they have been a disgrace since day one.

Why did you vote for them again after them been a disgrace as you said from day one ???

Idbatterim

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

They were in government from 2011.

Yiu voted for them in 2016.

You said they have been a disgrace since day one.

Why did you vote for them again???

Explained above. They have more interest in representing the Margaret cash of society than any worker ....

Jinglejangle69

Idbatterim wrote: »

Explained above. They have more interest in representing the Margaret cash of society than any worker ....

So you're voting SF next?

The party who had Maggie Cash in front of them at a march??

Please look at what you are posting...

Idbatterim

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Listen.

Leo isn't in charge anymore.

Go asleep and start again tomorrow.

Why isnt he in charge ? Losing power during a boom ffs, ff havent even achieved that.... do you remember fg electoral implosion or do you think I have several hundred thousand votes or something

Jinglejangle69

Idbatterim wrote: »

Why isnt he in charge ? Losing power during a boom ffs, ff havent even achieved that.... do you remember fg electoral implosion or do you think I have several hundred thousand votes or something

I have no idea what you are actually posting at the moment.

You're making no sense.

Edgware

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

So you're voting SF next?

The party who had Maggie Cash in front of them at a march??

Please look at what you are posting...

How's Violet doing on the rent arrears

Adam9213

Don't think there's much of a different to be honest just a few different faces.

Jinglejangle69

Edgware wrote: »

How's Violet doing on the rent arrears

Swept under the rug.