All Ireland Senior Hurling Championship (Liam Mccarthy Cup) 2020

tipp_tipp_tipp

Level in croke park!

breezy1985

All part of Codys master plan Im sure

threeball

TJ missing frees as well. Set up for a shock. Cody will ate them.

PTH2009

jesus what happend too Kilkenny ?, great comeback for Dublin but sadly not enough

Waterford finally winning in the championship, nothing too lose in the Munster final

tipp_tipp_tipp

The cats win by a point. Happy for Dublin that they got back into it and didn't get a hiding! Something to take into the qualifiers.

Bonniedog

Jaysus. Great comeback but not enough.

ShamoBuc

Thought Kilkenny had already collected Liam
Dublin with a fine comeback, although just not enough.
Tomorrows game should be a cracker.

castletownman

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Hoggie really has a beautiful strike of the ball.

The figurehead of the worst Cork team of my lifetime. Good hurler alright but has never dragged his team to a level higher than their current ability.

Chalk McHugh

Have no idea what happened in Dublin game. But sounds like a terrific Dubs comeback that fell agonisingly short. No shame in losing after leaving everything on the pitch. Pity.

C__MC

We seen Dublin hurling summed up there in 75 mins
The worst and the best
Jury still out on kk

TheMilkyPirate

Is there a strong wind in croke park?

ShamoBuc

castletownman wrote: »

The figurehead of the worst Cork team of my lifetime. Good hurler alright but has never dragged his team to a level higher than their current ability.

Hoggie has dragged Cork along for years. His scoring record speaks for itself.
It's hardly his fault.
We've been lucky he's been an ever present player. I shudder to think of this Cork team without him.

conor05

C__MC wrote: »

We seen Dublin hurling summed up there in 75 mins
The worst and the best
Jury still out on kk

Dublin have some fantastic hurlers.

It’s belief I think they are missing.

Bonniedog

TheMilkyPirate wrote: »

Is there a strong wind in Croke park?

Not particularly from watching it. Swirling maybe. Didn't account for what was very strange match. 16 points down at one stage?

CorkSport

tipp_tipp_tipp wrote: »

Delighted for Cahill and waterford. Very good display and well deserved winners.

Yes, Cork supporters will recognise that always but, with respect, Waterford did well today because they were allowed to. Cork supporters have had enough - this team tests every fibre of their patience; gutless; no ball winners in the air; obvious tactics not acted upon (Waterford's half back dominance); etc. Diarmuid O'Sullivan in 2018 called Cork supporters 'fickle' - I reckon he needs to revise that assessment. Horrible to watch our great County slide year on year!!!

Billy Ocean

Billy Ocean wrote: »

Kilkenny are definitely overrated, yes there a top 5 or 6 team at the same level as the likes of wexford or galway but talk in some sections of the media of them definitely being a top 3 team, having possibly the best panel in the country are off the mark in my view, seen people suggesting a competitive showing would be a decent effort for Dublin next Saturday which is crazy stuff to me.

I maintain what I said above...

ShamoBuc

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Thought Kilkenny had already collected Liam
Dublin with a fine comeback, although just not enough.
Tomorrows game should be a cracker.

The one this evening should be good stuff too. Two teams that would have one eye on it this year.

Billy Ocean

Billy Ocean wrote: »

I maintain what I said above...

Deleted User wrote: »

Kilkenny are going to win the whole shabang.

Me too.

mountgomery burns

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Hoggie has dragged Cork along for years. His scoring record speaks for itself.
It's hardly his fault.
We've been lucky he's been an ever present player. I shudder to think of this Cork team without him.

Yep and again 0-5 points from play today, couldn't fault him. Super hurler, and just like after that mercurial performance in Croker last year I feel sorry for the man as to when he came along. Wouldn't be out of place in any great Cork team.

Hard luck today, we were due one.

thelad95

Jaysus that was heart stopping stuff, you can be guaranteed Cody won't let that happen again. There was nothing in it at the end Kilkenny just got the bounces and a moment of inspiration from Huw Lawlor was the difference in the end.

Funnily enough, I thought Kilkenny were actually a bit off the boil in the first half too, those three goals weren't an indictment of the Dublin defense moreso just three absolute moments of magic, I didn't feel there had actually been much in it and the halftime scoreline had flattered Kilkenny.

Wouldn't be surprised if Dublin went on a run in the qualifiers, they showed enough tonight to be a challenge to any other side. Tipp and Limerick won't be fearful of Kilkenny at all looking on tonight.

Dyr

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

Have no idea what happened in Dublin game. But sounds like a terrific Dubs comeback that fell agonisingly short. No shame in losing after leaving everything on the pitch. Pity.

It was something I've never seen with a Cody team, they fell asleep for the second half

threeball

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Hoggie has dragged Cork along for years. His scoring record speaks for itself.
It's hardly his fault.
We've been lucky he's been an ever present player. I shudder to think of this Cork team without him.

Exactly, he can't do much more than scoring 15pts a game. Its those round him that need to man up

threeball

I expect this to be a great game. Wexford play Real hard running blood and guts stuff and you have to match them to stay with them. If wexford don't bring it they'll get a kicking and they know it so I expect a high tempo to this game tonight.

breezy1985

thelad95 wrote: »

you can be guaranteed Cody won't let that happen again. .

God Im so sick of this line. Cody doesnt get to choose whether this happens again or not and if the players arent good enough this will happen again.


He doesnt have the team he used to and fair play KK made the final last year but have won FA for a few years now and got serious beatin in the final

C__MC

It should be remembered alot of teams first game in months

So far games very open and high scoring and the usual championship intensity

Teams struggling with 70 minute games as well

slegs

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Me too.

Breaking news. Kilkenny man thinks Kilkenny will win All Ireland.

seligehgit

threeball wrote: »

I expect this to be a great game. Wexford play Real hard running blood and guts stuff and you have to match them to stay with them. If wexford don't bring it they'll get a kicking and they know it so I expect a high tempo to this game tonight.

It should be a cracker.

threeball

breezy1985 wrote: »

God Im so sick of this line. Cody doesnt get to choose whether this happens again or not and if the players arent good enough this will happen again.


He doesnt have the team he used to and fair play KK made the final last year but have won FA for a few years now and got serious beatin in the final

That wasn't down to skill, fitness, tactics or not being good enough, that was purely mindset. Its definitely something Cody can and will impose on the team simply by being ruthless and subbing anyone who starts dropping the pace. The others will get the message.

slegs

slegs wrote: »

Breaking news. Kilkenny man thinks Kilkenny will win All Ireland.

First time in a few years I've thought it.

breezy1985

threeball wrote: »

That wasn't down to skill, fitness, tactics or not being good enough, that was purely mindset. Its definitely something Cody can and will impose on the team simply by being ruthless and subbing anyone who starts dropping the pace. The others will get the message.

Ya he will tell them to make sure they win better next time. I bet his opposition manager would never think of saying that.


He cant sub and drop like he used to because the players are not there to rotate. Hes a great manager and probably getting more from this average KK team than anyone else but if screaming at these lads is all it takes then why didnt it work last year or the year before that or 2017

threeball

breezy1985 wrote: »

Ya he will tell them to make sure they win better next time. I bet his opposition manager would never think of saying that.


He cant sub and drop like he used to because the players are not there to rotate. Hes a great manager and probably getting more from this average KK team than anyone else but if screaming at these lads is all it takes then why didnt it work last year or the year before that or 2017

Different situation. They weren't running away with any game last year so there was no chance of pulling up on the home straight. That game tonight was done and dusted and they dropped off 20 to 30%.

breezy1985

threeball wrote: »

Different situation. They weren't running away with any game last year so there was no chance of pulling up on the home straight. That game tonight was done and dusted and they dropped off 20 to 30%.

So what you are saying is against Dublin this wont happen again. Because they are never gonna be 16 points up against anyone else.They were 9 ahead of Limerick and barely got over the line and I cant think of any other time they were able to pull a big lead out

tipp_tipp_tipp

Fire works in croke park tonight

threeball

breezy1985 wrote: »

So what you are saying is against Dublin this wont happen again. Because they are never gonna be 16 points up against anyone else.They were 9 ahead of Limerick and barely got over the line and I cant think of any other time they were able to pull a big lead out

If you can't see the difference between a team taking their foot off the pedal and a team being hauled in despite their best efforts then I can't help you.

threeball

Dublin sounds like a warzone tonight. The lockdown being strictly observed it seems.

C__MC

Is this championship going to be a shootout on who can score more

Very very open and little hurling being done

tipp_tipp_tipp

That pick-up from chin :cool:

breezy1985

threeball wrote: »

If you can't see the difference between a team taking their foot off the pedal and a team being hauled in despite their best efforts then I can't help you.

I can see the difference all I was saying was that was the only other example I could think of where KK had a big lead.

You are saying Cody wont let this happen again but how often will he be in this situation again unless you mean he wont let it happen against Dublin or Laois.


What in your own words ruthless thing will Cody impose that will make them beat any team going forward?

threeball

breezy1985 wrote: »

I can see the difference all I was saying was that was the only other example I could think of where KK had a big lead.

You are saying Cody wont let this happen again but how often will he be in this situation again unless you mean he wont let it happen against Dublin or Laois.


What in your own words ruthless thing will Cody impose that will make them beat any team going forward?

You gave an example of a game where KK didn't pull up.
Who knows who they'll put up a lead against. Regardless of who it is they won't lose the lead due to lack of concentration.

threeball

A goal will be huge in this game.

Happyilylost

Joke. Joke. Joke. Give the goal or send him off.

4Ad

I hate the water break in hurling ? Do we really need it ??

(No, I'm not from Wexford)

threeball

Conor Cooney and Jason Flynn better start getting involved here or they'll be getting the curly finger.

breezy1985

threeball wrote: »

You gave an example of a game where KK didn't pull up.
Who knows who they'll put up a lead against. Regardless of who it is they won't lose the lead due to lack of concentration.

You are quite clearly dodging my question.



What is Cody actually going to do to change things ?

All I can see is the usual cliches about "winning mentality" and "crack the whip" kind of stuff which means nothing because if it worked everyone would do it

tipp_tipp_tipp

Wexford are the new arsenal. Their tippy tappy short passing stuff is great when it works, but too often looks like they're overcomplicating things. Galway going well. They've a lot of good players. Serious dark horses this year. Very interesting now to see how Wexford respond.

castletownman

Donohoe gets more stick than any other regular Wexford starter, and I usually think its harsh and he had an excellent club campaign.

But his direct marker has already scored 1-3 from play, so maybe...

PTH2009

Wexford never give up and i wont be surprised to see them get back into this in a big way. Nobody expected Dublin to get back into the game earlier

RMAOK

Jackie Tyrell was 100 % right when he was discussing galway's goal. Mark fanning had no place coming out like that - it left the goal (relatively) exposed for concannon to goal.

The new, younger lads for Galway are doing well. The two mannion's have be anonymous enough tbh.

thelad95

PTH2009 wrote: »

Wexford never give up and i wont be surprised to see them get back into this in a big way. Nobody expected Dublin to get back into the game earlier

I think we're watching a different game to be honest, thought Galway well and truly took control towards the end of the half, Chin largely keeping them in it.

Far from over, it’s no lead in hurling.