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Stephen Donnelly - Minister for Health

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    #122
    StackSteevens
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    Galwayguy35 wrote: »

    Wait until he has to take on the nursing unions over something or other down the road!

    If and when it comes, I'll be backing him 100% - and I can't stand him!


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    #123
    jams100
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    Trust Vinny B to show Stephen for what he is: an opportunist and careerist TD. Wouldn't at all be surprised if he didn't get elected during next election.



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    #124
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,800 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    jams100 wrote: »
    Trust Vinny B to show Stephen for what he is: an opportunist and careerist TD. Wouldn't at all be surprised if he didn't get elected during next election.



    He's actually making Harris look very good right now. And he was a man who caused a govt to collapse.


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    #125
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,800 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Taking the piss out of Donnelly now on de laveline as we speak. .


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    #126
    Hawthorn Tree
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    I am so glad he left the Social Democrats


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    #127
    suicide_circus
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    Fann Linn wrote: »
    Taking the piss out of Donnelly now on de laveline as we speak. .
    so to speak


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    #128
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,800 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Hawthorn Tree wrote: »
    I am so glad he left the Social Democrats


    They dodged a bullet.


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    #129
    blanch152
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    Fann Linn wrote: »
    He's actually making Harris look very good right now. And he was a man who caused a govt to collapse.

    Donnelly is completely out of his depth, but Vincent Browne is a complete gobsh!te. You only get things done by becoming a Minister. Anyone can have a glorious career in the Dail as a sideline hurler, but how many backbenchers or loudmouth opposition spokespersons go down in history for having achieved anything other than whinging?


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    #130
    jams100
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    blanch152 wrote: »
    Donnelly is completely out of his depth, but Vincent Browne is a complete gobsh!te. You only get things done by becoming a Minister. Anyone can have a glorious career in the Dail as a sideline hurler, but how many backbenchers or loudmouth opposition spokespersons go down in history for having achieved anything other than whinging?

    Joe Higgins, Pearse Doherty, Michael Healy Rae? Granted they mightn't be the best examples but the idea that you can only get things done by becoming a minister is BS. David Norris is another one, granted he was/is a senator and not a TD.


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    #131
    tayto lover
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    blanch152 wrote: »
    Donnelly is completely out of his depth, but Vincent Browne is a complete gobsh!te. You only get things done by becoming a Minister. Anyone can have a glorious career in the Dail as a sideline hurler, but how many backbenchers or loudmouth opposition spokespersons go down in history for having achieved anything other than whinging?

    Tony Gregory got a lot of things done in his area.
    Donnelly is a clown though.


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    #132
    donaghs
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    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    Well to be honest considering how many BAME people work in our health service and yet none of them were picked for the role, I do think the old boys club played a sizeable role.

    Anyone who was interested in the role should at least try to get elected as a TD first.


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    #133
    is_that_so
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    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    Well to be honest considering how many BAME people work in our health service and yet none of them were picked for the role, I do think the old boys club played a sizeable role.
    He wanted the job as did Paul Reid as head of the HSE.


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    #134
    is_that_so
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    donaghs wrote: »
    Anyone who was interested in the role should at least try to get elected as a TD first.
    Only the Taoiseach, Tánaiste and Minister for Finance have to be elected TDs.


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    #135
    donaghs
    Registered Users Posts: 2,749 ✭✭✭donaghs


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Only the Taoiseach, Tánaiste and Minister for Finance have to be elected TDs.

    Fair enough. But if you really want the job...


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    #136
    RickDeckard
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    jams100 wrote: »
    Trust Vinny B to show Stephen for what he is: an opportunist and careerist TD. Wouldn't at all be surprised if he didn't get elected during next election.



    God Damn, I miss Vinny B


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    #137
    Jinglejangle69
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    Spoofer.


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    #138
    IAMAMORON
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    When he denies taking the soup on the basis that he did not do it to get a ministerial position you know he is on the high road to success.

    The best politicians are in it for the long hall. My gut says he is a politician.

    Don't laugh if he is running for president in 30 years.

    I have a hunch he could do something right, I am not going for pints with him or anything like it, but I reckon he has a set of cojones and good luck to him.

    The concept that he is some sort of a turncoat is facile, it takes balls to change direction or change things up, too may independents are happy enough to sit and crank, at least he is trying to put himself in a position where he can influence and manoeuvre change, the dude is a politician, let him roll. I would rather a person who is proactive than a crank sitting on a fence.


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    #139
    Jinglejangle69
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    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    When he denies taking the soup on the basis that he did not do it to get a ministerial position you know he is on the high road to success.

    The best politicians are in it for the long hall. My gut says he is a politician.

    Don't laugh if he is running for president in 30 years.

    I have a hunch he could do something right, I am not going for pints with him or anything like it, but I reckon he has a set of cojones and good luck to him.

    The concept that he is some sort of a turncoat is facile, it takes balls to change direction or change things up, too may independents are happy enough to sit and crank, at least he is trying to put himself in a position where he can influence and manoeuvre change, the dude is a politician, let him roll. I would rather a person who is proactive than a crank sitting on a fence.

    Riiiiiight...


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    #140
    [Deleted User]
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    The only one coming across badly in that video is Browne, an ignorant boor.


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    #141
    CrankyHaus
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    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    When he denies taking the soup on the basis that he did not do it to get a ministerial position you know he is on the high road to success.

    The best politicians are in it for the long hall. My gut says he is a politician.

    Don't laugh if he is running for president in 30 years.

    I have a hunch he could do something right, I am not going for pints with him or anything like it, but I reckon he has a set of cojones and good luck to him.

    The concept that he is some sort of a turncoat is facile, it takes balls to change direction or change things up, too may independents are happy enough to sit and crank, at least he is trying to put himself in a position where he can influence and manoeuvre change, the dude is a politician, let him roll. I would rather a person who is proactive than a crank sitting on a fence.

    I was prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt, but his performance as Minister for Health has been abysmal so far.


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    #142
    IAMAMORON
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    CrankyHaus wrote: »
    I was prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt, but his performance as Minister for Health has been abysmal so far.

    Name me one minister for health that ever did a good job of things... just one.

    My point is that he has the balls to change things up and try something. He is not a stooge imo. FFS he only in the job a wet summer and your out with the big adjectives.


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    #143
    Snake Plisken
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    Still better then Harris


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    #144
    walshb
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    CrankyHaus wrote: »
    I was prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt, but his performance as Minister for Health has been abysmal so far.

    What are you expecting from the man in his first couple months in a ridiculously challenging and complex and convoluted portfolio?


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    #145
    CrankyHaus
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    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    Name me one minister for health that ever did a good job of things... just one.

    My point is that he has the balls to change things up and try something. He is not a stooge imo. FFS he only in the job a wet summer and your out with the big adjectives.

    Simon Harris, his immediate predecessor, performed better.
    I agree it's early to tell. And I had high hopes for Donnelly. I'll happily eat my words if he performs better in the long run.
    But a few months of a crisis is like years of normal time for judging performance.
    Since lockdown ended we've been snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and he's been the Minister responsible for a lot of that time.


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    #146
    Wanderer78
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    ****e job, God couldn't even sort it at this stage


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    #147
    IAMAMORON
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    CrankyHaus wrote: »
    Simon Harris, his immediate predecessor, performed better.
    I agree it's early to tell. And I had high hopes for Donnelly. I'll happily eat my words if he performs better in the long run.
    But a few months of a crisis is like years of normal time for judging performance.
    Since lockdown ended we've been snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and he's been the Minister responsible for a lot of that time.

    The health portfolio is a total shambles at the best of times, give him a break. There is a global pandemic on the go, in case you didn't notice.

    At the end of the day his job will be judged on how well his SPAD's and PR team spin things to the media. The HSE and the Dept of Health will still be run as corruptly as ever by a gang of unscrupulous chunts who should be ashamed of themselves.

    It is the pen pushers that are the problem, not any minister given the political "hospital pass" ( pun intended ) that is the department of health.


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    #148
    Muahahaha
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    Anyone see the video of Stephen Donnellys new press officer telling the media that they could not ask hm questions on the golf dinner. Luckily the media just ignored her and went ahead and asked the questions they wanted to.


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    #149
    freshpopcorn
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    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Anyone see the video of Stephen Donnellys new press officer telling the media that they could not ask hm questions on the golf dinner. Luckily the media just ignored her and went ahead and asked the questions they wanted to.

    Yep, it was like he asked his mammy to stand up to the mean people.


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    #150
    Orange Tiny Terror
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    The minister for health is an egg, we should not have eggs in government


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    #151
    [Deleted User]
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    Orange Tiny Terror wrote: »
    The minister for health is an egg, we should not have eggs in government

    #baldlivesmatter


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