Shooting crows & magpies with a rifle

J.R.

Are we allowed shoot greycrows and magpies causing damage with a rifle, under derogation.

The document on derogation, signed annually, states that it is permitted.




However, the NARGC publication states that it is not allowed

https://nargc.ie/predator-control-and-the-law/

"Predator Control And The Law" By Dr. David Scallan

Shooting birds with a rifle

It is illegal under the Wildlife Acts 1976-2012 (i.e. the primary legislation) to shoot any bird with a rifle.


Where do we stand?

meathstevie

The derogation is a variation on the general principles of the Wildlife Act allowing certain practices otherwise not permitted in certain circumstances for a limited amount of time.

It’s a written permission from the Minister and signed by the Minister to do something that’s otherwise not allowed.

The NARGC is right when you talk about hunting.

The derogation does not mention hunting, it specifically deals with shooting and trapping certain species for the purposes of crop and livestock protection, protection of other vulnerable fauna, the prevention of the spread of avian borne diseases and the prevention of aviation accidents.

J.R.

meathstevie wrote: »

The NARGC is right when you talk about hunting.

The derogation does not mention hunting, it specifically deals with shooting and trapping certain species for the purposes of crop and livestock protection, protection of other vulnerable fauna, the prevention of the spread of avian borne diseases and the prevention of aviation accidents.

That's my intrepretation -

so no birds can be shot with a rifle when hunting

but

greycrows and magpies and pigeons can be shot with a rifle when shooting them under the terms of the derogation due to the damage they are causing.

The pigeon man

Yes that's my understanding aswell.

But there doesn't seem to be any exemption in the derogation to shoot with a moderated rifle. So take the mod off and check zero before shooting them, if you have a mod on your rifle.

cookimonster

The pigeon man wrote: »

Yes that's my understanding aswell.

But there doesn't seem to be any exemption in the derogation to shoot with a moderated rifle. So take the mod off and check zero before shooting them, if you have a mod on your rifle.

Don't be over thinking it.... the Wild Life Act prevents us shooting birds with rifles of any sort. The Derogation allows us to shoot them with rifles of any sort under its terms. So a moderated rifle wether it be a .17 air rifle or a 300 Win Mag makes no difference.

Chiparus

The pigeon man wrote: »

Yes that's my understanding aswell.

But there doesn't seem to be any exemption in the derogation to shoot with a moderated rifle. So take the mod off and check zero before shooting them, if you have a mod on your rifle.

What????