BLM, or WLM? [MOD WARNING: FIRST POST]

Broadstone Bob

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=iz2jZ3TQzuk&feature=emb_logo

A 2hr live stream from the night in Kenosha. It gives a good idea of the atmosphere and timeline of events and explains what the militia and locals where doing.
The last ten minutes is when the shooting starts.
Tragic night with no winners. The whole left v right thing needs to be brought under control before it gets worse as most people are in the centre and just want to see people live happy lives.

Broadstone Bob

Broadstone Bob wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=iz2jZ3TQzuk&feature=emb_logo

A 2hr live stream from the night in Kenosha. It gives a good idea of the atmosphere and timeline of events and explains what the militia and locals where doing.
The last ten minutes is when the shooting starts.
Tragic night with no winners. The whole left v right thing needs to be brought under control before it gets worse as most people are in the centre and just want to see people live happy lives.

Trying to find out what cell Rittenhouse in is. FFS.

https://twitter.com/QuarantinedCoof/status/1299588312643108864?s=20

antix80

Shocking case of policy brutality #ICantBreath

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZkhYuYF5-o

Look there's a way to behave around police. This isn't it. I, a white person with white privilege, got pulled over maybe 3 times by police. Follow instructions, be polite, don't "act a fool" you won't incur police brutality.

I forget which commentator or comedian said this but he compared the OTT way some black men act around police to behavior learned from being raised by single mothers being nabbed by security while shoplifting. They make a scene. Then years later their sons get pulled over and instead of saying "you got me, i have a warrant for my arrest and i have drugs in my pocket" , they start screaming and making a scene (i can't breath is a favourite.. George floyd said it before the cop knelt on his neck)
Behaviour can be unpredictable like trying to drive off, try to wrestle cops, try to disarm cops... It doesn't end well.

Broadstone Bob

antix80 wrote: »

Shocking case of policy brutality #ICantBreath

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZkhYuYF5-o

Look there's a way to behave around police. This isn't it. I, a white person with white privilege, got pulled over maybe 3 times by police. Follow instructions, be polite, don't "act a fool" you won't incur police brutality.

I forget which commentator or comedian said this but he compared the OTT way some black men act around police to behavior learned from being raised by single mothers being nabbed by security while shoplifting. They make a scene. Then years later their sons get pulled over and instead of saying "you got me, i have a warrant for my arrest and i have drugs in my pocket" , they start screaming and making a scene (i can't breath is a favourite.. George floyd said it before the cop knelt on his neck)
Behaviour can be unpredictable like trying to drive off, try to wrestle cops, try to disarm cops... It doesn't end well.

Lol from National geographic “I wanted to be where Martin Luther King marched,” says Xavier Warner, who traveled from Portland, Oregon."
People on twitter have been quick to point out that Xavier was recently caught on video taking part in the beating and robbery of a trans woman during protests in Portland Oregon

https://twitter.com/NatGeo/status/1299421905171120132?s=20

Tipperary animal lover

Such tolerance from BLM crowd yesterday it was verbally attack gay peolpe now an Asian been racially abused ... but but but black people can't be racist .... get the fecking out of here https://twitter.com/i/status/1299392301018435585

weldoninhio

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It's clear as day he murdered two people and attempted to murder another individual.

Attempted to murder another?? He shot him in the arm and he backed off a couple of feet. He could have easily finished him off and the 4th guy who he aimed at, but who backed off and was no longer a threat. If he wanted pistol medic dead, pistol medic would be dead.

weldoninhio

Tell me how wrote: »

If there were more people like him, black people would probably still be seen as lesser people in the eyes of the law, if not outright slaves.

I haven’t seen a solitary piece of evidence that the kid involved was in any way, shape or form racist. I’m sure if there was any the loony left/BLM supporters in here would be all over it.

weldoninhio

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Here you go

He’s holding the gun, pointing downwards, as your supposed to. Finger straight, not on trigger. That’s literally how you hold a gun, nothing suggesting he was ‘waving it around’

silverharp

meanwhile in clownworld

https://twitter.com/Styx666Official/status/1299606345944047617

weldoninhio

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Oh goody. My specialist area. He obviously had a drug problem. You can build up a tolerance to fentanyl. What would be fatal for an opioid native person might only give a mild high to an addict?

But here we are back to victim blaming. So what if he was a substance misuser? Drug addiction is a social/health issue rather than a criminal one. But instead, it was his drug use that had a police officer hold him by the neck for nearly 9 mins. Sure, George Floyd must be in the wrong because he had an addiction problem. Glad to see you get giddy over somebody's substance abuse issues.

“The autopsy revealed no physical evidence suggesting that Mr. Floyd died of asphyxiation.”

biko

Kyle Rittenhouse is a community lifeguard who was working in Kenosha the day of the shooting.

Additionally, the weapon Rittenhouse was using to protect himself and others never crossed state lines.

If this can all be verified the it blows a lot of assumptions made right out of the water.
Several big journalists have claimed he went to Kenosha in order to find violence.
If he and the gun was already there they have exposed their papers for lawsuits.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/kyle-rittenhouse-working-lifeguard-kenosha-day-shooting-went-clean-vandalism-school-work/


Edit - beaten to it by Broadstone Bob above

weldoninhio

Tell me how wrote: »

Not when compared to the 19,990,000 who protested and weren't arrested.

Another way of putting it, for every person who was arrested, there were 2000 who weren't. So at a ratio of 2000:1 non-violent versus violent, do you think that that suggests the movement is by and large violent? It patently doesn't.

That’s extremely efficient of the US police to arrest every single person who broke the law on BLM looting trips. Why are people protesting such an excellent, efficient, flawless force??

weldoninhio

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It's pretty obvious hen somebody is overdosing from opioids. Restricting their airway is thee last thing you want to do. I like how you can have a laugh about a black man asphyxiating.

“The autopsy revealed no physical evidence suggesting that Mr. Floyd died of asphyxiation.”

weldoninhio

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Your sleuthing skills know no bounds Columbo. Passing by and you counted 30 and knew 27 of them were female and all of them were under the age of 22. Maybe you should work for law enforcement.....

He said about 30, and if there were 3 guys that would leave how many girls? Hardly need to be Clouseau to subtract 3 from 30. Maths not a strong point?

Broadstone Bob

biko wrote: »

If this can all be verified the it blows a lot of assumptions made right out of the water.
Several big journalists have claimed he went to Kenosha in order to find violence.
If he and the gun was already there they have exposed their papers for lawsuits.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/kyle-rittenhouse-working-lifeguard-kenosha-day-shooting-went-clean-vandalism-school-work/

Full statement is here and IMO everything that is said in the statement can be backed up with video evidence.

https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=61686

antix80

antix80 wrote: »

Shocking case of policy brutality #ICantBreath

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZkhYuYF5-o

Look there's a way to behave around police. This isn't it. I, a white person with white privilege, got pulled over maybe 3 times by police. Follow instructions, be polite, don't "act a fool" you won't incur police brutality.

I forget which commentator or comedian said this but he compared the OTT way some black men act around police to behavior learned from being raised by single mothers being nabbed by security while shoplifting. They make a scene. Then years later their sons get pulled over and instead of saying "you got me, i have a warrant for my arrest and i have drugs in my pocket" , they start screaming and making a scene (i can't breath is a favourite.. George floyd said it before the cop knelt on his neck)
Behaviour can be unpredictable like trying to drive off, try to wrestle cops, try to disarm cops... It doesn't end well.

Wow. A lot of racism in that post. Sounds more like the inner works of your mind rather than comedian as it's not funny. Do you know Irish people are alcoholics because they got raped by priests? That's the standard of your argument.

weldoninhio

weldoninhio wrote: »

“The autopsy revealed no physical evidence suggesting that Mr. Floyd died of asphyxiation.”

Asphyxiation often has no physical signs. The autopsy you talk of has been politicised by lawyers representing the police.

Like I'm going to explain it really slowly. He had a knee on the neck of a person that apparently had toxic levels of fentanyl in his blood. Why wasn't he cuffed? Why would somebody keep their knee on a person's neck as they say they can't breathe? The fentanyl levels are a misnomer thrown into the argument to muddy the waters. I worked in acute med for a number of years and have seen countless overdoses ranging from fentanyl to beta blockers to second generation antipsychotics. We would never restrict a person airway whilst restraining them. We use a technique called TMVA. I assume the police in the US use similar. I don't blame you for your lack of education around the pharmacology/physiology but maybe you need to keep more of an open mind, champ.

antix80

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Wow. A lot of racism in that post. Sounds more like the inner works of your mind rather than comedian as it's not funny. Do you know Irish people are alcoholics because they got raped by priests? That's the standard of your argument.

I think the person who made the observation was black. Unfortunately i can't find the video..

We all know the irish are alcoholics because of the brits... 800 years etc.. It's the church's fault for people living in poverty because they banned contraception so people have unwanted babies

antix80

antix80 wrote: »

I think the person who made the observation was black. Unfortunately i can't find the video..

We all know the irish are alcoholics because of the brits... 800 years etc.. It's the church's fault for people living in poverty because they banned contraception so people have unwanted babies

I await this video. I'm sure it's very funny. Inkling that it might not exist though.

antix80

Deleted User wrote: »

Why would somebody keep their knee on a person's neck as they say they can't breathe?

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. I don't blame you for your lack of education around the pharmacology/physiology but maybe you need to keep more of an open mind, champ.

Floyd said he couldn't breathe before the cop knelt on his neck. The cop likely assumed he was lying.

Also it appears the cop didn't mean to asphyxiate floyd - while restricted airflow contributed to death, it seems the cop inadvertently cut off the blood flow to Floyd's brain. So, bad training and lack of medical expertise on the cop's part, and a drugged-up guy who escalated the situation to that point in the first place. Very unfortunate all round.

antix80

Deleted User wrote: »

I await this video. I'm sure it's very funny. Inkling that it might not exist though.

It was either a podcast or something i saw on YouTube. If you disagree with the point, that's your opinion. Personally i think it carries truth regardless of who said it.

antix80

antix80 wrote: »

Floyd said he couldn't breathe before the cop knelt on his neck. The cop likely assumed he was lying.

Also it appears the cop didn't mean to asphyxiate floyd - while restricted airflow contributed to death, it seems the cop inadvertently cut off the blood flow to Floyd's brain. So, bad training and lack of medical expertise on the cop's part, and a drugged-up guy who escalated the situation to that point in the first place. Very unfortunate all round.

Why not cuff him rather than put a knee on his neck for nearly 9 minutes? There are restraints that can be used on patients for rapid tranq that could easily be done by 4 people. In a hospitals setting, we don't have the luxury of using handcuffs. Also, I don't understand why you feel GF death was justified just for his substance abuse. This is classical victim blaming, similar to the old cultural victim blaming many people in Ireland have regarding rape.

Gerry Hatrick

Deleted User wrote: »

If the cops hadn't shot JB 7 times in the back. None of this would have happened.

If JB had of killed the cop you wouldn't have heard from you or the BLM maggots.

gozunda

Overheal wrote: »

Then you didn't get what I was saying at all: which was understanding how the incident occurred, not condoning it.

If the discussion was of army forces having a FF incident we would discuss how it happened and nobody would be getting accused of celebrating or supporting the fact that it happened.

"Friendly fire" Are you for real? Those kids were deliberately targeted by thugs throwing projectiles. But perhaps you should try and explain that excuse to the people (of all races)who have been attacked and had their neighbourhoods and business looted and destroyed.

Tbh at best such comments are coming across as crass apoligism for criminal activity.

Let me ask you as I asked another poster - how would you feel when a mob rocks up to your door and attacks you or you family or loots your business. You go to stand at the side and cheer them as well?

Gerry Hatrick

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

If JB had of killed the cop you wouldn't have heard from you or the BLM maggots.

Was JB going to kill the cops? That seems to be veering into fantast territory there.

gozunda

gozunda wrote: »

"Friendly fire" Are you for real? Those kids were deliberately targeted by thugs throwing projectiles. But perhaps you should try and explain that excuse to the people (of all races)who have been attacked and had their neighbourhoods and business looted and destroyed.

Tbh at best such comments are coming across as crass apoligism for criminal activity.

Let me ask you as I asked another poster - how would you feel when a mob rocks up to your door and attacks you or you family or loots your business. You go to stand at the side and cheer them as well?

I didn't realise that Ritttenhouse was defending his own property.

TomTomTim

gozunda wrote: »

Let me ask you as I asked another poster - how would you feel when a mob rocks up to your door and attacks you or you family or loots your business. You go to stand at the side and cheer them as well?

We already have an example of just this with the Mayor of Seattle. They didn't care, and even supported the movement till it arrived on her doorstep. She very quickly changed her tune once that happened. These types are highly narcissistic, and don't give a damn about the affects of such actions until it is literally on their doorstep. They are quiet frankly bad people.

biko

TomTomTim wrote: »

They didn't care, and even supported the movement till it arrived on her doorstep.

This is a case in point


https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/espn-nba-reporter-tweets-george-floyd-protests/1eefhr1gpdx791oxlllizoun9i

gozunda

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I didn't realise that Ritttenhouse was defending his own property.

Wow thats some top level whataboutism right there!

Were you talking about "Rittenhouse" in your comment I quoted- where you defended criminal activity as "Friendly fire"!
Nope - you were not.

So please be good enough to try and stick to your own content and the reply. Thanks.

So how would you feel when a mob rocks up to your door and attacks you or you family or loots or burns your business. You go to stand at the side and cheer them as well?

gozunda

gozunda wrote: »

Wow thats some top level whataboutism right there!

Were you talking about "Rittenhouse" in your comment I quoted- where you defended criminal activity as "Friendly fire"!
Nope - you were not.

So please be good enough to try and stick to your own content and tge reply. Thanks.

So how would you feel when a mob rocks up to your door and attacks you or you family or loots your business. You go to stand at the side and cheer them as well?

Well I live in a liberal open democracy in Ireland so I expect with have strong societal infrastructure structure so that it's unlikely thst a mob is going to come to my house and burn it. The issue here is systemic racism, this needs to be dealt with. People are protesting as they are angry and frustrated.