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BLM, or WLM? [MOD WARNING: FIRST POST]

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    #3992
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    Deleted User wrote: »
    ****ing hell, Jeff. Denying somebody is black because of how much they earn......

    Again daz you either didn't bother to read it or are choosing to ignore what I wrote .

    not a great tactic when trying to debate . you come across as some one who is just here for a argument and doesn't under stand what's being discussed


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    #3993
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭ [Deleted User]


    mynamejeff wrote: »
    Like the wealthy black nba players who identified as black until they realised how much it would cost them

    Just clarify what you meant here. Denying somebody's skin colour based on how much they earn?

    I'm genuinely intrigued as to what you meant here. How did they become non African American based on how much they earned? By your reckoning, race is a choice.


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    #3994
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭ [Deleted User]


    gozunda wrote: »
    Nope. Thems your words. Not mine. Didn't read what was written or just didn't understand it no?



    I'll now leave you at your bull****e and attacking posters. Bye.

    So you still think somebody's skin colour qualifies their professional opinion?


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    #3995
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Just clarify what you meant here. Denying somebody's skin colour based on how much they earn?

    I'm genuinely intrigued as to what you meant here. How did they become non African American based on how much they earned? By your reckoning, race is a choice.

    ok daz ill spell it out for you because you are being really petty although its fairly clear to every one else

    Im suggesting that when these wealthy Black NBA players suddenly realised that taking the socially active step of going on strike would cost them a lot of money . and that they choose to be rich rather than black for a while at least .

    It was their choice no one denied them anything apart from themselves.

    understand now ? good lad


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    #3996
    [Deleted User]
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    So you still think somebody's skin colour qualifies their professional opinion?

    Sounds to me like you're trying to discount his opinion because he's black..


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    #3997
    Broadstone Bob
    Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭Broadstone Bob


    Deleted User wrote: »
    It actually makes me sad that in a country like Ireland after all the progress we have made. People would still be basing validity of opinions on somebody's skin colour.

    ROFL at the virtue signalling


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    #3998
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Sounds to me like you're trying to discount his opinion because he's black..

    I judge people on their expertise rather than what colour their skin is. When discussing a consult from dermatology, I don't reference their race. Just their credentials.


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    #3999
    [Deleted User]
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I judge people on their expertise rather than what colour their skin is. When discussing a consult from dermatology, I don't reference their race. Just their credentials.

    Racist..


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    #4000
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Racist..

    How so?


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    #4001
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭ [Deleted User]


    mynamejeff wrote: »
    ok daz ill spell it out for you because you are being really petty although its fairly clear to every one else

    Im suggesting that when these wealthy Black NBA players suddenly realised that taking the socially active step of going on strike would cost them a lot of money . and that they choose to be rich rather than black for a while at least .

    It was their choice no one denied them anything apart from themselves.

    understand now ? good lad

    That isn't what you said. You said "
    Like the wealthy black nba players who identified as black until they realised how much it would cost them".

    I really am genuinely hoping I misunderstood your comment. Because otherwise it's rather repugnant.


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    #4002
    nullzero
    Registered Users Posts: 17,064 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    The notion that an African American man could simultaneously, be pro Second ammendment, and not influenced to fall in line with the BLM narrative AND be a qualified lawyer is hurting the heads of some posters.

    If this demonstrates anything, it is that your skin colour really isn't important at all, and that a person can CHOOSE to adopt whatever world view they feel best suits them with no emphasis on skin colour or the all pervasive notion that all people who look a certain way should think a certain way, this is the worst nightmare of a "movement" like BLM.

    Glazers Out!



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    #4003
    [Deleted User]
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    Overheal wrote: »
    Still not understanding why it’s important to mention he’s African American. What does it lend to the point you are making? Rather it seems to have undermined and distracted from it.

    A couple of pages ago, you went out of your way to reference that the guy who got shot by the police was black. You were asked why you did it, you said it was just a fact.

    Stop it


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    #4004
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,413 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    A couple of pages ago, you went out of your way to reference that the guy who got shot by the police was black. You were asked why you did it, you said it was just a fact.

    Stop it

    His being black is a factor in how he was treated by police.

    Being black has no bearing on whether or not your opinion on the law is a correct one.


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    #4005
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Overheal wrote: »
    His being black is a factor in how he was treated by police.

    Being black has no bearing on whether or not your opinion on the law is a correct one.

    Are you having trouble accepting that a black man could be a lawyer?..


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    #4006
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    Deleted User wrote: »
    That isn't what you said. You said "
    Like the wealthy black nba players who identified as black until they realised how much it would cost them".

    I really am genuinely hoping I misunderstood your comment. Because otherwise it's rather repugnant.

    It is repugnant but it is also true , so put your race card away

    don't try to label me because I had to explain the actions of another group of people to you. other posters were able to understand it easily enough


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    #4007
    nullzero
    Registered Users Posts: 17,064 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    That isn't what you said. You said "
    Like the wealthy black nba players who identified as black until they realised how much it would cost them".

    That is repugnant.

    That's not a true reflection of what that poster said. They said that the NBA players in question "chose to be rich rather than black for a while at least". The take away from that is that their skin colour really isn't important and the need to prostrate themselves for the sake of a movement like BLM isn't as important as their ability to earn ludicrous amounts of money as professional athletes.

    You quoted the person's post and then misquoted them yourself in the same post. You in effect refuted your own central point.

    Glazers Out!



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    #4008
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users Posts: 6,505 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    nullzero wrote: »
    The notion that an African American man could simultaneously, be pro Second ammendment, and not influenced to fall in line with the BLM narrative AND be a qualified lawyer is hurting the heads of some posters.

    If this demonstrates anything, it is that your skin colour really isn't important at all, and that a person can CHOOSE to adopt whatever world view they feel best suits them with no emphasis on skin colour or the all pervasive notion that all people who look a certain way should think a certain way, this is the worst nightmare of a "movement" like BLM.

    I suspect that at least twice the amount of Blacks will vote Republican in November than in 2016...could be higher, these will be highly motivated to vote with enthusiasm, wouldn't it be something if it took the BLM movement and the actions of the extreme elements of it's supporters and the politicians who believe the black community want to defund the police in the middle of a surging crime wave to finally break the iron grip the Democrats have enjoyed on the Black vote.

    Who know's, the US might be heading to a place where your skin colour doesn't define who you vote for, surely a positive thing!!!


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    #4009
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭ [Deleted User]


    nullzero wrote: »
    That's not a true reflection of what that poster said. They said that the NBA players in question "chose to be rich rather than black for a while at least". The take away from that is that their skin colour really isn't important and the need to prostrate themselves for the sake of a movement like BLM isn't as important as their ability to earn ludicrous amounts of money as professional athletes.

    You quoted the person's post and then misquoted them yourself in the same post. You in effect refuted your own central point.
    You put it in quotation marks but he didn't say that in the post. At least I actually quoted from the original post.

    This is the original post " ould Obama have been elected if he was white ?

    profession is one thing identity is another. How some one identifies is much more important . Like the wealthy black nba players who identified as black until they realised how much it would cost them

    how do you think the many many non white police feel being labelled and targeted for attack as racist facists by blm"

    Like I said, repugnant. But I'm sure his supporters will be along to explain his comments away.


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    #4010
    nullzero
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    Silentcorner wrote: »
    I suspect that at least twice the amount of Blacks will vote Republican in November than in 2016...could be higher, these will be highly motivated to vote with enthusiasm, wouldn't it be something if it took the BLM movement and the actions of the extreme elements of it's supporters and the politicians who believe the black community want to defund the police in the middle of a surging crime wave to finally break the iron grip the Democrats have enjoyed on the Black vote.

    Who know's, the US might be heading to a place where your skin colour doesn't define who you vote for, surely a positive thing!!!

    We may well be surprised by the numbers of African American Republican votes.
    All of which will be labeled as "Uncle Tom's" no doubt.

    The bizarre thing about white American is that on the extreme right there are groups who define African Americans (and others) based on their skin colour and on the extreme left wing you have white people defining African Americans by their skin colour. It is mind boggling.

    Glazers Out!



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    #4011
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users Posts: 6,505 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    nullzero wrote: »
    We may well be surprised by the numbers of African American Republican votes.
    All of which will be labeled as "Uncle Tom's" no doubt.

    The bizarre thing about white American is that on the extreme right there are groups who define African Americans (and others) based on their skin colour and on the extreme left wing you have white people defining African Americans by their skin colour. It is mind boggling.

    It is nuts...

    These two explain it better than I could...



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    #4012
    [Deleted User]
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    Overheal wrote: »
    His being black is a factor in how he was treated by police.

    Being black has no bearing on whether or not your opinion on the law is a correct one.

    Being white means that someone is allowed to suppose what privilege you possess?

    Do you believe that to be true?

    Do you believe white people have a privilege?


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    #4013
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    Deleted User wrote: »
    You put it in quotation marks but he didn't say that in the post. At least I actually quoted from the original post.

    This is the original post " ould Obama have been elected if he was white ?

    profession is one thing identity is another. How some one identifies is much more important . Like the wealthy black nba players who identified as black until they realised how much it would cost them

    how do you think the many many non white police feel being labelled and targeted for attack as racist facists by blm"

    Like I said, repugnant. But I'm sure his supporters will be along to explain his comments away.


    there is nothing to explain away , are you offended by something , what in particular ?

    you didn't answer any of the questions btw daz


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    #4014
    nullzero
    Registered Users Posts: 17,064 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    You put it in quotation marks but he didn't say that in the post. At least I actually quoted from the original post.

    This is the original post " ould Obama have been elected if he was white ?

    profession is one thing identity is another. How some one identifies is much more important . Like the wealthy black nba players who identified as black until they realised how much it would cost them

    how do you think the many many non white police feel being labelled and targeted for attack as racist facists by blm"

    Like I said, repugnant. But I'm sure his supporters will be along to explain his comments away.

    Was that post deleted? I can't find it in their history.

    Glazers Out!



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    #4015
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭ [Deleted User]


    nullzero wrote: »
    Was that post deleted? I can't find it in their history.

    #3981

    Think boards is slow to update sometimes.


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    #4016
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭ [Deleted User]


    gozunda wrote: »
    Yes you have Dazzler. And it's not a nice thing for someone who claims to be a blm supporter.



    Rflol. Id rather not Dazzler .....

    Still awaiting this exposé


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    #4017
    Carfacemandog
    Registered Users Posts: 2,042 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    Kenosha police, who first thanked and later failed to arrest Kyle Rittenhouse as he stood before them with his assault rifle slung over his shoulder which he had just used to shoot three people, killing two, have arrested people sending foox to protesters.

    They claim the people had fireworks (which the defendants deny) and were filling canisters with fuel (which the defendants say was for fuelling generators for cooking etc) - either side could be telling the truth in those instances, so there's not much to be drawn from it. But in a real eyebrow raiser, the police also claim the defendants had "shields" with them. These "shields" they were referring to, turned out to be facemasks.

    So, underage kid illegally carrying a gun they don't even own downtown is ok and he even gets thanked for it, while a facemask in a crowded public area is a potential weapon to be used for combat.

    It's almost as if they are applying the laws differently, depending on the political leanings of the people in question.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kenosha-police-arrest-volunteers-who-provide-food-protesters-n1238799


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    #4018
    nullzero
    Registered Users Posts: 17,064 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    #3981

    Think boards is slow to update sometimes.

    Thanks.

    Nothing repugnant in there.

    Glazers Out!



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    #4019
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,413 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Are you having trouble accepting that a black man could be a lawyer?..

    HUH?

    Of course an African American can be a lawyer I’m still unclear why it needs to be mentioned though as part of a list of reasons arguing why his opinion should be endorsed!


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    #4020
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,413 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Being white means that someone is allowed to suppose what privilege you possess?

    Do you believe that to be true?

    Do you believe white people have a privilege?

    Yes, I have white privileges.


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    #4021
    BattleCorp
    Registered Users Posts: 11,789 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Carfacemandog wrote: »
    So, underage kid illegally carrying a gun they don't even own downtown is ok and he even gets thanked for it,

    We don't know 100% if he was carrying the gun illegally. I thought he was but Manic Moran posted links to legislation that may give rise to circumstances where he was legally in possession of the rifle.


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