BLM, or WLM? [MOD WARNING: FIRST POST]

Overheal

BloodBath wrote: »

How in god's name can you keep calling them "peaceful protesters"?

Because that’s whom he’s referring to. Trump doesn’t really have much distinction between a protester a rioter or a looter he wants dogs and gas used on all of them really.

Overheal

BloodBath wrote: »

The leaders of these groups are calling themselves anarchists and trained marxists and are encouraging rioting, looting and burning as part of reparations.

They have cost billions in damages already, destroying their own neighborhoods, and murdering and maiming as they go.

There's nothing peaceful about them.

Their swarm of zombie supporters are mainly dumb ass white kids.

So the journalist from Australia that was in Lafayette Square who got beat up with the riot shield he was a jackboot first the Marxist’s? Please.

Overheal

AbusesToilets wrote: »

Have the peaceful protesters managed to curtail actions of the minority yet? I'm sure you're ideas will have the same efficacy that peaceful Muslims do when they condemn the extremists who attack their communities.

Your empty words would be of great comfort to the people who've lost the businesses and life's work to date.

That’s a closed ended question as you could as easily go furiously google the answer, which is yes you will find evidence of protesters preventing others from looting and singling out those around them who are up to no good, like umbrella man.

Carfacemandog

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

Sick. Good luck seeing that on CNN, RTE, BBC etc...

Trump needs to step up and take control of this mess.

CNN - https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/30/us/portland-protest-fatal-shooting/index.html

RTE - https://www.rte.ie/news/us/2020/0830/1162125-trump-kenosha-visit/

BBC - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53963625

AbusesToilets

Overheal wrote: »

That’s a closed ended question as you could as easily go furiously google the answer, which is yes you will find evidence of protesters preventing others from looting and singling out those around them who are up to no good, like umbrella man.

As evidenced by the millions of dollars of damage done, and years of future economic depression. Certainly less important than nebulous claims of police brutality

Overheal

AbusesToilets wrote: »

As evidenced by the millions of dollars of damage done, and years of future economic depression. Certainly less important than nebulous claims of police brutality

You asked if it had been curtailed, not utterly prevented.

Foxtrol

BattleCorp wrote: »

Yes, that's exactly what I will call it - whataboutism.

You are trying to distract from the events in the KR shooting.

I clearly said that after we posted back and forth, round and round in circles for a day or so I said we might as well agree to disagree.

I then pivoted to check if you'd hold your consistency and you failed.

Was KR being chased - Your answer.........yes, but the van.
Did KR have something thrown at him - Your answer.......yes, but the van.

Did the people in the van shoot anybody? No. So it's not the same scenario.

My point is that by your own questions the situation for the people that were in the van was worse and yet they didn't get trigger happy.

KR went looking for trouble and got it. He may get off due to the ridiculousness of US laws but this feigning that he had no other option is nonsense.

And talk about flip-flopping. Here again is your quote from post #3858 where you agreed me that the level of reasonable force I was calling for in the van situation.

So, are we both trigger happy?

That is where you called for restraint from the people in the van until someone broke in, which is your elevated ask of them when compared to what you believe KR had a right to do.

The people in the van didn't shoot at and kill those attacking them and they survived. I wish KR showed the same restraint.

AbusesToilets

Overheal wrote: »

You asked if it was curtailed, not if it had been utterly prevented.

What basis would say it's been curtailed? The riots in Kenosha this past week, the ones in Portland?

Overheal

AbusesToilets wrote: »

What basis would say it's been curtailed? The riots in Kenosha this past week, the ones in Portland?

I already told you in the post you were quoting. You’ve surely seen evidence of BLM protesters condemning and intervening in rioting and protesting, as there have been examples of it pretty much from the start of the george Floyd protests, like this:

https://www.kxly.com/video-shows-blm-protesters-blocking-looters/

Foxtrol

AbusesToilets wrote: »

As evidenced by the millions of dollars of damage done, and years of future economic depression. Certainly less important than nebulous claims of police brutality

I don't think even Trump or his cronies has taking this ridiculous leap that the protests are going to cause 'years of future economic depression'.

'It wasn't the inept mishandling of an epidemic which record unemployment increases that caused the depression, it was the couple of smashed windows and burnt out building...' Utter nonsense.

Aside from that, your claim that property is more important than human life is pretty vile, though unsurprising.

Feisar

Foxtrol wrote: »

I clearly said that after we posted back and forth, round and round in circles for a day or so I said we might as well agree to disagree.

I then pivoted to check if you'd hold your consistency and you failed.



My point is that by your own questions the situation for the people that were in the van was worse and yet they didn't get trigger happy.

KR went looking for trouble and got it. He may get off due to the ridiculousness of US laws but this feigning that he had no other option is nonsense.



That is where you called for restraint from the people in the van until someone broke in, which is your elevated ask of them when compared to what you believe KR had a right to do.

The people in the van didn't shoot at and kill those attacking them and they survived. I wish KR showed the same restraint.

I agree with you KR went looking for trouble and got it. No doubt he should do time for rocking up to a heated situation with a gun. That's just IMHO, not arguing about what laws he's broken or his right in a free country to be where he was. What did the dumb ass think was going to happen?

However and it's a strong however, given that he had a pew pew stick why would he take any chance in whether or not he'd be OK?

Foxtrol

Overheal wrote: »

That’s a closed ended question as you could as easily go furiously google the answer, which is yes you will find evidence of protesters preventing others from looting and singling out those around them who are up to no good, like umbrella man.

Once again they expect protesters to police criminals because the police are incompetent at their jobs.

The police can't even police their own 'bad apples', they don't bother trying. They lie, lie, and lie again to defend the bad apples from being held to account and then fight any changes to rules that would assist it.

Too Tough To Die

Apologies if this has already been posted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75uwKcD3dv4

Biker79

Tell me how wrote: »

How the fcuk would you expect someone born and raised in Ireland to answer where are they 'really' from?

The fact that you don't see how this is an example of prejudice is very telling. Like Ireland only belongs to people who look a certain way.

What then about the irish descendants in countries worldwide, are they not American, Australian, British, or wherever because their parents were born in Ireland.

There is no reasoning with people like you. You're equating youthful folly with something serious, in order to continue a false narrative.

Thankfully, despite how it appears in the media, mindless lefties like you are actually in a minority. Shame for the Democrats they got into bed with you.

BloodBath

Too Tough To Die wrote: »

Apologies if this has already been posted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75uwKcD3dv4

Outstanding citizens. Nothing to see here folks. Just a bunch of peaceful protesters.

Set a mans business on fire, loot it, then sucker punch him and knock him out as he tries to put out the fire. Send in the tanks.

LessOutragePlz

Too Tough To Die wrote: »

Apologies if this has already been posted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75uwKcD3dv4

What a lovely bunch of peaceful protesters.

BattleCorp

Foxtrol wrote: »

I clearly said that after we posted back and forth, round and round in circles for a day or so I said we might as well agree to disagree.

I think we best leave it so. Time will tell which side this coin will fall on.

BattleCorp

Too Tough To Die wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75uwKcD3dv4

A peaceful protest everyone. They are protesting the sh1t out of that one.

BattleCorp

Too Tough To Die wrote: »

Apologies if this has already been posted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75uwKcD3dv4

This is what is turning reasonable people against BLM.

ExMachina1000

Barack Obumba wrote: »

BAM: black anarchists matter

Trump's gonnna win.

Hopefully so

The endless rioting might just get him over the line. Normal working Americans must be sick of it

Tipperary animal lover

Overheal wrote: »

This is Stormfront logic, sorry. Talk like this was very popular before the savage murder of Heather Heyer.

Driving is a privilege, not a right. You don't have the privilege to run anybody over for blocking a roadway.

Driving might be a privilege where your from, but here its a necessity( if you live outside the cities), you don't have the privilege to stand out in the middle of the road and block traffic, any person with a bit of cop on knows to stay out of the road, see thats whats missing here with the BLM crowd a bit of cop on , were right your wrong .... smh privilege your full of hot air overheal,

Foxtrol

Feisar wrote: »

I agree with you KR went looking for trouble and got it. No doubt he should do time for rocking up to a heated situation with a gun. That's just IMHO, not arguing about what laws he's broken or his right in a free country to be where he was. What did the dumb ass think was going to happen?

However and it's a strong however, given that he had a pew pew stick why would he take any chance in whether or not he'd be OK?

I agree, in both the KR and Portland situation it appears everyone got the trouble they went looking for. People need to have some cop on when it is comes to escalating situations and it isn't helped by Trump being the chief escalator

Broadstone Bob

Too Tough To Die wrote: »

Apologies if this has already been posted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75uwKcD3dv4

SMFH when 3 minutes in and the elderly man is out cold and some girl is saying "we are trying to protect ourselves, you don't understand what terrifies these black men out here, they not making it home to their families". Cowards just sucker punched an OAP.

Then at 5 minutes the guy saying people have their lives in these business' and the girl is yelling "so what, we paid for that" - that is a direct result of the Chicago BLM leader saying looting is reparations and should continue.

As soon as these (useful) idiots are no longer needed by both political parties they will get a serious dose of reality.

Foxtrol

Tipperary animal lover wrote: »

Driving might be a privilege where your from, but here its a necessity( if you live outside the cities), you don't have the privilege to stand out in the middle of the road and block traffic, any person with a bit of cop on knows to stay out of the road, see thats whats missing here with the BLM crowd a bit of cop on , were right your wrong .... smh privilege your full of hot air overheal,

It is clear from the video the light was red for the car.

Foxtrol

I knew they reminded me of something

https://twitter.com/ZackBornstein/status/1300145919996780544?s=20

Foxtrol

Plenty of evidence of peaceful protesters in Kenosha during the organized events, far more than the criminals that have come out after dark.

https://twitter.com/NicholsUprising/status/1299803029491900416?s=20

Tipperary animal lover

Foxtrol wrote: »

It is clear from the video the light was red for the car.

So your telling me they would've got off the road when the lights changed? Come on now really really foxtrol , do you agree that driving is a privilege? Really foxtrol, like so many clips online BLM crowd love to block roads and not let traffic by, but oh no one clip of a red light and hey presto their in the right, i just can't believe you can't see no wrong in them, every excuse you can find to change the narrative. Smh

Tipperary animal lover

Foxtrol wrote: »

It is clear from the video the light was red for the car.

So your telling me they would've got off the road when the lights changed? Come on now really really foxtrol , do you agree that driving is a privilege? Really foxtrol, like so many clips online BLM crowd love to block roads and not let traffic by, but oh no one clip of a red light and hey presto their in the right, i just can't believe you can't see no wrong in them, every excuse you can find to change the narrative. Smh

LessOutragePlz

Barack Obumba wrote: »

They beat the white privilege out of his brains.

You can guarantee that Trump will be using some of that footage in his campaign adds and rightly so.
Americans need to see these that a good chunk of the protesters are violent thugs with no regard for the law and the mob will attack anyone that is brave enough to stand up to them.

Overheal

BloodBath wrote: »

Send in the tanks.

Being a bit dramatic there, Tacticool avatar guy.