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1800_Ladladlad

The antifa clown that murdered the trump supporter in cold blood brought his 11-year-old daughter to the protest the night before. Yep. People should only be allowed to have kids with an IQ in the triple digits.

https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/08/man-under-investigation-in-fatal-shooting-of-right-wing-demonstrator-in-portland-was-outside-mayors-condo-night-before-with-daughter.html

1800_Ladladlad

There an awfull lot of racial attacks on white people lately and they aren't exactly hiding it either. If funny how "hate crime" hoaxes get all the coverage & trend on twitter but these racially motivated attacks... not so much. A white man shoots a black person and it’s headline news globally and immediately ASSUMED to be racism. A black man stabs a white man and admits its racism - and it’s largely ignored by the media.

This gobbsh*te stabbed a man, totally unprovoked, and said He ‘Felt The Need To Find A White Male To Kill’ after watching cop videos.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8677723/amp/Black-man-stabbed-AutoZone-employee-felt-need-white-male-kill.html#click=https://t.co/zPVVC8HeE0


Black Knives matter

brentanrodgers

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

The antifa clown that murdered the trump supporter in cold blood brought his 11-year-old daughter to the protest the night before. Yep. People should only be allowed to have kids with an IQ in the triple digits.

https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/08/man-under-investigation-in-fatal-shooting-of-right-wing-demonstrator-in-portland-was-outside-mayors-condo-night-before-with-daughter.html

Real winners in the antifa ranks alright.

https://twitter.com/Jimmy__Tacos/status/1300076073154211846

Overheal

Biafranlivemat wrote: »

So you post a video, showing people repeating the lie "hands up, don't shoot" which came from Ferguson,Missouri were a officer shot a Thug in self defense.

Shot a human being.

But nevermind "hands up, don't shoot," has been said before, and since, and isn't the exclusive purview of one incident. Was the cop just "shooting a thug" when he opened fire on Charles Kinsey? I find it awfully strange to say "hands up, don't shoot," is a "lie." Doesn't compute, sorry.

Overheal

gozunda wrote: »

How the fuk does a cherry picked video from a ' Daily Mail' article equate to the daily savagery being posted by protestors/ rioters on social media?

Or are you just using that 'one-sided viewing lens' again?

But as you brought this particular group up ...

Heres the same controversial" group of moms" helping to break into a court house building

"Portland Mom Group helping Rioters Break down Barrier to Federal Courthouse"


(Carfacemandog - please take note before posting pro protestors / rioter opinion pieces)

Tbh you're now just embarrassing yourself Overheal

How does this constant personalization help us along? Are you condemning the people rioting, or me? It makes it so much more difficult to have a civil conversation where I can say "Thanks, Gozunda, hadn't seen that video before" etc. I am disappointed some Moms participated in rioting.

Overheal

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

The antifa clown that murdered the trump supporter in cold blood brought his 11-year-old daughter to the protest the night before. Yep. People should only be allowed to have kids with an IQ in the triple digits.

https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/08/man-under-investigation-in-fatal-shooting-of-right-wing-demonstrator-in-portland-was-outside-mayors-condo-night-before-with-daughter.html

Why should only 50% of the Irish population, US population, or any population not be allowed to procreate based solely on an intelligence grading system that is a nebulous matter of both scientific art and sample size?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient#:~:text=By%20this%20definition%2C%20approximately%20two,tests%20are%20estimates%20of%20intelligence.

brentanrodgers

Overheal wrote: »

Why should only 50% of the Irish population, US population, or any population not be allowed to procreate based solely on an intelligence grading system that is a nebulous matter of both scientific art and sample size?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient#:~:text=By%20this%20definition%2C%20approximately%20two,tests%20are%20estimates%20of%20intelligence.

Just so you know, what you're trying to do is totally transparent.

Manic Moran

Well, it seems that the criminal justice system hasn't done any favours on this side either. Too harsh, too lenient...

https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/08/man-under-investigation-in-fatal-shooting-after-pro-trump-rally-allegedly-took-loaded-gun-to-earlier-portland-protest.html

On July 5 at one of the demonstrations, Reinoehl was cited at 2:10 a.m. in the 700 block of Southwest Main Street on allegations of possessing a loaded gun in a public place, resisting arrest and interfering with police

He was given a date to appear in court later that month, but the allegations were dropped on July 30 with a “no complaint,” according to court records. The documents don’t indicate why prosecutors decided not to pursue the accusations. Reinoehl spent no time behind bars.

Not that it matters. The current DA says he's not going to prosecute low-level charges like "resisting arrest".

Brent Weisberg, a spokesman for Multnomah County District Attorney Mike Schmidt, said the office is still reviewing that July case involving Reinoehl.

Schmidt earlier Sunday decried the deadly violence. He took office on Aug. 1 and quickly announced that he wouldn’t pursue low-level charges against demonstrators, such as interfering with police or resisting arrest. He wasn’t district attorney when the office handled Reinoehl’s gun case.

Why is this guy on the streets, again?
Reinoehl is also wanted on a failure to appear warrant in a June 8 speed racing case in Baker County in eastern Oregon. He and his 17-year-old son were racing in two different cars at speeds of up to 111 mph heading east on Interstate 84 after midnight near North Powder, according to state police.

Michael Reinoehl faces allegations including driving under the influence of a controlled substance, recklessly endangering another, unlawful possession of a gun and driving while suspended and uninsured.

He was stopped driving a 2005 Cadillac STS with his 11-year-old daughter as a passenger, police said. Inside the car, police said they found marijuana, “unidentified prescription pills” and a loaded Glock pistol for which Reinoehl didn’t have a concealed handgun license.

Overheal

brentanrodgers wrote: »

Just so you know, what you're trying to do is totally transparent.

Informing people, you mean?

Gentleman Off The Pitch

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

There an awfull lot of racial attacks on white people lately and they aren't exactly hiding it either. If funny how "hate crime" hoaxes get all the coverage & trend on twitter but these racially motivated attacks... not so much. A white man shoots a black person and it’s headline news globally and immediately ASSUMED to be racism. A black man stabs a white man and admits its racism - and it’s largely ignored by the media.

This gobbsh*te stabbed a man, totally unprovoked, and said He ‘Felt The Need To Find A White Male To Kill’ after watching cop videos.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8677723/amp/Black-man-stabbed-AutoZone-employee-felt-need-white-male-kill.html#click=https://t.co/zPVVC8HeE0


Black Knives matter

It is remarkable that in a newspaper article about someone being almost stabbed to death due to the colour of their skin, the words racism or racist are not used even once

Broadstone Bob

Another cop shooting this time L.A.

Sneaker stores are being looted.

Broadstone Bob

Broadstone Bob wrote: »

Another cop shooting this time L.A.

Sneaker stores are being looted.

"White folks, please defer to black leadership"

https://twitter.com/ljenkins314/status/1300649736140189701?s=20

LessOutragePlz

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3Psb27ZflM

John Oliver was called out on his lies in that video.

The guy who has a history of racist and homophobic slurs?

nullzero

Broadstone Bob wrote: »

Sneaker stores are being looted.

Don't you mean reparations are being collected?

Broadstone Bob

More people like this guy need to stand up and have the loudest voice instead of the fringes on the left and right

https://twitter.com/mel_faith1/status/1300185017843429377?s=20

Broadstone Bob

Police in Portland not pulling punches tonight after a fire was started in a business which is on the ground floor of a residential apartment block.

https://twitter.com/ByMikeBaker/status/1300678248611807233?s=20

Tell me how

Biafranlivemat wrote: »

Never seen that in in the white suburbs of Boston.
could you show me were you have seen it.

Wegmans, Medford.
Target, Watertown
Burker King, Tremont Street

Sand

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

There an awfull lot of racial attacks on white people lately and they aren't exactly hiding it either. If funny how "hate crime" hoaxes get all the coverage & trend on twitter but these racially motivated attacks... not so much.

Yep. The media says there is no real interest in the shooting of a 5 year old white boy riding his bike by a black man beyond a brief statement. But a black man finds a pull rope for a garage door in his garage and it gets global news coverage. There is no objective justification for that. There is a definite agenda to diminish real attacks on white people, and amplify hoaxes by non-whites.

Tell me how

Sand wrote: »

Yep. The media says there is no real interest in the shooting of a 5 year old white boy riding his bike by a black man beyond a brief statement. But a black man finds a pull rope for a garage door in his garage and it gets global news coverage. There is no objective justification for that. There is a definite agenda to diminish real attacks on white people, and amplify hoaxes by non-whites.

Would that be the story where the man was identified, arrested, charged and held on remand now awaiting trial?

Do you see the difference in that between the cases where cops who killed people are never arrested or charged?

The noose was significant because it indicated, until clarified, a likely culture of racial intimidation.

You might be interested in the case of a shooting at the Molson Coors Brewery in Milwaukee earlier this year where a worker shot and killed 5 coworkers before then killing himself.

He had suffered such intimidation for years, including a noose being left in his locker.

Do you understand now why different cases receive different attention?

Sand

Tell me how wrote: »

Do you see the difference in that between the cases where cops who killed people are never arrested or charged?

Yes, one was a savage murder of a 5 year old child. The other was an poor to average NASCAR driver hoaxing a hate crime to get some media attention.

The noose was significant because it indicated, until clarified, a likely culture of racial intimidation.

It only reveals your own bias that you think the murder of a white child - indeed any child - is less important that a black man finding a rope in his garage.

Tell me how

Sand wrote: »

Yes, one was a savage murder of a 5 year old child. The other was an poor to average NASCAR driver hoaxing a hate crime to get some media attention.

It only reveals your own bias that you think the murder of a white child - indeed any child - is less important that a black man finding a rope in his garage.

I literally just gave you a real world example where such behaviour escalated to the point of a mass shooting event.

Why should the terrible death of that poor 5 year old be exploited so you can salivate over it being discussed on television, what more could happen in a situation where someone is already awaiting trial for it.

OMM 0000

The next Ireland (soccer) game, the team will take a knee.

Can't believe this toxic American ****e is making its way into Irish sports.

Tell me how

OMM 0000 wrote: »

The next Ireland (soccer) game, the team will take a knee.

Can't believe this toxic American ****e is making its way into Irish sports.

What do find toxic about supporting a community who continue to suffer prejudiced behaviour from an arm of the state?

LessOutragePlz

Tell me how wrote: »

What do find toxic about supporting a community who continue to suffer prejudiced behaviour from an arm of the state?

Why are they so silent on black people killing other black in way higher numbers than cops killing black people?

Why do black lives only matter when they are killed by cops and not by other black people?

CertifiedSimp

I see SkySports have decided to sack 3 of their old white pundits on soccer saturday. Those lads made the show what it is. Sure they may not have the best analysis but their chemistry and craic made it.

I hope Stelling leaves. No doubt they'll be replaced by token black men/women after Sky literally said they would hire more black people...

How long before this kinda thing arrives in Ireland? Maybe already begun,there's already a black girl on nationwide who sounds like she's in Transition year.

OMM 0000

Tell me how wrote: »

What do find toxic about supporting a community who continue to suffer prejudiced behaviour from an arm of the state?

The statistics prove that's an untrue statement. Whites in the US are just as likely to get abused by the police. And police brutality is rare. That's the reason why they always mention the same two victims.

Ireland does not have a police brutality problem, it does not have any real racism problem (there will always be a few idiots), so this ideological American issue has nothing to do with us.

Tell me how

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

Why are they so silent on black people killing other black in way higher numbers than cops killing black people?

Why do black lives only matter when they are killed by cops and not by other black people?

For, I think the 3rd time on this thread, consider the following.

A simple analogy.
People in Ireland fly tip. Most people hate it but don't get too animated about it.
Imagine the outrage there would be if it was county councils who were doing the fly tipping.

Police are an official, public body, paid for by public taxes, charged with keeping people safe.
If they were behaving in an excessive and prejudiced manner against any sector of society, would see the same demands for change.

Why shouldn't those calls happen just because it is largely black people who are suffering in this way?

Tell me how

CertifiedSimp wrote: »

I see SkySports have decided to sack 3 of their old white pundits on soccer saturday. Those lads made the show what it is. Sure they may not have the best analysis but their chemistry and craic made it.

I hope Stelling leaves. No doubt they'll be replaced by token black men/women after Sky literally said they would hire more black people...

How long before this kinda thing arrives in Ireland? Maybe already begun,there's already a black girl on nationwide who sounds like she's in Transition year.

Three white lads who, in your opinion, weren't very good at their jobs, should have been left at it rather than give any one else an opportunity, least of all a person of colour, irrespective of whether they are qualified to be there or not.


I mean, that argument just speaks for itself. There is no need for me to try to refute it.

nullzero

Tell me how wrote: »

For, I think the 3rd time on this thread, consider the following.

A simple analogy.
People in Ireland fly tip. Most people hate it but don't get too animated about it.
Imagine the outrage there would be if it was county councils who were doing the fly tipping.

Police are an official, public body, paid for by public taxes, charged with keeping people safe.
If they were behaving in an excessive and prejudiced manner against any sector of society, would see the same demands for change.

Why shouldn't those calls happen just because it is largely black people who are suffering in this way?

A simple analogy?

That doesn't make any sense.

Tell me how

OMM 0000 wrote: »

The statistics prove that's an untrue statement. Whites in the US are just as likely to get abused by the police. And police brutality is rare. That's the reason why they always mention the same two victims.

Ireland does not have a police brutality problem, it does not have any real racism problem (there will always be a few idiots), so this ideological American issue has nothing to do with us.

Sounds like some police reform is necessary so doesn't it.

Fair play to black people for getting the ball rolling while white people sit on their hands.