BLM, or WLM? [MOD WARNING: FIRST POST]

Biker79

Sealions dude.

http://wondermark.com/1k62/

Tell me how

Harry lyme wrote: »

An assault during an arrest 10 years ago is the only thing you could find, which proves that Police Brutality is essentially non existent in Ireland.

The poster asked for one example, what am I supposed to do?

Document every case since their foundation and produce it here?

Plenty room for improvement in Gardai, ask Maurice McCabe. Thankfully though, we dont see anything remotely close to the prejudices apparent in US.

Still doesn't mean we shouldn't support the Ideals of the BLM.

nullzero

Overheal wrote: »

I'm not sure how any of this was pertinent to our conversation but I will leave it there if you're going to stoop down the heirarchy into ad hominem.

It's a link to google, if you can't find a result that suits you add a search term. The user (and you) have stated categorically that there is no police brutality in Ireland, yet clearly there are examples of it. If my response was lazy, how lazy was the statement?

Any acts of brutality by Gardai have historically been dealt with correctly and no system of protection of Gardai exists to keep them from being prosecuted, which is something that is argued by people such as yourself about police forces in America.

Do you really believe that Ireland has an issue with police brutality that is not handled correctly? Even the smallest of issues are investigated by GSOC and any time situations like the case posted by the user "Tell me how" are raised they are dealt with.

Your argument was lazy and you're scrambling to take the moral high ground as usual, and as usual that effort is in vain.

Foxtrol

brentanrodgers wrote: »

Can you show me an example of some prominent right wing Politician showing up at a public figures house with a mob and screaming obscenities like "blue lives ain't ****" while that persons children are present?

Thanks

So is your problem that you want to pearl clutch about obscenities?

I'd argue calling people 'peaceful' that are shooting painballs and spraying bear mace on others is much closer to your initial claim of 'advocacy for violence' than a guy just shouting.

Overheal

Louisville Police have been trying to discredit Breonna Taylor as being involved in a 'crime syndicate' even going as far as to offer Glover, her ex-boyfriend, the one who the cops already had in custody during her wrongful death, a plea deal where he would not serve up to 10 years in jail but a probation. All he had to do was sign an affidavit that Taylor was a participant in his 'organized crime syndicate.' Naturally, he refused, and now the deal is public, with Police scrambling to put out the fire.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/09/01/breonna-taylor-plea-deal-louisville/?hpid=hp_hp-banner-main_taylor-12p%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans



"[In] July, Louisville prosecutors worked up a draft of a plea bargain with this offer for Glover: If the two-time convict said Taylor had participated in his “organized crime syndicate,” according to court records first reported by WDRB television on Monday, he could see a possible 10-year prison sentence turn into only a probation.

"Sam Aguiar, a Louisville attorney representing Taylor’s family in a wrongful-death lawsuit, slammed the offer as part of a smear campaign. He said the offer shows local officials are “desperate” to justify Taylor’s killing and “paint a picture of her which was vastly different than the woman she truly was,” he told the TV station.

“Shame on that office,” Aguiar wrote on Facebook. “She’s dead. Way to try and attack a woman when she’s not even here to defend herself.”

Harry lyme

Black People in America's voting patterns is a very large part of the reason things aren't as good for their community as they could be.

90% of black people vote for the Democrats irrespective of who the candidate is.

This means the Democrats don't have to work for their vote because they know their going to vote for them anyway and it means their is no incentive for the Republicans to chase their votes either.

This results in neither side needed to implement as many policies to help the black community because their not as flexible in their voting habits as they should be.

Your vote is a way of bribing politicians to do what you want them to do and should be used as such and that means being more flexible in who you might vote for. The politicians in America have to kiss the asses of white people because their not guaranteed to vote for one side or the other. They don't have to do that with the black community as they pretty much know they are or are not going to get their vote in the first place.

Biafranlivemat

nullzero wrote: »

Don't you mean reparations are being collected?

I have never heard of work boots been looted.

Foxtrol

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Lying liberals are slowly losing their grip of Black Americans as they are waking up to how the media has manipulated them to see Trump as someone who is causing division when the truth is that it is the left that has being doing that, for political gain.

I'll never get tired of posters dropping in random videos of black people implying that they speak for their whole communities.

When Trump's crowds stop looking like a mayonnaise truck tipped over then I think you may have a point.

Foxtrol

Harry lyme wrote: »

Black People in America's voting patterns is a very large part of the reason things aren't as good for their community as they could be.

90% of black people vote for the Democrats irrespective of who the candidate is.

This means the Democrats don't have to work for their vote because they know their going to vote for them anyway and it means their is no incentive for the Republicans to chase their votes either.

This results in neither side needed to implement as many policies to help the black community because their not as flexible in their voting habits as they should be.

Your vote is a way of bribing politicians to do what you want them to do and should be used as such and that means being more flexible in who you might vote for. The politicians in America have to kiss the asses of white people because their not guaranteed to vote for one side or the other. They don't have to do that with the black community as they pretty much know they are or are not going to get their vote in the first place.

Some of that is true but the fact you're missing is that it isn't far off 90% of voters in the US as a whole are set irrespective of who the candidate is.

To add to your Republican point, not only do they have no incentive to chase their votes, they actually have a disincentive based on how racist a sizable portion of their base is.

kildare lad

Sooner they defund the police the better . It'll definitely stop all the shootings going on. That's what happens when politicians back criminals and " activists " instead of police .

https://nypost.com/2020/08/31/nyc-passes-grim-milestone-with-over-1000-shootings-in-2020/


METRO
NYC passes grim gun-violence milestone as shootings top 1,000 for the year
By Craig McCarthy and Larry Celona

August 31, 2020 | 1:03pm


NYPD officers at the scene of a shooting where three people were shot on Myrtle Avenue and Carlton Avenue
NYPD officers at the scene where three people were shot at Myrtle and Carlton avenues
Seth Gottfried
The city surpassed 1,000 shootings for the year on Sunday, according to NYPD data, which also shows an average of nearly 10 people fell victim to gun violence each day over the last four weeks.

With four more months left in 2020, New York City logged 1,004 shootings as of Aug. 30, according to NYPD data released Monday. Last year, there had been just 537 by that time.

It is the first time the city has eclipsed the benchmark in gun violence since 2015, when 1,138 shootings were recorded for the entire year.

“Mr. Mayor, it is time to stop calling New York the safest big city,” a Brooklyn cop quipped to The Post.

The notable number comes a week before Labor Day, when cops expect another bloody holiday weekend in the Big Apple.


The city has seen 13 straight weeks of surging gun violence — with 375 more shootings and 499 more victims compared to the same time last year.

There were 277 shooting victims logged over the 28 days ending Aug. 30 — meaning on average, nearly 10 people per day were shot, NYPD data shows

Outlaw Pete

The lunatic left.


https://twitter.com/GKeile/status/1300880120635363330

Harry lyme

Tell me how wrote: »

The poster asked for one example, what am I supposed to do?

Document every case since their foundation and produce it here?

Plenty room for improvement in Gardai, ask Maurice McCabe. Thankfully though, we dont see anything remotely close to the prejudices apparent in US.

Still doesn't mean we shouldn't support the Ideals of the BLM.

Be truthful and admit that police brutality is essentially non existent here and BLM has no relevance in an Irish context.

Maurice McCabe is an example of police corruption not police brutality and there isn't a police force in the world that doesn't have some corruption in it unfortunately.

BattleCorp

Foxtrol wrote: »

I'll never get tired of posters dropping in random videos of black people implying that they speak for their whole communities.

It's kind of like posters dropping random videos of cops doing wrong and implying that they are representative of the whole police force.

MisterAnarchy

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

The lunatic left.


https://twitter.com/GKeile/status/1300880120635363330

Thats the same demented virago that was harassing the people leaving Trumps speech at the White House last week.

She needs a few nights in prison to cool her down.

gozunda

Overheal wrote: »

Louisville Police have been trying to discredit Breonna Taylor as being involved in a 'crime syndicate' even going as far as to offer Glover, her ex-boyfriend, the one who the cops already had in custody during her wrongful death, a plea deal where he would not serve up to 10 years in jail but a probation. All he had to do was sign an affidavit that Taylor was a participant in his 'organized crime syndicate.' Naturally, he refused, and now the deal is public, with Police scrambling to put out the fire.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/09/01/breonna-taylor-plea-deal-louisville/?hpid=hp_hp-banner-main_taylor-12p%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/P2YKC2XHG4I6VP2EBUY4QWBYUU.jpg&w=916

"[In] July, Louisville prosecutors worked up a draft of a plea bargain with this offer for Glover: If the two-time convict said Taylor had participated in his “organized crime syndicate,” according to court records first reported by WDRB television on Monday, he could see a possible 10-year prison sentence turn into only a probation.

"Sam Aguiar, a Louisville attorney representing Taylor’s family in a wrongful-death lawsuit, slammed the offer as part of a smear campaign. He said the offer shows local officials are “desperate” to justify Taylor’s killing and “paint a picture of her which was vastly different than the woman she truly was,” he told the TV station.

“Shame on that office,” Aguiar wrote on Facebook. “She’s dead. Way to try and attack a woman when she’s not even here to defend herself.”

What?

In the first paragraph you're claiming that the Louisville police are "offering (him) a plea deal where he would not serve up to 10 years in jail but a probation"

Wtf?

Police are not "prosecutors" just in case you are confused or something.

A prosecutor is a lawyer that works for a prosecutors office, which is essentially a government law firm whose only client is the State, and the State pays the prosecutors office to uphold it's laws.

In this instance it is the Lousville Prosecutors office offering the plea deal. Something which as far as I know is a very common feature of many prosecutions. But hey why bother with facts when it's easier to just throw crap at the police eh?

By the way - your linked article is behind a paywall.

And btw the above is not a comment on the ongoing case .

Gerry Hatrick

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

The lunatic left.


https://twitter.com/GKeile/status/1300880120635363330

That policeman showed incredible restraint

Foxtrol

BattleCorp wrote: »

It's kind of like posters dropping random videos of cops doing wrong and implying that they are representative of the whole police force.

I'm not a fan of Trump supporters but even I wouldn't equate them to murderers...

MisterAnarchy

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

That policeman showed incredible restraint

He should have given her a knuckle sandwich, but of course that would be what she wanted .
Who are all of these people with cameras on the scene, mercenary press ?
This seems to be the thing now, everyone with phones and cameras just recording instead of actually taking action.

gozunda

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

The lunatic left.


https://twitter.com/GKeile/status/1300880120635363330

How in dogs name can anyone defend these people...

It beggars belief ...

1800_Ladladlad

https://twitter.com/KMOV/status/1300245570511138820


Thomas Kinworthy, 43, is charged with first-degree murder and multiple other charges related to the shooting of Officer Bohannon. Parasite!!!!

Imagine having a haircut like that at 43 years of age..

LessOutragePlz

This is what happens when cops let a suspect reach into a car.

Warning: Video shows cops being shot but they both survived.

https://twitter.com/prageru/status/1300168917122457600?s=19

1800_Ladladlad

Jose Reyes, the black man who attempted to rape a white woman in a subway of NYC, has been released and is now free to walk the streets. The footage was disturbing. The people who took out their phone instead of helping the woman or failed to beat the living ****e out of that dirtbag is even worse.

Danzy

gozunda wrote: »

How in dogs name can anyone defend these people...

It beggars belief ...

The left has become the home of the most obnoxious and entitled young and well to do.

Some change from years ago.

Jeff2

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

https://twitter.com/KMOV/status/1300245570511138820


Thomas Kinworthy, 43, is charged with first-degree murder and multiple other charges related to the shooting of Officer Bohannon. Parasite!!!!

Looks like he had a fair few falls while being arrested , the mong.

nj27

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

This is what happens when cops let a suspect reach into a car.

Warning: Video shows cops being shot but they both survived.

https://twitter.com/prageru/status/1300168917122457600?s=19

Dennis Prager has a dog in this fight. It's the same dog that started this fight. It's never going to happen, but if the small hats were told to gtfo and legit social policy were implemented in America a lot of these problems would disappear tomorrow. Rest of text redacted.

LessOutragePlz

nj27 wrote: »

Dennis Prager has a dog in this fight. It's the same dog that started this fight. It's never going to happen, but if the small hats were told to gtfo and legit social policy were implemented in America a lot of these problems would disappear tomorrow. Rest of text redacted.

What legit social policies should be implemented?

Dyr

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Jose Reyes, the black man who attempted to rape a white woman in a subway of NYC, has been released and is now free to walk the streets. The footage was disturbing. The people who took out their phone instead of helping the woman or failed to beat the living ****e out of that dirtbag is even worse.

That animal walked?


Jesus H Christ

nj27

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

What legit social policies should be implemented?

Don't believe I can talk about them here, sir.

kildare lad

Jeff2 wrote: »

Looks like he had a fair few falls while being arrested , the mong.

I wonder will the cop be a hero to the black community, as much as they worship george Floyd and Jacob Blake ... Sadly not I suspect