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BLM, or WLM? [MOD WARNING: FIRST POST]

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    #6002
    Tell me how
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    nolivesmatter wrote: »
    I'd guarantee he'd absolutely be outraged at police treating anyone in unacceptable ways. For you to suggest otherwise is out of order and without justification.

    How can you guarantee that?

    They have 60 posts on the thread, wanna guess how many of them are suggesting police behaviour is unacceptable?


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    #6003
    nolivesmatter
    Registered Users Posts: 897 ✭✭✭nolivesmatter


    Tell me how wrote: »
    How can you guarantee that?

    They have 60 posts on the thread, wanna guess how many of them are suggesting police behaviour is unacceptable?

    So we must share your subjective sense of what's acceptable police behavior, or else it's evidence we care more about dogs than people? Yeah that's fair.

    Less of the character assassination attempts please. Thanks.


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    #6004
    [Deleted User]
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    9 posts don't matter. Good luck.


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    #6005
    Gervais08
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭Gervais08


    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    A few teams in English football have stopped bending the knee. Sky Sports News/Comcast were losing their **** over it. One of the clubs were QPR. A club that named their stadium after a young black kid that was stabbed and have a black director of football.

    I saw that. If that doesn’t show it’s not about societal change but just box ticking and slavish following of a trend - nothing will.


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    #6006
    mynamejeff
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    Tell me how wrote: »
    If only you had a tenth of the outrage over police treating black people in unacceptable ways as you do when there is a dog involved.

    Strange comment to profess a desire to use such violence while being against people protesting unacceptable police behaviour.

    is that what you see in that video ?


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    #6007
    1800_Ladladlad
    Registered Users Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad


    Tell me how wrote: »
    If only you had a tenth of outrage over police treating black people in unacceptable ways as you do when there is a dog involved.

    Strange comment to profess a desire to use such violence while being against people protesting unacceptable police behavior.

    Again the mental gymnastics.

    If only you had a ounce of the outrage over black people being killed by other black people in the very same way you do when a white person involved in the death of a black person.....

    The usual melodramatic comment that displays such a fragile outrage, which again exposes such a profound desire and acceptance for violence to be used against those who don't share their warped ideology, regardless of their ethnicity etc. all under the guise of "protest"

    The video of the thugs attacking the car with a animal in it (do you not care about the well-being of animals?) is not protesting unacceptable police behavior. Its violence and intimidation. How you read my post and came out with your response is commical.

    They have 60 posts on the thread, wanna guess how many of them are suggesting police behaviour is unacceptable?

    I'm sure you're dying to tell us.


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    #6008
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    With so many US athletes mindlessly jumping on the whole BLM thing in an attempt to virtue signal, good to see at least one use their platform to condemn them:


    https://twitter.com/MMAjunkie/status/1307541023292350469


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    #6009
    RasTa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    With so many US athletes mindlessly jumping on the whole BLM thing in an attempt to virtue signal, good to see at least one use their platform to condemn them:


    https://twitter.com/MMAjunkie/status/1307541023292350469

    lol virtue signal you say?

    https://twitter.com/ColbyCovMMA/status/1307535742516649984

    Stupid Americans, every side.


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    #6010
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    nolivesmatter wrote: »
    So we must share your subjective sense of what's acceptable police behavior, or else it's evidence we care more about dogs than people? Yeah that's fair.

    Less of the character assassination attempts please. Thanks.

    Isn’t that also the standard model as for other forms of online shaming all the way up to call-out culture, cancellation (another form of character assassination) and doxing?

    And the peculiar thing about such 'shaming' is that there is no need to have necessarily committed any social transgression other than simply holding and voicing a different opinion.

    Modern day witch finding more or less ...


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    #6011
    nolivesmatter
    Registered Users Posts: 897 ✭✭✭nolivesmatter


    gozunda wrote: »
    Isn’t that also the standard model as for other forms of online shaming all the way up to call-out culture, cancellation (another form of character assassination) and doxing?

    And the peculiar thing about such 'shaming' is that there is no need to have necessarily committed any social transgression other than simply holding and voicing a different opinion.

    Modern day witch finding more or less ...

    It comes across as a combination of discrediting you so they don't need to defend against the merit of your argument, and an attempt to antagonize/goad you into reacting badly in the hope that you discredit yourself.


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    #6012
    Mic 1972
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    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    With so many US athletes mindlessly jumping on the whole BLM thing in an attempt to virtue signal, good to see at least one use their platform to condemn them:


    https://twitter.com/MMAjunkie/status/1307541023292350469


    It's great to see people finally coming out of the woods and speak out, enough with BLM and fear of being cancelled


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    #6013
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Very few celebrities, Z list or otherwise, so far willing to speak out which is a shame - all have an eye on how it would affect their careers - just shows you the power that the left have in Western Society when so many within the Entertainment Industry are afraid to say what they think.

    Few notable exceptions are people whose careers are on the slide maybe and they have nothing to lose perhaps. James Woods, Dean Cain, Kirstie Alley are a few that come to mind that would fit that description of stars of yesteryear who most likely aren't afraid of speaking out now as they no longer rely on box office numbers any more.


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    #6014
    Biker79
    Closed Accounts Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Biker79


    Leftiness is on its way out - probably by this decade. They arent breeding anywhere near as much as traditionally moderate/ conservative people.

    The pendulum is swinging back to the right with enough room for the sensibly liberal. Historians will no doubt look back on this period..from 2005 to perhaps 2025/2030...and scratch their heads.

    Its the end of the post WW2 order and the start of something else.


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    #6015
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,491 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    ^ that’s pretty far fetched. As if to say for instance, without making this topic personal bickering again, that my parents or my OHs parents are liberals or progressives. Rest assured that’s not the case and political views are not genetically inherited. As if to suggest you can “breed out” progressivism, which is tic for tock throughout history.


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    #6016
    nolivesmatter
    Registered Users Posts: 897 ✭✭✭nolivesmatter


    Overheal wrote: »
    ^ that’s pretty far fetched. As if to say for instance, without making this topic personal bickering again, that my parents or my OHs parents are liberals or progressives. Rest assured that’s not the case and political views are not genetically inherited. As if to suggest you can “breed out” progressivism, which is tic for tock throughout history.

    Presumably that's why they said "...with enough room for the sensibly liberal".


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    #6017
    statesaver
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    More threatening behaviour from the tolerate Left.

    https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1307607516184895488


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    #6018
    Gervais08
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭Gervais08


    statesaver wrote: »
    More threatening behaviour from the tolerate Left.

    https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1307607516184895488

    Who the **** are these arrogant gob****es to DEMAND that??? “So we know you’re cool”. F*** you!!!!


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    #6019
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Imagine the reaction if MAGA hat wearing mobs behaved how these lunatics behaved, demanding people say Trump is their President, or they wouldn't let them go.

    That there are so many young people in Western Society (not just "Merica") today that behave like spoiled deranged brats with little or no respect for people who disagree with them, let alone authority, surely tells us that something was amiss with regards to their upbringing and education, perhaps both.

    It's shocking how many of them, particularly white kids, and in such huge numbers too, that you will hear saying demeaning things about white people in general. How can we not therefore come to the logical conclusion that some form of indoctrination has taken place, to affect how these last two generations saw their own race and history.


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    #6020
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    Hey, at least they spoke to them face to face.

    https://twitter.com/SenSherrodBrown/status/1273073782350139392

    And yes, that is police officers standing 8 ft away as a guy gets punched from behind and ignoring it.


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    #6021
    nolivesmatter
    Registered Users Posts: 897 ✭✭✭nolivesmatter


    statesaver wrote: »
    More threatening behaviour from the tolerate Left.

    https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1307607516184895488

    The words are utterly meaningless if they're spoken under duress.


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    #6022
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    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Imagine the reaction if MAGA hat wearing mobs behaved how these lunatics behaved, demanding people say Trump is their President, or they wouldn't let them go.

    That there are so many young people in Western Society (not just "Merica") today that behave like spoiled deranged brats with little or no respect for people who disagree with them, let alone authority, surely tells us that something was amiss with regards to their upbringing and education, perhaps both.

    It's shocking how many of them, particularly white kids, and in such huge numbers too, that you will hear saying demeaning things about white people in general. How can we not therefore come to the logical conclusion that some form of indoctrination has taken place, to affect how these last two generations saw their own race and history.

    You mean like this?

    https://twitter.com/feliciasonmez/status/1306671119114604544


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    #6023
    DangerScouse
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 466 ✭✭DangerScouse


    statesaver wrote: »
    More threatening behaviour from the tolerate Left.

    https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1307607516184895488

    Gaining Trump votes in a big way anytime this sort of stuff happens.


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    #6024
    nolivesmatter
    Registered Users Posts: 897 ✭✭✭nolivesmatter


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Hey, at least they spoke to them face to face.

    https://twitter.com/SenSherrodBrown/status/1273073782350139392

    And yes, that is police officers standing 8 ft away as a guy gets punched from behind and ignoring it.

    Yeah, that is totally unacceptable. The assaulter absolutely should be dealt with by the police.


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    #6025
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    nolivesmatter wrote: »
    Yeah, that is totally unacceptable. The assaulter absolutely should be dealt with by the police.

    And any police force who stands by while such a thing happens needs to be looked at, wouldn't you agree?


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    #6026
    nolivesmatter
    Registered Users Posts: 897 ✭✭✭nolivesmatter


    Tell me how wrote: »
    And any police force who stands by while such a thing happens needs to be looked at, wouldn't you agree?

    Absolutely.


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    #6027
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    nolivesmatter wrote: »
    Absolutely.

    Excellent, more support for overcoming unacceptable police behaviour.


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    #6028
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Tell me how wrote: »
    And any police force who stands by while such a thing happens needs to be looked at, wouldn't you agree?

    Of course. Didn't you read us all complaining on the Antifa thread about how cops often used to stand by while they were being violent?? What makes you think any of us would think what that c**t did was okay then? None of us would, obviously.
    Tell me how wrote: »
    You mean like this?

    https://twitter.com/feliciasonmez/status/1306671119114604544

    That's being implemented to address exactly what I am referring to.


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    #6029
    nolivesmatter
    Registered Users Posts: 897 ✭✭✭nolivesmatter


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Excellent, more support for overcoming unacceptable police behaviour.

    I'm in support of overcoming unacceptable police. I just don't agree that the likes of what happened to George Floyd was racially motivated.


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    #6030
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    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    That's being implemented to address exactly what I am referring to.

    I remember a time when people in Western countries used to look at overt state mandated patriotism in the likes of China and North Korea and think that that was a dangerous thing.


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    #6031
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    nolivesmatter wrote: »
    I'm in support of overcoming unacceptable police. I just don't agree that the likes of what happened to George Floyd was racially motivated.

    I'm not going to try to convince you that it categorically was. We've all seen the video, there is no definitive proof that it was.

    I just see it as a positive that you are in favour of unacceptable behaviour being highlighted and action taken to overcome it if and when it occurs.


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