Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

BLM, or WLM? [MOD WARNING: FIRST POST]

Options
1…199200202204205…354

Comments

  • Options
    #6032
    Rodney Bathgate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    nolivesmatter wrote: »
    The words are utterly meaningless if they're spoken under duress.

    I love your username. Well done.


  • Options
    #6033
    statesaver
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    nolivesmatter wrote: »
    I'm in support of overcoming unacceptable police. I just don't agree that the likes of what happened to George Floyd was racially motivated.

    It wasn't racially motivated. They knew and hated each other. But when a death can be spun for a Marxist communist advantage they jumped all over it.

    The one thing BLM need to do is find better martyrs.


  • Options
    #6034
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users Posts: 6,505 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    statesaver wrote: »
    It wasn't racially motivated. They knew and hated each other. But when a death can be spun for a Marxist communist advantage they jumped all over it.

    The one thing BLM need to do is find better martyrs.

    Jussie Smollett?

    Bubba Wallace?


  • Options
    #6035
    Tell me how
    Registered Users Posts: 21,701 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    statesaver wrote: »
    It wasn't racially motivated. They knew and hated each other. But when a death can be spun for a Marxist communist advantage they jumped all over it.

    Hang on. What?
    And people are trying to defend the police in this case?

    Really? Think about that.
    statesaver wrote: »
    The one thing BLM need to do is find better martyrs.

    Like Breonna Taylor and Tamir Rice?


  • Options
    #6036
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Biker79 wrote: »
    Leftiness is on its way out - probably by this decade. They arent breeding anywhere near as much as traditionally moderate/ conservative people.

    The pendulum is swinging back to the right with enough room for the sensibly liberal. Historians will no doubt look back on this period..from 2005 to perhaps 2025/2030...and scratch their heads.

    Its the end of the post WW2 order and the start of something else.

    The richer a society is, the stronger its left will be. The more working class, the weaker it will be.


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #6037
    iebamm2580
    Registered Users Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭iebamm2580


    In all fairness the tactics they used in breonna taylors shooting is ridiculous beyond belief, an unannounced forced entry, what kind of stupid dangerous way is that to arrest somebody, if somebody broke into your house in the middle of the night and you had gun in the bed beside you the vast majority of people would use it so don't know how the police thought that was a sensible tactic as they could have and maybe rightly received fire back.


  • Options
    #6038
    Rodney Bathgate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.thepostmillennial.com/leftists-still-seek-justice-for-jussie-smollett-and-all-targeted-by-police-misconduct
    BLM activists are still "demanding justice" for alleged hate crime hoaxer Jussie Smollett, now claiming that his grand jury indictment on six charges of filing false reports is proof of racism in the legal system.


  • Options
    #6039
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Hang on. What?
    And people are trying to defend the police in this case?

    Really? Think about that.



    Like Breonna Taylor and Tamir Rice?

    He followed procedure and training and did that when the very big junkie had been fighting and resisting arrest.

    Unfortunately, for the junkie, he died as his body gave out.


  • Options
    #6040
    Tell me how
    Registered Users Posts: 21,701 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    iebamm2580 wrote: »
    In all fairness the tactics they used in breonna taylors shooting is ridiculous beyond belief, an unannounced forced entry, what kind of stupid dangerous way is that to arrest somebody, if somebody broke into your house in the middle of the night and you had gun in the bed beside you the vast majority of people would use it so don't know how the police thought that was a sensible tactic as they could have and maybe rightly received fire back.

    The same people who support that method of police activity, also strongly support the ideal of using a weapon to protect yourself against a home invader.


  • Options
    #6041
    Tell me how
    Registered Users Posts: 21,701 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Danzy wrote: »
    He followed procedure and training and did that when the very big junkie had been fighting and resisting arrest.

    Unfortunately, for the junkie, he died as his body gave out.

    Hence the calls for such procedures and training to change.


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #6042
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,491 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Tell me how wrote: »

    Like Breonna Taylor and Tamir Rice?

    There's already been character assassination of Taylor, and yes, there was even character assassination of Rice going as far as to blame his death on his parents' criminal records. A child. I even see there are some news articles that felt it important to report a 12-year old did not, in fact, have any drugs in their system.

    Don't underestimate the ability of people to ad hominem the **** out of avoiding the real issue.


  • Options
    #6043
    AbusesToilets
    Registered Users Posts: 10,495 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Overheal wrote: »
    There's already been character assassination of Taylor, and yes, there was even character assassination of Rice going as far as to blame his death on his parents' criminal records. A child. I even see there are some news articles that felt it important to report a 12-year old did not, in fact, have any drugs in their system.

    Don't underestimate the ability of people to ad hominem the **** out of avoiding the real issue.

    What character assassination is that? Pointing out the evidence of her involvement in drug trafficking?


  • Options
    #6044
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Hence the calls for such procedures and training to change.

    That restraint shouldn't be used but it is not the reason Floyd died.


  • Options
    #6045
    Tell me how
    Registered Users Posts: 21,701 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Danzy wrote: »
    That restraint shouldn't be used but it is not the reason Floyd died.

    This should interest you
    George Floyd’s Autopsy and the Structural Gaslighting of America
    The weaponization of medical language emboldened white supremacy with the authority of the white coat. How will we stop it from happening again?
    By Monday, June 1, in the context of widespread political pressure, the public received two reports: the preliminary autopsy report commissioned by Floyd’s family by private doctors, and—shortly thereafter—a summary of the preliminary autopsy from the Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s Office. Both reports stated that the cause of Floyd’s death was homicide: death at the hands of another.


  • Options
    #6046
    statesaver
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Hang on. What?
    And people are trying to defend the police in this case?

    Really? Think about that.



    Like Breonna Taylor and Tamir Rice?

    Was not motivated by race.

    About Breonna Taylor
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh9Czx1cmnk


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTE6y7bVCgY


  • Options
    #6047
    Tell me how
    Registered Users Posts: 21,701 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    statesaver wrote: »
    Was not motivated by race.

    About Breonna Taylor
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh9Czx1cmnk


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTE6y7bVCgY

    BLM are calling for acton to stop the unnecessary deaths of black people at the hands of police officers.

    Are you saying that such deaths aren't a problem? Or that they are only a problem if they have are categorically shown to as a consequence of explicit racism?

    Also, do you understand what the term institutional racism means?


  • Options
    #6048
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    statesaver wrote: »
    It wasn't racially motivated. They knew and hated each other. But when a death can be spun for a Marxist communist advantage they jumped all over it.

    The one thing BLM need to do is find better martyrs.

    seems after the dust settles and the outrage a lot of people shot or killed by the police are active violent criminals with many convictions


    strange that


  • Options
    #6049
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,491 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    AbusesToilets wrote: »
    What character assassination is that? Pointing out the evidence of her involvement in drug trafficking?

    Yes yes and pointing out the evidence of Tamir Rice's parent's criminal records. :rolleyes:

    All to belittle the fact that their deaths were indefensible.


  • Options
    #6050
    Tell me how
    Registered Users Posts: 21,701 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    mynamejeff wrote: »
    seems after the dust settles and the outrage a lot of people shot or killed by the police are active violent criminals with many convictions


    strange that

    Breonna Taylor
    Tamir Rice


  • Options
    #6051
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    Overheal wrote: »
    Yes yes and pointing out the evidence of Tamir Rice's parent's criminal records. :rolleyes:

    All to belittle the fact that their deaths were indefensible.

    he is not talking about tamir rice is he ?


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #6052
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 83,491 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    mynamejeff wrote: »
    he is not talking about tamir rice is he ?

    You're nitpicking for no reason. I don't think anyone is confused by the conversation here.


  • Options
    #6053
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Breonna Taylor
    Tamir Rice

    are we going around again ? ?

    do I have to go find the many times posted link showing Miss taylor active involvement in drug trafficking , and point out that her fella was blasting away at the cops she was shot


  • Options
    #6054
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    Overheal wrote: »
    You're nitpicking for no reason. I don't think anyone is confused by the conversation here.

    wondering why you didn't leap to the defence of the drug trafficker though ?


  • Options
    #6055
    Tell me how
    Registered Users Posts: 21,701 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    mynamejeff wrote: »
    are we going around again ? ?

    do I have to go find the many times posted link showing Miss taylor active involvement in drug trafficking , and point out that her fella was blasting away at the cops she was show ,

    You can save yourself the trouble by considering if any such event warranted her being shot and killed while lying bed.


  • Options
    #6056
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    Tell me how wrote: »
    You can save yourself the trouble by considering if any such event warranted her being shot and killed while lying bed.

    who started shooting ?


    criminality has consequences ,

    if she wasn't involved in what she was involved in she would be alive correct ?


  • Options
    #6057
    AbusesToilets
    Registered Users Posts: 10,495 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Overheal wrote: »
    Yes yes and pointing out the evidence of Tamir Rice's parent's criminal records. :rolleyes:

    All to belittle the fact that their deaths were indefensible.

    The evidence is what it is. Doesn't mean she deserved to die by any means, but if her BF started firing through the door when the police announced themselves, what course of action does that leave to the cops? What do you expect them to do at that point?

    From what I've read it was a serious failure on the police's part in execution for this raid, and a failure on the part of the officers to fire their guns without proper id of their target.


  • Options
    #6058
    statesaver
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    Tell me how wrote: »
    BLM are calling for acton to stop the unnecessary deaths of black people at the hands of police officers.

    Are you saying that such deaths aren't a problem? Or that they are only a problem if they have are categorically shown to as a consequence of explicit racism?

    Also, do you understand what the term institutional racism means?

    Watch the videos.

    You sound very closed minded and live in an echo chamber.


  • Options
    #6059
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    Overheal wrote: »
    You're nitpicking for no reason. I don't think anyone is confused by the conversation here.

    Rollox .

    you just shifted the goalposts and did so badly ,


  • Options
    #6060
    AbusesToilets
    Registered Users Posts: 10,495 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Tell me how wrote: »
    You can save yourself the trouble by considering if any such event warranted her being shot and killed while lying bed.

    She wasn't in bed though.


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #6061
    Tell me how
    Registered Users Posts: 21,701 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    AbusesToilets wrote: »
    She wasn't in bed though.

    You say that like her being shot 8 times was justified.


Advertisement