BLM, or WLM? [MOD WARNING: FIRST POST]

Bonniedog

hynesie08 wrote: »

Churchill was a dictator tosspot who was so despised by his own people he was voted out after beating the nazis though......

The people of east London generally vote Labour. They did however suffer quite a bit from real Nazis bombing the place and lost many in the war in Europe.

Perhaps they find it "offensive" that the same gimps some from current dictatorships and corrupt kips in Africa have decided that by defintion - being mostly white - that they are racist?

As said before, would love to have seen the reaction had the Bohs gang brought all this cr@p to games where there were spectators.

nullzero

hynesie08 wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Webster has a pretty fair definition


If you can't tell the difference between hair colour and a millenia long history of oppression and second class citizenship then you probably won't understand any definition given....

Ironically pasty Irish gingers faced an almost millennia long history of oppression and second class citizenship themselves.

The Atlantic slave trade began around 400 years ago, many long years after the Norman's invaded Ireland and the jack boot of British oppression landed on the necks of the people of this country.

The treatment of the Irish by the British was deplorable, the Atlantic slave trade was deplorable, both groups were dehumanised and we were left to starve to death to the tune of over a million of our people, yet we have modern Irish people feeling the need to prostrate themselves at the alter of BLM with the noose of white privilege around their necks as if we as a people were responsible for the Atlantic slave trade* and suffered no ill treatment in all of our history.

*(I've seen more than one use of the presence of British slave owners living in Ireland during the British occupation of this country as evidence of Irish involvement in the Atlantic slave trade, which is wildly inaccurate and the very definition of a reaching argument).

If anything our history is more tragic than that of the victims of the Atlantic slave trade,but it isn't a competition to see who's worse off.

So while I feel solidarity with those people I certainly do not accept responsibility for what happened to them, no more than they are responsible for our historical woes.

Bonniedog

In one, my zero friend.

Nermal

hynesie08 wrote: »

second class citizenship

Who is a 'second-class citizen' in the US (or any other Western democracy) today?

Who is not equal before the law?

ELM327

Nermal wrote: »

Who is a 'second-class citizen' in the US (or any other Western democracy) today?

Who is not equal before the law?

Whoever the superwoke choose, it would seem.

MisterAnarchy

nullzero wrote: »

The treatment of the Irish by the British was deplorable, the Atlantic slave trade was deplorable, both groups were dehumanised and we were left to starve to death to the tune of over a million of our people, yet we have modern Irish people feeling the need to prostrate themselves at the alter of BLM with the noose of white privilege around their necks as if we as a people were responsible for the Atlantic slave trade* and suffered no ill treatment in all of our history.

A bit off topic but that documentary on the Irish Famine last Monday night should be essential viewing for every Irish and British person.
https://www.rte.ie/player/series/the-hunger-the-story-of-the-irish-famine/SI0000008058?epguid=IP000065817

Its a brilliantly moving but tragic 2 hours of viewing.
I was in tears at points as to what our ancestors were subjected to .
It wasnt so much as a Famine but more of a Genocide.

nullzero

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

A bit off topic but that documentary on the Irish Famine last Monday night should be essential viewing for every Irish and British person.
https://www.rte.ie/player/series/the-hunger-the-story-of-the-irish-famine/SI0000008058?epguid=IP000065817

Its a brilliantly moving but tragic 2 hours of viewing.
I was in tears at points as to what our ancestors were subjected to .
It wasnt so much as a Famine but more of a Genocide.

It wasn't a genocide (that would suggest the British actively set out to kill the Irish off in large numbers). I feel it was worse, they just didn't think enough of us to intervene to stop what was going on.

tom1ie

nullzero wrote: »

Ironically pasty Irish gingers faced an almost millennia long history of oppression and second class citizenship themselves.

The Atlantic slave trade began around 400 years ago, many long years after the Norman's invaded Ireland and the jack boot of British oppression landed on the necks of the people of this country.

The treatment of the Irish by the British was deplorable, the Atlantic slave trade was deplorable, both groups were dehumanised and we were left to starve to death to the tune of over a million of our people, yet we have modern Irish people feeling the need to prostrate themselves at the alter of BLM with the noose of white privilege around their necks as if we as a people were responsible for the Atlantic slave trade* and suffered no ill treatment in all of our history.

*(I've seen more than one use of the presence of British slave owners living in Ireland during the British occupation of this country as evidence of Irish involvement in the Atlantic slave trade, which is wildly inaccurate and the very definition of a reaching argument).

If anything our history is more tragic than that of the victims of the Atlantic slave trade,but it isn't a competition to see who's worse off.

So while I feel solidarity with those people I certainly do not accept responsibility for what happened to them, no more than they are responsible for our historical woes.

This!

Bonniedog

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

A bit off topic but that documentary on the Irish Famine last Monday night should be essential viewing for every Irish and British person.
https://www.rte.ie/player/series/the-hunger-the-story-of-the-irish-famine/SI0000008058?epguid=IP000065817

Its a brilliantly moving but tragic 2 hours of viewing.
I was in tears at points as to what our ancestors were subjected to .
It wasnt so much as a Famine but more of a Genocide.

Ah now, it wasn't as bad as someone being served Ribena instead of wine. Which ranks up there with the Stalinist purges, Holocaust and Great Leap Forward in the crimes against humanity.

Anyway, the Famine was our own fault for not diversifying into Tofu and asparagus, and riding like there was no tomorrow because apparently the priests made us. Or was it the IRA?

Quantum Erasure

Looks like theres trouble brewing
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/10/black-lives-matter-organization-biden-444097

The Black Lives Matter movement is buckling under the strain of its own success, with tensions rising between local chapters and national leaders over the group’s goals, direction — and money. those atop the movement are making a series of moves to alter its power structure: organizing a political action committee, forming corporate partnerships, adding a third organizing arm and demanding an audience with President-elect Joe Biden.

The moves have triggered mutiny in the ranks. Ten local chapters are severing ties with the Black Lives Matter Global Network, as the national leadership is known. They are furious that Patrisse Cullors, its remaining co-founder, named herself executive director of the group and made these decisions without their input. That’s a move, that, to some, signaled a rebuke of its “leaderful” structure, which gave every member an equal say and kept anyone — including a founder — from overreaching.

The operations of Black Lives Matter have always been opaque, with thousands of members and dozens of affiliates. Two of its three co-founders are no longer affiliated with the movement — even as they continue to represent Black Lives Matter on TV. Local Black Lives Matter activists say national leaders cut them off from funding and decision-making, leaving them broke and taking the movement in a direction with which they fundamentally disagree. And as the Black Lives Matter movement grows in influence, with millions in donations and celebrity endorsements, local organizers argue they’re the ones in the streets pushing for change — and they’re not getting their due.

ExMachina1000

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Looks like theres trouble brewing
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/10/black-lives-matter-organization-biden-444097

When will they start addressing black on black crimes and homicides?
Probably not much money in it I suppose.
Conman group

Bonniedog

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

When will they start addressing black on black crimes and homicides?
Probably not much money in it I suppose.
Conman group

Like their offshoot here.

Indeed a little bird tells me that followers of a certain LOI club are beginning to wonder at some of the extra-mural money making activities of certain chaps who have decided to connect themselves. One of whom is also in hot water over another charity which perhaps is not unconnected to a certain chap pretending that he has been the target of the "far right."

BLM is very strange bird. They were minting it globally through tacky tee shirts and on some deal with the Biden campaign to promote their fundraising through site links.

Curiously for an allegedly political movement they don't seem to have a newspaper/on line journal nor to sell books.

statesaver

Where is all the money BLM got ?

Have they opened school, colleges, uni, grants. Where the money at?

weldoninhio

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Thats true.
Are any other leagues in Europe still persisting with this nonsense ?

Lewis Hamilton is the hot favourite for BBC Sports Personality Of The Year.
The man is possibly one of the most hypocritical, narcissistic, virtue signalling, tax dodging, frauds in Sport.

And he's lacking an actual personality.

weldoninhio

Sudden Valley wrote: »

Lewis Hamilton is one of the most successful formula 1 drivers in history now. It is not about politics if he gets the award. He is not a fraud but I would agree with everything else you have written about him.

At some stage one of the leagues is bound to roll back on the taking of the knee. This will be be hastened by the arrival of more fans back to the stadiums.

He has by far, the fastest car in the competition. A young lad replaced him for the last race and would have won only for a mistake by the pit crew and a puncture.

weldoninhio

John Doe1 wrote: »

Some BLM inspired ridiculousness happening in the PSG match.

Romanian 4th official said Negru (Which is black in Romanian) and assistant manager's brain explodes thinking he said the other N word.

Players walk off in protest thinking they are solving racism

You'll not see that the reason the 4th official called the ref over, and the assistant manager was sent off reported, even though its on video. Webo, the black guy, was calling the ref and linos Romanian cheating gypsys. But he's black and can't be racist. :rolleyes:

ElJeffe

Funny the way this has completely dropped off the news cycle now Biden has won the election. It's like no more black people are getting shot by cops. Nobody seen that coming.

ElJeffe

weldoninhio wrote: »

You'll not see that the reason the 4th official called the ref over, and the assistant manager was sent off reported, even though its on video. Webo, the black guy, was calling the ref and linos Romanian cheating gypsys. But he's black and can't be racist. :rolleyes:

That part was conveniently left out by the majority of media outlets.

TomTomTim

ElJeffe wrote: »

That part was conveniently left out by the majority of media outlets.

Lies by omission is the go to approach for most "journalism". They tell the part that benefits them, and never report on all the parts that don't, constantly shaping the minds of the readers to their ideological advantage. It's beyond blatant, yet many still see it as some sort of affront to mention this blatant behavior of these activists who pose as journalists.

Silentcorner

TomTomTim wrote: »

Lies by omission is the go to approach for most "journalism". They tell the part that benefits them, and never report on all the parts that don't, constantly shaping the minds of the readers to their ideological advantage. It's beyond blatant, yet many still see it as some sort of affront to mention this blatant behavior of these activists who pose as journalists.

The same "journalists" that peddled the "mostly peaceful" protests codology over 5 months of some of the worst rioting American cities were subjected to in recent times?

It is a sad state of affairs that American cities had to board up their city centres on election week in fear of violence...thankfully the "right" side won and violence and destruction was avoided.

whysobecause

statesaver wrote: »

Where is all the money BLM got ?

Have they opened school, colleges, uni, grants. Where the money at?

Maybe into a swiss bank account.

MisterAnarchy

Silentcorner wrote: »

It is a sad state of affairs that American cities had to board up their city centres on election week in fear of violence...thankfully the "right" side won and violence and destruction was avoided.

Not only that the MSM were trying to insinuate that the city centres were being boarded up in case Trump supporters went on the rampage.
His far right supporters were going to take up arms and go on the rampage.
Lord Haw-Haw was a novice compared to the modern MSM.

Mic 1972

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Not only that the MSM were trying to insinuate that the city centres were being boarded up in case Trump supporters went on the rampage.
His far right supporters were going to take up arms and go on the rampage.
Lord Haw-Haw was a novice compared to the modern MSM.

People boarded up their houses in fear of BLM/antifa rioters, not Trump supporters.

MisterAnarchy

Mic 1972 wrote: »

People boarded up their houses in fear of BLM/antifa rioters, not Trump supporters.

I know that, you know it but the media tried to flip it.
Is it any wonder Trump constantly gives out about Fake News.

JJayoo

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

I know that, you know it but the media tried to flip it.
Is it any wonder Trump constantly gives out about Fake News.

Ya but Trump is a dope

Tea drinker

JJayoo wrote: »

Ya but Trump is a dope

Absolutely, but even when he is right he will be labelled as wrong, how stupid is that?

MisterAnarchy

JJayoo wrote: »

Ya but Trump is a dope

So ?
Because he is a dope its ok to tell a bag of lies is it ?
The guy doesnt do himself any favours with his behaviour but there is no doubt the media havent given him a fair shot.
The media take the worst out of everything he does.

biko

Apparently a proud boy has shot a counter protestor, antifa?
This during when antifa sprays defence spray against a trump supporter while he is backing away.

https://twitter.com/Shauna_Sowersby/status/1337881251315793921

biko

Antifa pack attacks a couple from behind.

https://twitter.com/DrewHLive/status/1337893474327203840?s=20

V8 Interceptor

I'd take the Proud Boys against Antifa all day long.