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Sweetemotion

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Police reform worked for this city.

Really?
https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/blog/top100dangerous


And there is always more to the story.
https://www.businessinsider.com/camden-new-jersey-police-disbanded-but-theres-more-to-story-2020-6?r=US&IR=T

Tell me how

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Really?
https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/blog/top100dangerous


And there is always more to the story.
https://www.businessinsider.com/camden-new-jersey-police-disbanded-but-theres-more-to-story-2020-6?r=US&IR=T

From your article.

Camden may seem like a policing success story as reported crime stats decline and the CCPD tries to take on a community-based approach to policing. I am conceding that all that may be true.

Sweetemotion

Tell me how wrote: »

From your article.

Also from the article.

But determining the transferability of the CCPD's approach should be done thoughtfully, with skepticism, and with all the facts and context.

biko

Minneapolis to spend $6.4M to hire more police officers after residents experienced longer response times and an increase in violent crimes following the defunding of their police dept.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/minneapolis-spend-64m-recruit-police-officers-75875382

kildare lad

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Police reform worked for this city.

I debunked that already for you. How come left leaning articles always seem to leave out the small print . Less police =less crime, well not in the real world . They actually ended up with more police after it .... they actually laid off the cops and rehired them under different contracts along with new officers, it's not really the image you're trying to portray about less cops , less crime


https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/06/camden-didnt-defund-the-police/


The New Jersey town executed a legal maneuver to depower its police union and bring back safe policing.
In the coming days, you will see Camden, N. J., held up as a shining example of the miraculous effects of “reimagining policing.” This supports the narrative that achieving racial justice requires us to defund the police, reallocating law enforcement dollars to more useful and compassionate social programs.

That Camden might someday become an example of good urban policy seemed laughable in 2012, when its homicide rate was 87 per 100,000 population. That’s 50 percent above the prevailing rate in Baltimore, America’s most murderous large city. Since then, however, Camden has made great strides, reducing its homicide rate almost two-thirds by last year.


How’d they do it? Step one was busting their police union by disbanding the force in 2013.

At the time, the cop cartel had pumped up average annual costs per officer (including extraordinarily generous fringe benefits) to $182,168. At that monopoly price, poor Camden could afford to employ just 175 cops, and during peak nighttime crime hours only a dozen might be on patrol.

But laying off the union cops and then rehiring many as county employees reduced costs to $99,605 per officer, enabling lots of new hires while keeping total expenditures roughly the same. Within a couple of years, Camden’s force exceeded 400 — a little over 50 cops per 10,000 residents, about triple the national average for similarly sized cities.

So Camden did not “abolish police,” as some of the more radical voices in the current debate claim, but actually employed more police — and more law enforcement. As the now-retired chief who led the transition explained, understaffing had made his city force a “triage unit going from emergency to emergency.” Staffing up enabled more proactive policing (including the use of some surveillance tools that civil libertarians consider problematic).

1800_Ladladlad

Our Lord Mayor of Dublin Hazel Chu criticizes people who say 'All Lives Matter'

“Until we have proper representation and provide equal and fair status for black people then it doesn’t matter about anyone else.”

This the mayor of Dublin who thinks she's in America.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40226924.html?type=amp&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&__twitter_impression=true

JJayoo

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Our Lord Mayor of Dublin Hazel Chu criticizes people who say 'All Lives Matter'



This the mayor of Dublin who thinks she's in America.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40226924.html?type=amp&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&__twitter_impression=true

So she is racist towards everyone who isn't black?

Dr. Bre

All lives matter

MisterAnarchy

Brentford Say Taking The Knee Is 'Not Having An Impact'

https://www.sportbible.com/football/pub-talk-brentford-say-taking-the-knee-is-not-having-an-impact-20210215

Brentford players decided against taking the knee ahead of their game with Barnsley on Sunday, explaining they no longer believe it's having an impact.

On Sunday Championship side Brentford decided they wouldn't take the knee ahead of their game with Barnsley, or going forward.

In a club statement they explained why, saying, "We have been taking a knee before games since June but, like many of our fellow players at other clubs, no longer believe that this is having an impact.

"We believe we can use our time and energies to promote racial equality in other ways.

MisterAnarchy

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Brentford Say Taking The Knee Is 'Not Having An Impact'

I'd love to know why they believed it was making an impact at all?

Kivaro

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I'd love to know why they believed it was making an impact at all?

Just a visual impact, aka the virtue signal impact.

statesaver

Those social workers don't seem to be working out for them !

https://twitter.com/MsMelChen/status/1362088376602558464

MisterAnarchy

statesaver wrote: »

Those social workers don't seem to be working out for them !

https://twitter.com/MsMelChen/status/1362088376602558464

Quelle surprise.

Cordell

“My mother would have experienced sporadic incidents of racism. Now, racism has significantly increased in Ireland.”

Hazel Chu, who was born in Dublin to Chinese parents, said: “The fact that people have come out and said ‘All Lives Matter’ - they don’t understand."

She's on to something here, only it's the opposite of what she think. Any increase in racism is because of her and her type, the kind of people that claim racism when a black armed thug is killed by the police.

MisterAnarchy

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/02/20/racist-attacks-police-officers-trebled-last-summers-black-lives/

Racist attacks on police officers almost trebled during last summer’s Black Lives Matter protests, it has emerged.

Figures seen by The Telegraph reveal there were more than 430 incidents recorded against Black and minority ethnic (BAME) officers between June and September last year, up from 150 in the previous four months.

The racially aggravated attacks, which included everything from grievous bodily harm (GBH) to harassment, took place in the wake of the killing of George Floyd by police officers in the United States in May.

But data from Scotland Yard suggests black officers who were helping to police the demonstrations were themselves the targets of racist abuse and violence.

A total of 27 officers were injured when a BLM protest turned violent in June, but there were many more BAME officers who suffered abuse and assaults at the hands of those on BLM marches.

TomTomTim

:pac:

Kivaro

Police have arrested another man in 3 other recent attacks on Asian Americans in Oakland's Chinatown. The suspect is Yayya Muslim and aged 28. Wonder will the progressive activists be marching against these attacks?
The answer may reside in this pic of the suspect. He doesn't look like a white nationalist. There are other pictures of him attacking a 91 year old man, which I obviously will not post:

stefanovich

TomTomTim wrote: »

:pac:

Obviously he's another victim of discrimination. Brutalised with false allegations.

fantaiscool

Kivaro wrote: »

Police have arrested another man in 3 other recent attacks on Asian Americans in Oakland's Chinatown. The suspect is Yayya Muslim and aged 28. Wonder will the progressive activists be marching against these attacks?
The answer may reside in this pic of the suspect. He doesn't look like a white nationalist. There are other pictures of him attacking a 91 year old man, which I obviously will not post:

It always amuses me when the same people post crimes committed by non-white people. How come you've never posted a crime committed by a white person? Do you only care about crimes when they are committed by non-white people?

statesaver

fantaiscool wrote: »

It always amuses me when the same people post crimes committed by non-white people. How come you've never posted a crime committed by a white person? Do you only care about crimes when they are committed by non-white people?

Come on now. they are blaming whites for black on asian assaults and murder. That's just fuking bullshiit.

Rodney Bathgate

Hang on a second, smart arses. For all you know this black lad may identify as a white supremacist.

fantaiscool

fantaiscool wrote: »

It always amuses me when the same people post crimes committed by non-white people. How come you've never posted a crime committed by a white person? Do you only care about crimes when they are committed by non-white people?

Well.. first off, how do you know Kivaro hasn't 'ever' posted a crime by a white person? This poster is pretty active on the CA forum, and I wouldn't be surprised if he/she had posted a white variety of reports about white people committing crimes.

Secondly, the thread title kinda gives it away.. posting crimes by black people goes with territory in discussing BLM.

Kivaro

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Well.. first off, how do you know Kivaro hasn't 'ever' posted a crime by a white person? This poster is pretty active on the CA forum, and I wouldn't be surprised if he/she had posted a white variety of reports about white people committing crimes.

Secondly, the thread title kinda gives it away.. posting crimes by black people goes with territory in discussing BLM.

Of course I've posted about white criminals, but that does not stop some from insinuating "racism" just for daring to speak about black crime. What I do find a bit disturbing is a poster being amused by a post that talks about serious attacks on Asian Americans, which incudes a 91 year-old victim that I mentioned. So no empathy or disgust for what happened to the elderly victims of these crimes; just amusement that I had the audacity to correct the false narrative by a progressive group that it was white people who were committing these crimes in the Bay Area.

BattleCorp

fantaiscool wrote: »

It always amuses me when the same people post crimes committed by non-white people. How come you've never posted a crime committed by a white person? Do you only care about crimes when they are committed by non-white people?

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

fantaiscool

Kivaro wrote: »

Of course I've posted about white criminals, but that does not stop some from insinuating "racism" just for daring to speak about black crime. What I do find a bit disturbing is a poster being amused by a post that talks about serious attacks on Asian Americans, which incudes a 91 year-old victim that I mentioned. So no empathy or disgust for what happened to the elderly victims of these crimes; just amusement that I had the audacity to correct the false narrative by a progressive group that it was white people who were committing these crimes in the Bay Area.

Well I'm not going to go through your posts but safe to say that in this thread you're only going to post crimes by non-white people as posting crimes by white people won't fit with your agenda.

It is pretty telling how people who argue against people like you don't stoop to that level.

It's always crimes by non-whites that get posted and you never see people on the other side stooping so low to try to win arguments. I think that might be indicative of the lack of empathy you are talking about? It's a transparent strategy - cherry pick crimes from non-whites and then accuse people (who would never stoop to that low level because they have normal levels of empathy), of having a lack of empathy when you get called out for it.

biko

fantaiscool wrote: »

Well I'm not going to go through your posts but safe to say that in this thread you're only going to post crimes by non-white people as posting crimes by white people won't fit with your agenda.

How about you start "Fantaiscool's White People Crime" thread?

fantaiscool

biko wrote: »

How about you start "Fantaiscool's White People Crime" thread?

Wise words, especially since you have a "Bikos non-white people crime" thread. Speaking from experience eh.

WrenBoy

TomTomTim wrote: »

:pac:

fantaiscool wrote: »

It's always crimes by non-whites that get posted and you never see people on the other side stooping so low to try to win arguments. I think that might be indicative of the lack of empathy you are talking about? It's a transparent strategy - cherry pick crimes from non-whites and then accuse people (who would never stoop to that low level because they have normal levels of empathy), of having a lack of empathy when you get called out for it.

People are literally lying and claiming that white people are responsible for specific crimes. At least what is said in this thread is actually stuff that happened.

fantaiscool

WrenBoy wrote: »

People are literally lying and claiming that white people are responsible for specific crimes. At least what is said in this thread is actually stuff that happened.

Who organized the protest and why did they organize it? Provide some supporting evidence to back up your claim, not just a picture.

nolivesmatter

fantaiscool wrote: »

Well I'm not going to go through your posts but safe to say that in this thread you're only going to post crimes by non-white people as posting crimes by white people won't fit with your agenda.

It is pretty telling how people who argue against people like you don't stoop to that level.

It's always crimes by non-whites that get posted and you never see people on the other side stooping so low to try to win arguments. I think that might be indicative of the lack of empathy you are talking about? It's a transparent strategy - cherry pick crimes from non-whites and then accuse people (who would never stoop to that low level because they have normal levels of empathy), of having a lack of empathy when you get called out for it.

You seem to be doing plenty of 'stooping' yourself coming in here casting aspersions. You seem to think you know what's going on here when it's obvious you don't.